Bug report thread - Page 42

Erithtotl · 06-02-2012, 11:51 AM

Not sure if this one has been posted:

Got a message about my player having hit in 20 straight games. The opposing manager said we don't care about the streak, as long as we win.

It then reported that I had lost 10-0. When in fact I had WON 10-0.

It mentioned that the player grounded out in the 1st, hit a 2 run double in the 3rd, struck out in the 5th, walked in the 6th, and hit an RBI double in the 8th.

pstrickert · 06-02-2012, 01:20 PM

Fixed.

bailey · 06-02-2012, 01:46 PM

My first league started ran into a problem: the playoffs will never end.

1) Create 3 major leagues of 8 teams each.
2) Associate them for playoffs only.
3) Permit league champion and 3 wildcards each league to qualify
4) Seeding based on %, and wildcards seeded lowest.
5) sim season
6) game recognizes only 1st round, top 2 in each league only
7) play until playoffs end continues on and on and on......

Edit: In my 2nd league I enabled customized playoffs for each league AND identically for the association and got my 12 team playoff.

Edit: I'm still having trouble with this. Teams play 2 useless rounds of playoffs in each league then start the association playoff.

awick · 06-03-2012, 02:02 PM

I opened a ticket on this a few days ago but have had no response so decided to report my problem here too.

I am unable to save my game AFTER passing though the new year. I have the game saved and backed up on December 31 and I am able to play forward in time as much as I want, but after January 1 I get a fatal database error when I save or during the save step when I exit the game. After the error, I am able to open the game and it will restore to the last valid save which is December 31.

When I play forward in time, everything looks normal to me. I just can't save the progress.

This is a fictional league imported from OOTP12. The problem does not occur in other game universes I have created.

jmknpk2 · 06-03-2012, 02:14 PM

I like to sim 35 years to build up a history in my fictional baseball league. With a manager named "History Maker".

Then I add a new human manager and take over a team as him.

I have done this a few times and every time, I am bothered because there are 100s (haven't really counted them, but way too many) of offers to the same manager or coach. I had hoped they would disappear after a day or two, but I needed to go through and withdraw the offers manually. In one league up to three personnel were offered many contracts.

I have backups if you'd like an upload.

jmknpk2 · 06-03-2012, 02:22 PM

I like to sim 35 years to build up a history in my fictional baseball league. With a manager named "History Maker".

Then I add a new human manager and take over a team as him.

Problem: When I add a new human manager and assign him to a team, the introductory email announcing the new GM incorrectly lists the name of the prior human commissioner ("History Maker" in my case).

In all other respects, the human manager seems to have been created properly.

If I create the human manager without assigning him to a team, then later, after he has been created, assign him to a team, everything turns out fine.

I have double checked and made sure I hit return when entering the new human manager name in this fashion.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 06-03-2012, 09:28 PM

Scoring bug that goes to the unearned run issue I've mentioned several times:

Two out, runners on first and second. (To be more precise, the sequence for the first four hitters of the inning was: fly out, single, single, fly out.) There is a passed ball, sending the runners to second and third. Then the batter hits a home run.

Correct scoring: three earned runs, since it makes no difference whether the runs scored from first and second or from second and third.

OOTP scoring: one earned run.

Notice too that this is not one of those unearned run problems that requires waiting until the end of the inning to determine. (I've been told not to bother with those, since the powers that be won't be fixing them for OOTP13.) You can tell all three of these runs are earned the moment they cross the plate.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 06-03-2012, 09:48 PM

I'm not sure if this is where we're supposed to post pbp bugs, but just in case, here's one I just saw:

[Pitcher's name] into the windup...
the 2-0 pitch...
swung on...
dinked into the outfield...
and it falls in front of [Second baseman's name]...
for a base hit.
[Center fielder's name] leans down to pick it up...
but misses it!
It went right under his glove!
[Batter's name] ends up at second base.

What on earth is the second baseman doing in all of this? If the ball fell in front of the second baseman, it'd be a ground out. I suppose this could be one of those plays where the ball falls between the second baseman and the center fielder ("dinked into the outfield" suggests that it is), but if so that needs to be made clear, and in any event I wouldn't describe the ball as falling "in front of" the second baseman if he's dashing into the outfield to try to make the play. Maybe over his shoulder, or he's lost the ball in the sun, or whatever, but not this.

pstrickert · 06-03-2012, 09:57 PM

Fixed.

gbrooking · 06-05-2012, 10:35 PM

I'm playing 2012 Rangers. Josh Hamilton was injured in early June. He came off the DL after the League Division Series. He is listed on my playoff eligible roster. IN BETWEEN the LDS and the LCS, I removed a player from the 25-man playoff roster and tried to move Hamilton from the "playoff eligible roster" to the playoff roster, and get an error message stating he is either ineligible or the roster is full. However, the roster only has 24 players.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 06-06-2012, 02:31 PM

RBI scoring bug:

Runner at second, one out. Batter hits a grounder to second, the second baseman airmails the throw, batter ends up at second, runner scores. The ball location was 4M, so the second baseman had to range a little.

In reality, there are two ways to score this from the batter's perspective: infield hit with a throwing error or ground out with a two-base throwing error. (The former is more likely on difficult plays, and one of the things that annoys me is that the game ALWAYS scores these scoring errors as the latter. But that's distinct from this bug.)

Either way, the batter will not get an RBI for the runner who scored from second, since the official scorer will look at what would have happened and credit the batter accordingly. If it had been an infield hit, the runner would be on third. If it had been a ground out, the runner would be on third. Thus, no RBI.

OOTP scores this as: ground out, two-base throwing error, RBI for the batter.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 06-06-2012, 02:57 PM

Earned run bug:

Runner on second, no outs. Batter singles to right. Runner goes home, throw goes to home. Right fielder airmails the throw. Runner scores, batter ends up on second.

In real life, this is always - 100% of the time - an earned run, and in most cases it wouldn't be an error, since there's nothing unusual about a batter advancing to second on a throw home. (There is some discretion there for the official scorer, though, because sometimes it's clear that the batter would not have advanced but for the bad throw.) Because throwing a runner out at home is a difficult do-or-die play, they don't give errors for failing to get the runner at home - only for allowing other runners to advance.

The game scored this an unearned run because of the error.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 06-06-2012, 04:05 PM

Bottom of the 11th inning, runners at first and second, two out.

Single to left field, then the left fielder flubs the pickup.

The game gives the left fielder an error, credits the batter with a single, and the game is over. All well and good, except...

The batter was given an RBI. Now either the run would have scored regardless of the error, in which case there should be (a) an earned run, (b) no error and (c) an RBI, since we don't care about the trailing runners and the lead runner would have scored anyway, or else the run would not have scored but for the error, in which case there should be (a) no earned run, (b) an error and (c) no RBI. Thus, the game's scoring was internally inconsistent on this play.

rjl518 · 06-07-2012, 08:59 AM

found a bug...the national league won the all star game and the report says a loss and steven liddle was on the national league

Pedro · 06-07-2012, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedro

Hi folks,

First time player here, and congrats on a fantastic game.

Has anyone run into a bug where the starting rotation gets all mixed up? This starts to happen in season two or three for me. First time round, the game was starting my #1 pitcher two days in a row at the start of season 2. After a while he had started 19 games to everyone else's 9.

Second time around was with a new game, and it happened at the start of season #3. On opening day it started my #2 guy, and from then on, using strict 5 day rotation, it jumped around from man to man randomly. That wasn't too bad, as it still mostly picked each of the five guys before starting again, but after a few pitching changes it started starting a middle reliever for 4 innings on consecutive days, ignoring my 5 starter completely etc. hugely frustrating.

Changing to a most-rested setting did not help.

This is in a quick start game.

Can I do anything about this? Play with Commissioner mode turned on and force the correct starter?

Thanks in advance!

Oops, please ignore this one. I had 7-day lineups still set after spring training.

Bryan Swartz · 06-08-2012, 10:20 AM

A search did not turn up this being posted already:

In league creation, using historical transactions does not 'stick'. That is, regardless of whether you check it there, it will be 'off' after the league is created. I've tried this multiple different ways and it's always the same.

pstrickert · 06-08-2012, 01:41 PM

You may have to upload your files, Bryan.

How to FTP files to OOTP Developments - Kayako eSupport Help Desk Software

Eckstein 4 Prez · 06-08-2012, 06:58 PM

PBP error:

The play was a popup to shallow right (9LS) caught by the first baseman. The pbp:

[Batter] swings...
skied high...
to shallow left field, down the line...
measuring it, [First Baseman]...
and he makes the play.

Bryan Swartz · 06-08-2012, 10:59 PM

Thanks pstrickert, but I don't know what to upload. Uploading an existing league/universe would be simple enough of course, but I'm talking about the initial league creation when first setting one up. What could I upload that would be useful?

Thanks

pstrickert · 06-08-2012, 11:11 PM

The problem is that I've never had this problem, nor have I ever heard of anyone else reporting this problem. Just go ahead and set up the game. Then send the files to the FTP site. If Markus needs anything else, he can let you know. Be sure to open a support ticket and indicate the name of the .zip file that you uploaded. Beyond that, I don't know what to tell you.

06-02-2012, 01:46 PM	#823
bailey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,315	My first league started ran into a problem: the playoffs will never end. 1) Create 3 major leagues of 8 teams each. 2) Associate them for playoffs only. 3) Permit league champion and 3 wildcards each league to qualify 4) Seeding based on %, and wildcards seeded lowest. 5) sim season 6) game recognizes only 1st round, top 2 in each league only 7) play until playoffs end continues on and on and on...... Edit: In my 2nd league I enabled customized playoffs for each league AND identically for the association and got my 12 team playoff. Edit: I'm still having trouble with this. Teams play 2 useless rounds of playoffs in each league then start the association playoff. Last edited by bailey; 06-02-2012 at 02:45 PM. Reason: solution?

06-03-2012, 02:02 PM	#824
awick Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Lansing, NY Posts: 313	OOTP Version of Ground Hog's Day I opened a ticket on this a few days ago but have had no response so decided to report my problem here too. I am unable to save my game AFTER passing though the new year. I have the game saved and backed up on December 31 and I am able to play forward in time as much as I want, but after January 1 I get a fatal database error when I save or during the save step when I exit the game. After the error, I am able to open the game and it will restore to the last valid save which is December 31. When I play forward in time, everything looks normal to me. I just can't save the progress. This is a fictional league imported from OOTP12. The problem does not occur in other game universes I have created.

06-03-2012, 02:14 PM	#825
jmknpk2 All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 982	100s of Pending Personnel offers to the same guy I like to sim 35 years to build up a history in my fictional baseball league. With a manager named "History Maker". Then I add a new human manager and take over a team as him. I have done this a few times and every time, I am bothered because there are 100s (haven't really counted them, but way too many) of offers to the same manager or coach. I had hoped they would disappear after a day or two, but I needed to go through and withdraw the offers manually. In one league up to three personnel were offered many contracts. I have backups if you'd like an upload.

06-03-2012, 02:22 PM	#826
jmknpk2 All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 982	Wrong human manager name in Introductory email I like to sim 35 years to build up a history in my fictional baseball league. With a manager named "History Maker". Then I add a new human manager and take over a team as him. Problem: When I add a new human manager and assign him to a team, the introductory email announcing the new GM incorrectly lists the name of the prior human commissioner ("History Maker" in my case). In all other respects, the human manager seems to have been created properly. If I create the human manager without assigning him to a team, then later, after he has been created, assign him to a team, everything turns out fine. I have double checked and made sure I hit return when entering the new human manager name in this fashion.

06-03-2012, 09:28 PM	#827
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,357	Scoring bug that goes to the unearned run issue I've mentioned several times: Two out, runners on first and second. (To be more precise, the sequence for the first four hitters of the inning was: fly out, single, single, fly out.) There is a passed ball, sending the runners to second and third. Then the batter hits a home run. Correct scoring: three earned runs, since it makes no difference whether the runs scored from first and second or from second and third. OOTP scoring: one earned run. Notice too that this is not one of those unearned run problems that requires waiting until the end of the inning to determine. (I've been told not to bother with those, since the powers that be won't be fixing them for OOTP13.) You can tell all three of these runs are earned the moment they cross the plate. __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

06-02-2012, 11:51 AM	#821
Erithtotl Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 330	Not sure if this one has been posted: Got a message about my player having hit in 20 straight games. The opposing manager said we don't care about the streak, as long as we win. It then reported that I had lost 10-0. When in fact I had WON 10-0. It mentioned that the player grounded out in the 1st, hit a 2 run double in the 3rd, struck out in the 5th, walked in the 6th, and hit an RBI double in the 8th.

06-02-2012, 01:20 PM	#822
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,386	Fixed.

06-03-2012, 09:48 PM	#828
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,357	I'm not sure if this is where we're supposed to post pbp bugs, but just in case, here's one I just saw: [Pitcher's name] into the windup... the 2-0 pitch... swung on... dinked into the outfield... and it falls in front of [Second baseman's name]... for a base hit. [Center fielder's name] leans down to pick it up... but misses it! It went right under his glove! [Batter's name] ends up at second base. What on earth is the second baseman doing in all of this? If the ball fell in front of the second baseman, it'd be a ground out. I suppose this could be one of those plays where the ball falls between the second baseman and the center fielder ("dinked into the outfield" suggests that it is), but if so that needs to be made clear, and in any event I wouldn't describe the ball as falling "in front of" the second baseman if he's dashing into the outfield to try to make the play. Maybe over his shoulder, or he's lost the ball in the sun, or whatever, but not this. __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

06-03-2012, 09:57 PM	#829
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,386	Fixed.

06-05-2012, 10:35 PM	#830
gbrooking Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 108	Postseason Roster Bug I'm playing 2012 Rangers. Josh Hamilton was injured in early June. He came off the DL after the League Division Series. He is listed on my playoff eligible roster. IN BETWEEN the LDS and the LCS, I removed a player from the 25-man playoff roster and tried to move Hamilton from the "playoff eligible roster" to the playoff roster, and get an error message stating he is either ineligible or the roster is full. However, the roster only has 24 players.

06-06-2012, 02:31 PM	#831
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,357	RBI scoring bug: Runner at second, one out. Batter hits a grounder to second, the second baseman airmails the throw, batter ends up at second, runner scores. The ball location was 4M, so the second baseman had to range a little. In reality, there are two ways to score this from the batter's perspective: infield hit with a throwing error or ground out with a two-base throwing error. (The former is more likely on difficult plays, and one of the things that annoys me is that the game ALWAYS scores these scoring errors as the latter. But that's distinct from this bug.) Either way, the batter will not get an RBI for the runner who scored from second, since the official scorer will look at what would have happened and credit the batter accordingly. If it had been an infield hit, the runner would be on third. If it had been a ground out, the runner would be on third. Thus, no RBI. OOTP scores this as: ground out, two-base throwing error, RBI for the batter. __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

06-06-2012, 02:57 PM	#832
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,357	Earned run bug: Runner on second, no outs. Batter singles to right. Runner goes home, throw goes to home. Right fielder airmails the throw. Runner scores, batter ends up on second. In real life, this is always - 100% of the time - an earned run, and in most cases it wouldn't be an error, since there's nothing unusual about a batter advancing to second on a throw home. (There is some discretion there for the official scorer, though, because sometimes it's clear that the batter would not have advanced but for the bad throw.) Because throwing a runner out at home is a difficult do-or-die play, they don't give errors for failing to get the runner at home - only for allowing other runners to advance. The game scored this an unearned run because of the error. __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

06-06-2012, 04:05 PM	#833
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,357	Bottom of the 11th inning, runners at first and second, two out. Single to left field, then the left fielder flubs the pickup. The game gives the left fielder an error, credits the batter with a single, and the game is over. All well and good, except... The batter was given an RBI. Now either the run would have scored regardless of the error, in which case there should be (a) an earned run, (b) no error and (c) an RBI, since we don't care about the trailing runners and the lead runner would have scored anyway, or else the run would not have scored but for the error, in which case there should be (a) no earned run, (b) an error and (c) no RBI. Thus, the game's scoring was internally inconsistent on this play. __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

06-07-2012, 08:59 AM	#834
rjl518 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Born in Shea Stadium, lives in LoanDepot Park. Posts: 6,242	it was a win found a bug...the national league won the all star game and the report says a loss and steven liddle was on the national league Attached Images __________________ My Threads: MLB Project 32 by SFGiants58 "Colon looking for his 1st hit of the year and he DRIVES ONE! Deep left field! Back goes Upton! Back near the wall! ITS OUTTA HERE!!! Bartolo has done it!!! THE IMPOSSIBLE HAS HAPPENED!!! This is one of the great moments in the history of baseball! Bartolo Colon has gone deep!" ---Gary Cohen. (May 7, 2016) (Petco Park) NYM 6 @ SD 3

06-08-2012, 10:20 AM	#836
Bryan Swartz Major Leagues Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 450	A search did not turn up this being posted already: In league creation, using historical transactions does not 'stick'. That is, regardless of whether you check it there, it will be 'off' after the league is created. I've tried this multiple different ways and it's always the same.

06-08-2012, 01:41 PM	#837
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,386	You may have to upload your files, Bryan. How to FTP files to OOTP Developments - Kayako eSupport Help Desk Software

06-08-2012, 06:58 PM	#838
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,357	PBP error: The play was a popup to shallow right (9LS) caught by the first baseman. The pbp: [Batter] swings... skied high... to shallow left field, down the line... measuring it, [First Baseman]... and he makes the play. __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

06-08-2012, 10:59 PM	#839
Bryan Swartz Major Leagues Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 450	Thanks pstrickert, but I don't know what to upload. Uploading an existing league/universe would be simple enough of course, but I'm talking about the initial league creation when first setting one up. What could I upload that would be useful? Thanks

06-08-2012, 11:11 PM	#840
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,386	The problem is that I've never had this problem, nor have I ever heard of anyone else reporting this problem. Just go ahead and set up the game. Then send the files to the FTP site. If Markus needs anything else, he can let you know. Be sure to open a support ticket and indicate the name of the .zip file that you uploaded. Beyond that, I don't know what to tell you.