Bug report thread - Page 43

Eckstein 4 Prez · 06-09-2012, 03:23 AM

Another pbp error, this one on an inning-ending fly out:

The stretch, the pitch...
swung on...
hit in the air to center...
and [Center Fielder] gloves it...
two outs.
That retires the side...

pstrickert · 06-09-2012, 11:23 AM

Fixed.

awick · 06-09-2012, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awick

I opened a ticket on this a few days ago but have had no response so decided to report my problem here too.

I am unable to save my game AFTER passing though the new year. I have the game saved and backed up on December 31 and I am able to play forward in time as much as I want, but after January 1 I get a fatal database error when I save or during the save step when I exit the game. After the error, I am able to open the game and it will restore to the last valid save which is December 31.

When I play forward in time, everything looks normal to me. I just can't save the progress.

This is a fictional league imported from OOTP12. The problem does not occur in other game universes I have created.

I've still heard nothing about this problem, either here or through my trouble ticket. Should I just be patient? Should I upload files? Should I give up?

pstrickert · 06-09-2012, 05:35 PM

It has been logged in the bug report database. Markus will look at it eventually (when, is anyone's guess).

endgame · 06-09-2012, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awick

I've still heard nothing about this problem, either here or through my trouble ticket. Should I just be patient? Should I upload files? Should I give up?

Were league files requested on this issue? If they weren't, they should have been, and if you haven't, please upload your zipped .dat files for that league as it exists before the problem occurs.

awick · 06-09-2012, 10:20 PM

endgame, thanks for the reply. I just uploaded the dat files from my league, the file name is art_newmlb.zip.

As noted in the trouble ticket, these are the dat files as of December 31, 2027 in my game. My problem is that I cannot save the game if I turn the calendar forward to January 1.

Thanks again.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 06-09-2012, 10:59 PM

PBP error:

(Start of top of the ninth inning, with visiting team (Detroit Wolverines) trailing.)

[Batter] hopes to kick-start a rally...
for the Wolverines...
here in the top of the ninth...
he's gone 1 for 3 at the plate.
[Pitcher] throwing to [Batter]...
here it is...
[Batter] swings...
stroked to left --
a base hit for [Batter].
And the Detroit will not go down...
without a fight.

(needs to either be 'Detroit' or 'the Wolverines.')

bdolan33 · 06-10-2012, 03:57 AM

I cant save my game. It shows up in the save files, and it lets me click save game, but when I load after advancing a few days, it just comes up the most current day I was at.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 06-10-2012, 12:32 PM

A particularly egregious instance of the earned run bug:

Two out, nobody on. Batter #1 hits a triple. Batter #2 hits a single. There can be no more straightforward instance of a run being earned. Yet this run was scored as unearned. Why?

Because the outfielder flubbed the pickup, allowing Batter #2 to go from first to second. What this tells me is that the game engine, at the end of the play, adds up the number of errors and the number of outs, and if it gets to three all runs that scored on that play and on any subsequent play are going to be unearned.

To put it mildly, that's not how it works in real life, and it leads to ridiculous situations like this one, where a triple followed by a single somehow constitutes an unearned run.

swampdragon · 06-11-2012, 01:16 PM

Scoring bug:

Leadoff hitter doubles. Pitcher bunts, and third baseman throws to first. Now that makes the play a successful sacrifice, and no time at bat should be charged.

But the third baseman's throw was wild, and the runner scored. Because the throw was wild, the pitcher was charged with a time at bat. Then he got an RBI when the runner scored on the wild throw. Two scoring errors on the same play.

swampdragon · 06-11-2012, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eckstein 4 Prez

A particularly egregious instance of the earned run bug:

Two out, nobody on. Batter #1 hits a triple. Batter #2 hits a single. There can be no more straightforward instance of a run being earned. Yet this run was scored as unearned. Why?

Because the outfielder flubbed the pickup, allowing Batter #2 to go from first to second. What this tells me is that the game engine, at the end of the play, adds up the number of errors and the number of outs, and if it gets to three all runs that scored on that play and on any subsequent play are going to be unearned.

To put it mildly, that's not how it works in real life, and it leads to ridiculous situations like this one, where a triple followed by a single somehow constitutes an unearned run.

I posted this one or its cousin earlier. Hit + error results are treated as pure errors when deciding whether a run should be earned. The cumulative effect of these scoring mistakes is to take more than a run per game off the proper ERAs of 1870s pitchers.

Hrbek14 · 06-11-2012, 08:55 PM

I looked through the thread and didn't see these issues, so I'll post them here. Both have to do with the PBP.

First, while playing an MLB quickstart (several years into the future), I noticed that some of my players were described as having the wrong batting average in the PBP. I wasn't sure why that was, but then I had a player who had only been in the majors for a week or two come up to bat. It had his average wrong, and it also said that he's hit 11 HR this year. I checked his minor league stats, and sure enough, he had 11 HR in the minor leagues. I assume, therefore, the reason for the inaccurate batting average is that it is combining major/minor league stats (and yes, the BA it mentioned was in between his major and minor league averages). I'm not sure if this is intentional, but that would be an odd thing to say in play by play without specifically stating that it included minor league stats.

The second item is that I am playing the Twins and I traded for Evan Longoria in the middle of the season. When I played the Rays later in the year, the PBP said that he had hit 9 HRs against the Rays. I checked and he hadn't hit any against the Rays, but he had hit 9 HRs before the trade while he was playing for the Rays.

pstrickert · 06-11-2012, 09:11 PM

1. Logged already.

2. Per Markus: "Can't fix."

dangarion · 06-11-2012, 09:20 PM

So when are the bugs and tickets that have been submitted going to be responded to?

I've got a ticket submitted on 4/28/12 for secure FTP issues
OOTP Developments - Kayako eSupport Help Desk Software

As well as one from 5/5/12 for game generated MySQL
OOTP Developments - Kayako eSupport Help Desk Software

No responses or acknowledgements and it's been over a month.

pstrickert · 06-11-2012, 09:32 PM

Your guess is as good as mine.

BabyLemonade · 06-12-2012, 04:27 AM

Hello to everyone...First time yesterday my game (Quickstart MLB- 6mths into the season) and the game crashed...In my "home" page screen what ever i try to click (a players name or to continue a day) the game stops and this message appears :

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: ootp13.exe
Application Version: 13.3.9.0
Application Timestamp: 4f99241c
Fault Module Name: ootp13.exe
Fault Module Version: 13.3.9.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 4f99241c
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 00540a4e
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.768.3
Locale ID: 1032
Additional Information 1: 0a9e
Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional Information 3: 0a9e
Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

what i should notice is that i had a power failure while i was closing my pc half an hour before this appeared...But OOTP was closed so i do not see any connection...

I play each game and i would like to continue this dynasty but seems seriously corrupted...Any ideas please ???
Another saved game (historical) seems to be working fine, though i did not had the time to test it thoroughly...

Thanks.

rjcayea · 06-12-2012, 07:07 PM

I couldn't find this bug being reported so I thought I would report it. In all my playoff games, all my starting pitchers are exhausted after the first pitch. In my two pitchers I have attached as examples, both pitchers started out as:
pitcher 1 = 100% energy
pitcher 2 = 88% energy

You can see that they have thrown only two and one pitches, respectively and are exhausted.

Please fix.

Thanks a bunch for a great game!

pstrickert · 06-12-2012, 07:18 PM

Probably what you need to know: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...79-post11.html

rjcayea · 06-12-2012, 10:19 PM

I don't see that as the answer, pstrickert. One. This doesn't happen in the regular season and hasn't until my playoffs. Two. My pitchers start at 100% for first example picture and 88% and after two pitches, and one pitch respectively, both pitchers are listed as exhausted. This is not quality feedback about my pitcher and must be a bug.

pstrickert · 06-12-2012, 10:36 PM

Thanks for the clarification. I'll log it.

06-09-2012, 03:23 AM	#841
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,358	Another pbp error, this one on an inning-ending fly out: The stretch, the pitch... swung on... hit in the air to center... and [Center Fielder] gloves it... two outs. That retires the side... __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

06-09-2012, 10:59 PM	#847
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,358	PBP error: (Start of top of the ninth inning, with visiting team (Detroit Wolverines) trailing.) [Batter] hopes to kick-start a rally... for the Wolverines... here in the top of the ninth... he's gone 1 for 3 at the plate. [Pitcher] throwing to [Batter]... here it is... [Batter] swings... stroked to left -- a base hit for [Batter]. And the Detroit will not go down... without a fight. (needs to either be 'Detroit' or 'the Wolverines.') __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

06-10-2012, 12:32 PM	#849
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,358	A particularly egregious instance of the earned run bug: Two out, nobody on. Batter #1 hits a triple. Batter #2 hits a single. There can be no more straightforward instance of a run being earned. Yet this run was scored as unearned. Why? Because the outfielder flubbed the pickup, allowing Batter #2 to go from first to second. What this tells me is that the game engine, at the end of the play, adds up the number of errors and the number of outs, and if it gets to three all runs that scored on that play and on any subsequent play are going to be unearned. To put it mildly, that's not how it works in real life, and it leads to ridiculous situations like this one, where a triple followed by a single somehow constitutes an unearned run. __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

06-11-2012, 01:16 PM	#850
swampdragon Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 2,509	Scoring bug: Leadoff hitter doubles. Pitcher bunts, and third baseman throws to first. Now that makes the play a successful sacrifice, and no time at bat should be charged. But the third baseman's throw was wild, and the runner scored. Because the throw was wild, the pitcher was charged with a time at bat. Then he got an RBI when the runner scored on the wild throw. Two scoring errors on the same play. __________________ “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies." -- C.S. Lewis

06-11-2012, 09:20 PM	#854
dangarion All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 569	So when are the bugs and tickets that have been submitted going to be responded to? I've got a ticket submitted on 4/28/12 for secure FTP issues OOTP Developments - Kayako eSupport Help Desk Software As well as one from 5/5/12 for game generated MySQL OOTP Developments - Kayako eSupport Help Desk Software No responses or acknowledgements and it's been over a month. __________________ DanGarion GM - Los Angeles Dodgers The Peanuts and Cracker Jack Baseball League PCJBL!

06-09-2012, 11:23 AM	#842
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,469	Fixed.

06-09-2012, 05:35 PM	#844
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,469	It has been logged in the bug report database. Markus will look at it eventually (when, is anyone's guess).

06-09-2012, 10:20 PM	#846
awick Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Lansing, NY Posts: 313	endgame, thanks for the reply. I just uploaded the dat files from my league, the file name is art_newmlb.zip. As noted in the trouble ticket, these are the dat files as of December 31, 2027 in my game. My problem is that I cannot save the game if I turn the calendar forward to January 1. Thanks again.

06-10-2012, 03:57 AM	#848
bdolan33 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 11	I cant save my game. It shows up in the save files, and it lets me click save game, but when I load after advancing a few days, it just comes up the most current day I was at.

06-11-2012, 08:55 PM	#852
Hrbek14 Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 54	I looked through the thread and didn't see these issues, so I'll post them here. Both have to do with the PBP. First, while playing an MLB quickstart (several years into the future), I noticed that some of my players were described as having the wrong batting average in the PBP. I wasn't sure why that was, but then I had a player who had only been in the majors for a week or two come up to bat. It had his average wrong, and it also said that he's hit 11 HR this year. I checked his minor league stats, and sure enough, he had 11 HR in the minor leagues. I assume, therefore, the reason for the inaccurate batting average is that it is combining major/minor league stats (and yes, the BA it mentioned was in between his major and minor league averages). I'm not sure if this is intentional, but that would be an odd thing to say in play by play without specifically stating that it included minor league stats. The second item is that I am playing the Twins and I traded for Evan Longoria in the middle of the season. When I played the Rays later in the year, the PBP said that he had hit 9 HRs against the Rays. I checked and he hadn't hit any against the Rays, but he had hit 9 HRs before the trade while he was playing for the Rays.

06-11-2012, 09:11 PM	#853
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,469	1. Logged already. 2. Per Markus: "Can't fix."

06-11-2012, 09:32 PM	#855
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,469	Your guess is as good as mine.

06-12-2012, 04:27 AM	#856
BabyLemonade Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: in an island,Greece Posts: 180	Game stop working.. Hello to everyone...First time yesterday my game (Quickstart MLB- 6mths into the season) and the game crashed...In my "home" page screen what ever i try to click (a players name or to continue a day) the game stops and this message appears : Problem signature: Problem Event Name: APPCRASH Application Name: ootp13.exe Application Version: 13.3.9.0 Application Timestamp: 4f99241c Fault Module Name: ootp13.exe Fault Module Version: 13.3.9.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 4f99241c Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Offset: 00540a4e OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.768.3 Locale ID: 1032 Additional Information 1: 0a9e Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 Additional Information 3: 0a9e Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 what i should notice is that i had a power failure while i was closing my pc half an hour before this appeared...But OOTP was closed so i do not see any connection... I play each game and i would like to continue this dynasty but seems seriously corrupted...Any ideas please ??? Another saved game (historical) seems to be working fine, though i did not had the time to test it thoroughly... Thanks. __________________ "Kids are always chasing rainbows, but baseball is a world where you can catch them." - Johnny Vander Meer

06-12-2012, 07:07 PM	#857
rjcayea Bat Boy Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 3	Pitcher exhausted after one pitch I couldn't find this bug being reported so I thought I would report it. In all my playoff games, all my starting pitchers are exhausted after the first pitch. In my two pitchers I have attached as examples, both pitchers started out as: pitcher 1 = 100% energy pitcher 2 = 88% energy You can see that they have thrown only two and one pitches, respectively and are exhausted. Please fix. Thanks a bunch for a great game! Attached Images

06-12-2012, 07:18 PM	#858
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,469	Probably what you need to know: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...79-post11.html

06-12-2012, 10:19 PM	#859
rjcayea Bat Boy Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 3	I don't see that as the answer, pstrickert. One. This doesn't happen in the regular season and hasn't until my playoffs. Two. My pitchers start at 100% for first example picture and 88% and after two pitches, and one pitch respectively, both pitchers are listed as exhausted. This is not quality feedback about my pitcher and must be a bug.

06-12-2012, 10:36 PM	#860
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,469	Thanks for the clarification. I'll log it.