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1964 3BL / 2BL / 1BL All-Stars
Players of note among this year's AtHoL MiLB All-Star squads:
3BL (AAA) Parks Conference
Lewis Conference
HR Derby winner Juan Garay ASG result Parks Conference 6, Lewis Conference 2 ASG MVP Eric Hosmer (Syracuse) 2BL (AA) Baldwin Conference
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HR Derby winner Kaleb Rice ASG result Baldwin Conference 7, Morrison Conference 5 ASG MVP Tommy Neill (Wichita Falls) 1BL (A) Bobby Conference
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HR Derby winner Ken Jaworski ASG result Bobby Conference 5, Jack Conference 2 ASG MVP Fred Kendall (Salinas) NB Players marked in this colour are fictionals. |
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Red Sky at Night - 1964 Midseason Report
![]() Ouch. What a horror show of a season. Worst thing about it is that I simply have no idea why it is happening or how to make it stop - it is almost as if I am stuck in an abusive relationship. ![]() ![]() Yes, you are reading that correctly - it says 7-18. BATS ![]() While you look at these metrics and most likely see nothing jumping out at you as signs of trauma, let me assure you - if that ungodly record leaves you in any doubt - it has been traumatic watching this group. Just no spark or pop from a lineup that is built to have bucketloads of both. Hard to reconcile this with the squad from last year. And, sad to say, it is the Babe funking up the joint worse than anyone. He flew out of the blocks in April but has hit 232 and 197 in the two months since with a combined 7 HR and 21 RBI. Were it not for Vlad heading in the opposite direction, we might not have won a game, although both O'Neill and Ripken have done all they can to get us moving. Frisch is on his way back to Seattle after a short (all we could spare him for) rehab at AAA, and I have everything crossed that this will precipitate some more lively proceedings. BALLS ![]() It gets no better here, with Smoltz and Rijo's putrid months setting the tone. Smoltz has just been wrong all year and his WHIP sits only a smidge below an unfathomable 2.00. Pedro is yet to record a win for us but hasn't been quite as bad. We call Sonny Gray up and replace Donaldson in the spin with him, and also grab Bob Lemon off the WW and fling Kimbrel and his 7.83 ERA over to Rochester. The proverbial shuffling of deckchairs on the post-iceberg Titanic, or so it feels. GLOVES ![]() The return of Frisch after his long absence will allow Dandridge to go back to his roving IF commission from last season and Reddick will go to AAA with backup C McCann staying put for now. While our ZR is in the black and our other defensive metrics not too bad, it is indicative of the bad headspace this group has fallen into that we keep making our errors at key moments and so they tend to cost us a bunch. WINGS ![]() ![]() ![]() While it isn't being reflected in the Prospects list, we're seeing some encouraging signs from our young guns - Matt Williams, Yasiel Puig and Adrian Gonzalez in particular. The three of them are up to AA ball now, while I'm also liking what I am seeing from both Brendan Morrow and Doc Cramer at AAA Rochester. POCKETS The boss, while certainly expressing his displeasure at our woefulness, didn't castigate me quite as vehemently as I was braced for in his midpoint review. That said, I wouldn't like things to stay how they are - I'm not sure I'll be back next year if they do. We have re-upped on Guerrero, Petey, Brady Anderson and Jose Rijo long-term, along with Owner Goal Travis Jackson for 2 years and a few others for next year. Sonny Gray remains among those still on the lam next year and we'll see what he is looking for $$-wise before contemplating any further commitment there. I have screenshot our commitments, below. ![]() ![]() The thing is that, with our rivals also struggling we remain a strong hope of playoff action. Providing, that is, we start playing like we belong and deserve to be there. If signs of a turnaround aren't imminent then I am likely to make a rash decision or three. Desperate times yada, yada, yada. Last edited by luckymann; 06-12-2023 at 02:16 AM. |
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Prospect Pipeline / Systems Report
The updated version sees a bunch of fictionals at the top. It might take a while for things in this regard to skew back more evenly, because it seems like too much weight is being given to these IAFA and Scouting Discovery types vs the up-and-coming historical players.
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News from Around the Horn: Trucks on Fire
![]() ![]() This is Virgil's first no-no in the AtHoL. IRL, he had quite the year in 1952 - throwing the 127th no-hitter in MLB history on May 15 against Washington while playing for Detroit, then throwing the 129th just a couple months later. Perhaps even more astounding is the fact that his record after this second one stood at 5-15! The Mark Leiter jr in this universe might know what he was going through. ![]() ![]() |
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(Hopefully) All the Right Moves
Some may see these moves as foolish given we are finally putting together a run of decent form on the field. I guess only time will tell, but I feel they make us a better club right now and cost us little-to-nothing moving forward.
First off, we cut bait on Realmuto, who has been a stone cold 203/257/335 bust. We package him up with another genius offseason add in the sub-Mendoza-dwelling Curt Welch and some farm fluff for Tim McCarver. ![]() With the C upgrade being an Owner Goal for this season and a few of the other OGs also in the red, I have been for a while now feeling compelled to at least try something. This is the upshot. I think McCarver is a good guy for us at least through his TC years (which end in '66). ![]() ![]() With no viable options in the wings, that leaves us needing a CF for the soft half of the platoon with Anderson. Fan Interest is also on the Boss's radar and so I want to offset any potential hit (which never eventuated) with a rental who has good popularity. Torii Hunter is my first choice but he knocks us back with his NTC, so we go with Jesse Barfield instead. ![]() ![]() ![]() Each of the noobs is having a fine season and we obviously hope that can continue. Neither are particularly enamoured of the move. Fair play, especially for Barfield, given both were on contending clubs and we remain a handful of games adrift. With their help, we still have plenty of time to change that. Last edited by luckymann; 05-05-2023 at 11:35 PM. |
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1964 All-Star / Prospects Parade
Just mixing this all up a bit with the new format.
AtHoL ALL-STAR GAME
We get three in the squad, with just The Babe as a starter. Lincoln Association All-Stars (*= Starters) SP Jack Chesbro (KANS) - 14-7, 2.23 ERA, 234.0 IP, 1.00 WHIP, 4.3 K/9, 6.2 WAR SP Willie Foster (SLCB) - 14-10, 2.42 ERA, 241.2 IP, 1.15 WHIP, 5.6 K/9, 5.4 WAR SP Walter Johnson (CHIC)* - 20-8, 2.07 ERA, 243.1 IP, 1.08 WHIP, 5.1 K/9, 6.1 WAR SP Sandy Koufax (SFSE) - 17-6, 2.45 ERA, 224.1 IP, 1.00 WHIP, 8.9 K/9, 7.1 WAR SP Aubry Owens (FRES) - 15-6, 2.56 ERA, 221.1 IP, 1.07 WHIP, 11.3 K/9, 4.4 WAR SP Mickey Welch (TUCS) - 16-7, 2.73 ERA, 227.2 IP, 1.17 WHIP, 3.7 K/9, 4.5 WAR RP Dennis Martinez (KANS) - 9-3, 3.12 ERA, 156.0 IP, 1.19 WHIP, 5.0 K/9, 3.1 WAR CL Benny Frey (SFSE)* - 2-8, 36 SV, 1.58 ERA, 62.2 IP, 1.26 WHIP, 3.2 K/9, 1.5 WAR CL Telosh Howard (INDI) - 6-7, 23 SV, 2.82 ERA, 70.1 IP, 1.15 WHIP, 11.4 K/9, 1.7 WAR CL Leroy Paige (LOUI) - 10-4, 12 SV, 3.20 ERA, 107.0 IP, 1.21 WHIP, 2.9 K/9, 1.5 WAR CL Lee Smith (CINC) - 8-1, 30 SV, 1.80 ERA, 65.0 IP, 1.26 WHIP, 7.1 K/9, 1.8 WAR C Roy Campanella (CHIC)* - .248/.324/.373, 327 AB, 9 HR, 101 wRC+, 2.6 WAR C William Martin (INDI) - .291/.332/.412, 364 AB, 4 HR, 4 SB, 113 wRC+, 1.7 WAR 1B Lou Gehrig (CINC)* - .318/.439/.575, 431 AB, 29 HR, 2 SB, 101 RBI, 6.1 WAR 1B Vladimir Guerrero Jr. (DAYT) - .309/.367/.537, 475 AB, 29 HR, 144 wRC+, 4.1 WAR 1B Mark McGwire (CHIC) - .244/.392/.554, 410 AB, 39 HR, 171 wRC+, 4.8 WAR 2B Julio Franco (DAYT)* - .311/.366/.488, 434 AB, 16 HR, 16 SB, 137 wRC+, 4.2 WAR 3B Jimmy Collins (CHIC)* - .307/.352/.413, 460 AB, 7 HR, 25 SB, 118 wRC+, 3.9 WAR 3B George Hurst (DETR) - .257/.313/.486, 444 AB, 25 HR, 128 wRC+, 4.0 WAR SS Luke Appling (CHIC)* - .330/.397/.420, 421 AB, 3 HR, 12 SB, 138 wRC+, 5.0 WAR LF Yordan Alvarez (SLCB) - .276/.382/.552, 417 AB, 29 HR, 2 SB, 155 wRC+, 4.7 WAR LF Ted Williams (SFSE)* - .298/.389/.528, 436 AB, 27 HR, 2 SB, 165 wRC+, 4.8 WAR CF Larry Walker (CINC) - .295/.364/.512, 424 AB, 20 HR, 22 SB, 150 wRC+, 5.0 WAR CF Hack Wilson (DALL)* - .327/.402/.597, 444 AB, 33 HR, 2 SB, 115 RBI, 5.8 WAR RF Harry Heilmann (CHIC)* - .296/.358/.499, 443 AB, 18 HR, 3 SB, 146 wRC+, 3.3 WAR RF Mel Ott (STLO)* - .298/.396/.532, 410 AB, 25 HR, 5 SB, 167 wRC+, 5.2 WAR King Association All-Stars (*= Starters) SP Jim Bunning (PENS) - 18-8, 2.38 ERA, 226.2 IP, 1.02 WHIP, 6.7 K/9, 6.4 WAR SP Steve Carlton (PITT) - 18-4, 1.89 ERA, 209.2 IP, 0.97 WHIP, 7.3 K/9, 6.2 WAR SP George Harney (VANC) - 16-8, 2.04 ERA, 229.1 IP, 1.12 WHIP, 4.2 K/9, 6.3 WAR SP Slim Jones (PITT) - 17-8, 1.96 ERA, 216.1 IP, 0.86 WHIP, 3.5 K/9, 5.2 WAR SP Don Sutton (BOST) - 18-5, 2.75 ERA, 206.0 IP, 1.01 WHIP, 4.8 K/9, 4.3 WAR SP Ed Walsh (PITT)* - 15-7, 3.27 ERA, 226.0 IP, 1.23 WHIP, 6.0 K/9, 7.5 WAR RP Eddie Cicotte (VANC) - 9-5, 2.95 ERA, 171.0 IP, 1.31 WHIP, 3.9 K/9, 3.7 WAR RP Carlos Pascual (PITT) - 4-1, 1.42 ERA, 12.2 IP, 0.95 WHIP, 5.0 K/9, 0.3 WAR CL Garnett Blair (SASO)* - 5-8, 27 SV, 1.88 ERA, 72.0 IP, 0.96 WHIP, 3.5 K/9, 0.8 WAR CL Emmanuel Clase (BALT) - 3-3, 6 SV, 2.39 ERA, 26.1 IP, 1.29 WHIP, 9.6 K/9, 1.6 WAR CL Alto Lane (BOST) - 7-4, 31 SV, 1.34 ERA, 67.0 IP, 0.72 WHIP, 8.6 K/9, 1.9 WAR C Johnny Bench (BALT) - .248/.336/.508, 319 AB, 22 HR, 4 SB, 138 wRC+, 4.4 WAR C Mickey Cochrane (MOBO)* - .311/.392/.467, 366 AB, 9 HR, 3 SB, 143 wRC+, 2.9 WAR 1B Jeff Bagwell (BOST)* - .270/.390/.559, 429 AB, 33 HR, 8 SB, 105 RBI, 5.1 WAR 1B Hank Greenberg (BALT) - .313/.390/.562, 454 AB, 30 HR, 2 SB, 169 wRC+, 4.9 WAR 2B Tim Anderson (BALT)* - .324/.355/.500, 442 AB, 20 HR, 11 SB, 145 wRC+, 5.1 WAR 3B Cal Ripken Jr. (SEAT) - .305/.359/.482, 423 AB, 18 HR, 2 SB, 142 wRC+, 4.3 WAR 3B Alex Rodriguez (BALT)* - .294/.365/.577, 402 AB, 32 HR, 6 SB, 164 wRC+, 5.4 WAR SS Art Fletcher (BOST)* - .302/.323/.406, 421 AB, 6 HR, 17 SB, 103 wRC+, 3.8 WAR LF Albert Belle (PHIL) - .277/.367/.507, 440 AB, 27 HR, 4 SB, 147 wRC+, 3.6 WAR LF Babe Ruth (SEAT)* - .289/.442/.573, 363 AB, 32 HR, 5 SB, 186 wRC+, 6.0 WAR CF Cody Bellinger (BOST) - .298/.352/.522, 450 AB, 27 HR, 4 SB, 148 wRC+, 4.5 WAR CF Ty Cobb (BALT)* - .327/.391/.459, 462 AB, 5 HR, 75 SB, 142 wRC+, 4.4 WAR RF Roberto Clemente (BALT) - .313/.339/.483, 476 AB, 15 HR, 136 wRC+, 4.2 WAR RF Vladimir Guerrero (SEAT) - .282/.343/.561, 433 AB, 33 HR, 9 SB, 156 wRC+, 3.0 WAR RF Bryce Harper (PHIL)* - .270/.391/.621, 404 AB, 40 HR, 13 SB, 183 wRC+, 5.8 WAR HR Derby Hack Wilson (Dallas) def Max Muncy (Philadelphia) 11-10. ASG Final Score Lincoln Association 1, King Association 0 ASG MVP Larry Walker (Cincinnati) AtHoL PROSPECTS GAME Not a-one of our guys make it. Lincoln Association Prospects SP Gregorio Alvarez (DETR-R) - 3-3, 7.17 ERA, 37.2 IP, 1.99 WHIP, 5.3 K/9, -0.4 WAR SP Bernardo Baro (CHIC-A) - 15-3, 3.31 ERA, 149.2 IP, 1.27 WHIP, 6.4 K/9, 3.8 WAR SP Miguel Chavez (DALL-A) - 4-9, 6.86 ERA, 105.0 IP, 2.15 WHIP, 4.6 K/9, -1.5 WAR SP Sal Galagos (HOLL-A) - 1-13, 10.26 ERA, 93.0 IP, 2.52 WHIP, 5.4 K/9, -1.7 WAR SP Emiliano Gonzalez (DALL-R) - 3-4, 6.87 ERA, 56.1 IP, 1.69 WHIP, 5.9 K/9, -0.2 WAR SP Jorge Luevano (TUCS-A) - 5-14, 4.65 ERA, 131.2 IP, 1.80 WHIP, 8.2 K/9, 1.3 WAR SP Victor Roman (DALL-R) - 4-2, 3.06 ERA, 61.2 IP, 1.25 WHIP, 5.4 K/9, 1.1 WAR SP Stanley Troost (DAYT-AA) - 14-6, 4.82 ERA, 145.2 IP, 1.67 WHIP, 4.9 K/9, 2.2 WAR SP Victor Trujillo (SLCB-R) - 3-2, 4.28 ERA, 48.1 IP, 1.53 WHIP, 6.3 K/9, 0.9 WAR CL David Valladolid (DETR-A) - 3-9, 19 SV, 9.47 ERA, 44.2 IP, 2.73 WHIP, 5.0 K/9, -3.3 WAR C Jose Agustin Rodriguez (DETR-A) - .310/.432/.423, 300 AB, 3 HR, 13 SB, 128 wRC+, 2.0 WAR C Grant Fulcher (HOLL-AA) - .306/.367/.442, 337 AB, 12 HR, 1 SB, 105 wRC+, 1.6 WAR 1B Derrek Lee (KANS-R) - .283/.365/.462, 446 AB, 18 HR, 19 SB, 113 wRC+, 2.3 WAR 1B Jorge Salas (MORO-R) - .215/.268/.311, 209 AB, 5 HR, 47 wRC+, -0.5 WAR 2B Danny Chavez (DETR-R) - .233/.331/.287, 129 AB, 72 wRC+, -0.2 WAR 2B Aaron Ward (DALL-AAA) - .316/.361/.442, 453 AB, 6 HR, 7 SB, 127 wRC+, 4.3 WAR 2B Whitey Witt (MORO-AA) - .340/.450/.488, 424 AB, 3 HR, 20 SB, 147 wRC+, 4.4 WAR 3B Ruben Aldama (LOUI-R) - .317/.367/.400, 145 AB, 2 HR, 1 SB, 106 wRC+, 0.5 WAR 3B Jerry Aleman (DETR-R) - .321/.444/.489, 131 AB, 3 HR, 5 SB, 157 wRC+, 1.7 WAR LF Esteban Flores (MORO-R) - .231/.286/.362, 130 AB, 4 HR, 1 SB, 67 wRC+, -0.1 WAR LF Ricardo Fuentes (SLCB-R) - .243/.290/.309, 152 AB, 2 HR, 1 SB, 50 wRC+, -0.7 WAR LF Carlos Mdico (FRES-R) - .304/.400/.370, 138 AB, 3 HR, 117 wRC+, 0.5 WAR CF Andres Macias (LOUI-A) - .261/.340/.351, 348 AB, 4 HR, 27 SB, 78 wRC+, 0.4 WAR CF Miguel Montemayor (DETR-R) - .268/.333/.458, 299 AB, 11 HR, 2 SB, 105 wRC+, 1.2 WAR RF Vincenzio Radini (DAYT-R) - .404/.472/.702, 104 AB, 7 HR, 204 wRC+, 2.0 WAR RF Sven Schroeder (SFSE-R) - .267/.391/.371, 105 AB, 2 HR, 1 SB, 113 wRC+, 0.0 WAR King Association Prospects SP Stewart Ayres (PENS-R) - 0-5, 6.75 ERA, 38.2 IP, 1.71 WHIP, 4.9 K/9, 0.0 WAR SP Jordan Cespedes (POBE-R) - 3-3, 4.53 ERA, 47.2 IP, 1.47 WHIP, 5.5 K/9, 0.8 WAR SP Kirby Higbe (BOST-R) - 5-3, 4.35 ERA, 51.2 IP, 1.35 WHIP, 11.8 K/9, 1.8 WAR SP Gerardo Macias (PENS-R) - 5-4, 3.90 ERA, 62.1 IP, 1.60 WHIP, 6.2 K/9, 1.4 WAR SP Leo Mendoza (PITT-R) - 3-3, 3.96 ERA, 38.2 IP, 1.55 WHIP, 9.1 K/9, 0.8 WAR SP Agustin Rodriguez (BOST-R) - 3-2, 5.79 ERA, 42.0 IP, 1.98 WHIP, 4.3 K/9, -0.1 WAR SP Vinny Valdez (BOST-R) - 1-2, 2 SV, 7.56 ERA, 16.2 IP, 1.86 WHIP, 8.6 K/9, 0.2 WAR SP Domingo Vigil (BALT-A) - 2-16, 8.59 ERA, 102.2 IP, 2.36 WHIP, 4.6 K/9, -0.8 WAR SP Duane Ward (MOBI-AA) - 6-9, 4.73 ERA, 150.1 IP, 1.59 WHIP, 6.2 K/9, -0.2 WAR SP Doug Westberry (BROO-AAA) - 14-7, 4.44 ERA, 164.1 IP, 1.47 WHIP, 7.6 K/9, 4.3 WAR C Jose Landeros (SJPP-R) - .301/.374/.417, 103 AB, 2 HR, 110 wRC+, 0.7 WAR C Mario Rodriguez (NYKB-R) - .229/.296/.257, 210 AB, 42 wRC+, -0.9 WAR 1B Kaleb Rice (RALE-AA) - .342/.413/.619, 436 AB, 34 HR, 116 RBI, 4.9 WAR 2B Billy Garcia (SASO-R) - .221/.257/.297, 290 AB, 2 HR, 8 SB, 35 wRC+, -1.4 WAR 2B Antonio Irizarry (NEOP-R) - .369/.464/.608, 130 AB, 5 HR, 2 SB, 187 wRC+, 2.6 WAR 3B Cesar Martinez (DEBE-R) - .297/.383/.333, 111 AB, 1 HR, 94 wRC+, 0.4 WAR 3B Glaucio Medina (RALE-R) - .382/.462/.588, 102 AB, 3 HR, 5 SB, 177 wRC+, 1.6 WAR 3B Edwin Valladares (PENS-R) - .226/.257/.323, 133 AB, 3 HR, 1 SB, 49 wRC+, -0.6 WAR SS Carlos Gastelum (PITT-A) - .261/.299/.379, 406 AB, 4 HR, 10 SB, 69 wRC+, -0.1 WAR SS Carlos Melendez (VANC-A) - .286/.351/.392, 255 AB, 3 HR, 9 SB, 90 wRC+, 0.2 WAR LF Mario Lara (SJPP-R) - .250/.314/.353, 156 AB, 1 HR, 75 wRC+, -0.3 WAR LF Javier Salazar (SASO-R) - .190/.317/.321, 84 AB, 2 HR, 73 wRC+, -0.2 WAR CF Charlie Blackwell (BROO-AAA) - .264/.340/.360, 417 AB, 4 HR, 32 SB, 102 wRC+, 1.7 WAR CF Ed Briggs (WISA-AA) - .337/.420/.643, 356 AB, 26 HR, 16 SB, 169 wRC+, 4.4 WAR CF Jonathan Cuellar (DEBE-AA) - .235/.275/.338, 340 AB, 3 HR, 4 SB, 50 wRC+, -1.4 WAR CF Hector Villegas (DEBE-R) - .261/.319/.386, 329 AB, 9 HR, 11 SB, 84 wRC+, 0.9 WAR PG Final Score King Association 5, Lincoln Association 2 (11 innings) PG MVP Antonio Irizarry (Arvada - R, New Orleans) ![]() Last edited by luckymann; 05-07-2023 at 05:18 AM. |
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News from Around the Horn: Sizzling Sisler Six-Pack
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Stat Check: K
Which active pitchers are leading the Around the Horn League in career strikeouts?
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News from Around the Horn: Let's Play 2(1)!
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News from Third Base: end of 1964 season recap
The Macon Peaches are a tough beat throughout the playoffs and, at their 5th try, knock off Reidsville to take their first 3BL Championship.
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News from Second Base: end of 1964 season recap
Our defending 2BL Champion Portland Phenoms get back to the playoffs but make an early exit and it is another first-time winner in their 5th try with the Tampa Smokers seeing off the Hot Springs Bathers in five.
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News from First Base: end of 1964 season recap
And for the second straight year we get to open and add to the trophy cabinet at Sick's, with our A-ball San Leandro boys dominating (try 124-16!) again and this time converting it into their first 1BL title - would you believe it, at their 5th attempt - with a six-game triumph against one of my old farm clubs Peoria.
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1964 AtHoL Playoffs - Wild Card Round
Two absolute classics as the Reds come back from the dead to KO the defending Champs and the Whales dismount the Cowboys with a thrilling walkoff win. That sets up two intra-Band matchups for the victors in the next round, while San Francisco takes on Houston and we face Montgomery. Both of my previous clubs await if the stars align.
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