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tnfoto · 03-18-2009, 10:26 AM

Gerry Shea (likely) alt for facepack, much higher-res version of current facepack image.
IMPORTANT: Read posts #8648 and #8652 below regarding questions about Shea's identity.

tnfoto · 03-18-2009, 10:39 AM

Kirby White 1910 Pirates

tnfoto · 03-18-2009, 11:13 AM

Bill McCorry, pictured with 1913 San Francisco PCL

tnfoto · 03-18-2009, 11:33 AM

Spec Harkness, pictured with 1914 Venice PCL

tnfoto · 03-18-2009, 04:39 PM

Bill Tozer, pictured with 1914 San Francisco

pegasus27 · 03-18-2009, 05:12 PM

1969 Orioles

pegasus27 · 03-18-2009, 05:15 PM

1977 Dodgers

tnfoto · 03-18-2009, 07:56 PM

I just got a message from Bill Hickman indicating that the Gerry Shea image I posted earlier (the same image currently included in the photo pack, and shown again in its entirety below) may or may not be the Cardinals catcher.

I previously had the Shea image listed in my collection as "likely" Gerry Shea based on the year of issue of the tobacco card that the image came from (1909-11 Obak T212) and the fact that the image showed the player wearing a catcher's mitt--I don't have solid ID evidence, but assumed that two catching Sheas from the same time period was unlikely. I then "verified" my ID when I saw the same image included in the photo pack as Gerry Shea.

Could anyone here provide a definitive ID for the T212 Seattle Shea? If not, he should go back on the missing list.

Thanks...

tnfoto · 03-18-2009, 11:41 PM

Dolph Camilli Phillies

WrightWing · 03-19-2009, 02:01 AM

There are 2 Shea's that I can find in the 1906 Spalding Guide - Both are catchers. The larger picture here is from Image 158 of the Newark team and the smaller image is cropped from the San Francisco team photo found on Image 314. Which one is is Gerry Shea, if either, I have no clue...

UKBaseballfan · 03-19-2009, 02:41 AM

Missing player to be added to facepack.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrightWing

There are 2 Shea's that I can find in the 1906 Spalding Guide - Both are catchers. The larger picture here is from Image 158 of the Newark team and the smaller image is cropped from the San Francisco team photo found on Image 314. Which one is is Gerry Shea, if either, I have no clue...

The guy to the left looks like the image in the facepack for Nap Shea also a catcher. The same guy is also depicted in the St. Louis Encyclopedia (I understand wrongly) as Gerry Shea. The guy on the right looks the same player that is shown on the Obak card as a Seattle player, is his first name Gerry, I don't know. There is a web site that lists major league players who appeared on Obak cards, Gerry Shea is not listed (maybe the list isn't comprehensive).

t_wil1 · 03-19-2009, 05:30 AM

http://www.minors.sabrwebs.com/cgi-b...php?team=32632

SABR minor league Database has the players name as Danny Shea.... did not play in the majors

Quote:

Originally Posted by tnfoto

I just got a message from Bill Hickman indicating that the Gerry Shea image I posted earlier (the same image currently included in the photo pack, and shown again in its entirety below) may or may not be the Cardinals catcher.

I previously had the Shea image listed in my collection as "likely" Gerry Shea based on the year of issue of the tobacco card that the image came from (1909-11 Obak T212) and the fact that the image showed the player wearing a catcher's mitt--I don't have solid ID evidence, but assumed that two catching Sheas from the same time period was unlikely. I then "verified" my ID when I saw the same image included in the photo pack as Gerry Shea.

Could anyone here provide a definitive ID for the T212 Seattle Shea? If not, he should go back on the missing list.

Thanks...

t_wil1 · 03-19-2009, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrightWing

There are 2 Shea's that I can find in the 1906 Spalding Guide - Both are catchers. The larger picture here is from Image 158 of the Newark team and the smaller image is cropped from the San Francisco team photo found on Image 314. Which one is is Gerry Shea, if either, I have no clue...

Newark Shea is Nap Shea

SABR Minor Leagues Database: Nap Shea

SanFrancisco Shea is Ed Shea

SABR Minor Leagues Database: Ed Shea

UKBaseballfan · 03-19-2009, 07:02 AM

Missing player to be added to facepack

WrightWing · 03-19-2009, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_wil1

Newark Shea is Nap Shea

SABR Minor Leagues Database: Nap Shea

SanFrancisco Shea is Ed Shea

SABR Minor Leagues Database: Ed Shea

That's an awesome link on the minor league rosters, twil. I assume that the pictures in the Spalding 1906 Guide are the 1905 teams. If that's the case, then the San Francisco player is catcher Dennis Shea.

I was unaware of the database for minor leaguers on SABR. Thanks again twil...

tnfoto · 03-19-2009, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t_wil1

SABR Minor Leagues Database: 1910 Seattle Giants (Northwestern League)

SABR minor league Database has the players name as Danny Shea.... did not play in the majors

Thank you for the ID. I've got to get better acquainted with the minor league db. Lots of great info there.

I've moved the Shea images to my minor league collection and removed Gerry from my "found" list. This just goes to show how wrong I was to assume--I thought there wasn't likely to be more than one catching Shea during an era and there turned out to be three!

Ctrane · 03-19-2009, 11:23 AM

Butch Henline - 1921

UKBaseballfan · 03-19-2009, 11:33 AM

Alternate image

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrightWing

That's an awesome link on the minor league rosters, twil. I assume that the pictures in the Spalding 1906 Guide are the 1905 teams. If that's the case, then the San Francisco player is catcher Dennis Shea.

I was unaware of the database for minor leaguers on SABR. Thanks again twil...

I'd like to echo the above comments. I had suspected that the image posted above was of Tug Wilson. That link confirmed it.

pegasus27 · 03-19-2009, 06:03 PM

1970 Indians

pegasus27 · 03-19-2009, 06:06 PM

1968 Reds

03-18-2009, 10:26 AM	#8641
tnfoto Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Port Angeles, WA Posts: 12,711	Gerry Shea (likely) 1905 Alt Gerry Shea (likely) alt for facepack, much higher-res version of current facepack image. IMPORTANT: Read posts #8648 and #8652 below regarding questions about Shea's identity. Attached Images __________________ TNFOTO: baseball careers ended "Through No Fault Of Their Own" Facepack updated 4/5/2022 Info & download links here. Missing player/manager/umpire list or Pegasus UIN list Download Facepack & more at tnfoto's Baseball Photos Homepage Photo threads: 2025 Debuts Majors Managers Coaches Umpires Minors Negro League Image Requests General Image Discussion Last edited by tnfoto; 03-20-2009 at 12:27 AM.

03-18-2009, 10:39 AM	#8642
tnfoto Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Port Angeles, WA Posts: 12,711	Kirby White 1909 Alt Kirby White 1910 Pirates Attached Images __________________ TNFOTO: baseball careers ended "Through No Fault Of Their Own" Facepack updated 4/5/2022 Info & download links here. Missing player/manager/umpire list or Pegasus UIN list Download Facepack & more at tnfoto's Baseball Photos Homepage Photo threads: 2025 Debuts Majors Managers Coaches Umpires Minors Negro League Image Requests General Image Discussion

03-18-2009, 11:13 AM	#8643
tnfoto Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Port Angeles, WA Posts: 12,711	Bill McCorry 1909 Alt Bill McCorry, pictured with 1913 San Francisco PCL Attached Images __________________ TNFOTO: baseball careers ended "Through No Fault Of Their Own" Facepack updated 4/5/2022 Info & download links here. Missing player/manager/umpire list or Pegasus UIN list Download Facepack & more at tnfoto's Baseball Photos Homepage Photo threads: 2025 Debuts Majors Managers Coaches Umpires Minors Negro League Image Requests General Image Discussion

03-18-2009, 11:33 AM	#8644
tnfoto Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Port Angeles, WA Posts: 12,711	Spec Harkness 1910 Alt Spec Harkness, pictured with 1914 Venice PCL Attached Images __________________ TNFOTO: baseball careers ended "Through No Fault Of Their Own" Facepack updated 4/5/2022 Info & download links here. Missing player/manager/umpire list or Pegasus UIN list Download Facepack & more at tnfoto's Baseball Photos Homepage Photo threads: 2025 Debuts Majors Managers Coaches Umpires Minors Negro League Image Requests General Image Discussion

03-18-2009, 04:39 PM	#8645
tnfoto Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Port Angeles, WA Posts: 12,711	Bill Tozer 1908 Alt Bill Tozer, pictured with 1914 San Francisco Attached Images __________________ TNFOTO: baseball careers ended "Through No Fault Of Their Own" Facepack updated 4/5/2022 Info & download links here. Missing player/manager/umpire list or Pegasus UIN list Download Facepack & more at tnfoto's Baseball Photos Homepage Photo threads: 2025 Debuts Majors Managers Coaches Umpires Minors Negro League Image Requests General Image Discussion

03-18-2009, 05:12 PM	#8646
pegasus27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bluefield, WV Posts: 2,484	Boog Powell 1961 1969 Orioles Attached Images

03-18-2009, 05:15 PM	#8647
pegasus27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bluefield, WV Posts: 2,484	Boog Powell 1961 1977 Dodgers Attached Images

03-18-2009, 07:56 PM	#8648
tnfoto Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Port Angeles, WA Posts: 12,711	Gerry Shea 1905 ID HELP I just got a message from Bill Hickman indicating that the Gerry Shea image I posted earlier (the same image currently included in the photo pack, and shown again in its entirety below) may or may not be the Cardinals catcher. I previously had the Shea image listed in my collection as "likely" Gerry Shea based on the year of issue of the tobacco card that the image came from (1909-11 Obak T212) and the fact that the image showed the player wearing a catcher's mitt--I don't have solid ID evidence, but assumed that two catching Sheas from the same time period was unlikely. I then "verified" my ID when I saw the same image included in the photo pack as Gerry Shea. Could anyone here provide a definitive ID for the T212 Seattle Shea? If not, he should go back on the missing list. Thanks... Attached Images __________________ TNFOTO: baseball careers ended "Through No Fault Of Their Own" Facepack updated 4/5/2022 Info & download links here. Missing player/manager/umpire list or Pegasus UIN list Download Facepack & more at tnfoto's Baseball Photos Homepage Photo threads: 2025 Debuts Majors Managers Coaches Umpires Minors Negro League Image Requests General Image Discussion Last edited by tnfoto; 03-19-2009 at 01:24 AM.

03-18-2009, 11:41 PM	#8649
tnfoto Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Port Angeles, WA Posts: 12,711	Dolph Camilli 1933 Alt Phillies Uni Dolph Camilli Phillies Attached Images __________________ TNFOTO: baseball careers ended "Through No Fault Of Their Own" Facepack updated 4/5/2022 Info & download links here. Missing player/manager/umpire list or Pegasus UIN list Download Facepack & more at tnfoto's Baseball Photos Homepage Photo threads: 2025 Debuts Majors Managers Coaches Umpires Minors Negro League Image Requests General Image Discussion

03-19-2009, 02:01 AM	#8650
WrightWing All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 709	There are 2 Shea's that I can find in the 1906 Spalding Guide - Both are catchers. The larger picture here is from Image 158 of the Newark team and the smaller image is cropped from the San Francisco team photo found on Image 314. Which one is is Gerry Shea, if either, I have no clue... Attached Images

03-19-2009, 07:02 AM	#8654
UKBaseballfan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 6,616 Infractions: 0/1 (2)	Tug Wilson 1884 Missing player to be added to facepack Attached Images

03-19-2009, 11:23 AM	#8657
Ctrane Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Newington, CT Posts: 2,296	Butch Henline - 1921 Attached Images

03-19-2009, 06:03 PM	#8659
pegasus27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bluefield, WV Posts: 2,484	Vada Pinson 1958 1970 Indians Attached Images

03-19-2009, 06:06 PM	#8660
pegasus27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bluefield, WV Posts: 2,484	Vada Pinson 1958 1968 Reds Attached Images