OOTP 17 feature idea: Historical exhibition game - Page 5

Redeemed143 · 01-30-2016, 05:03 PM

never cared if the 79 Pirates could would or should beat the 60 Pirates if they were asked to.
voted no.

MorseMoose · 01-30-2016, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

That is already supported. You can play exhibition games in your league and the stats are tracked as a split "Exhibition" for players.

AHAH...well then...

Trebro · 01-30-2016, 06:07 PM

I voted no because in a finite amount of time to work on the game, I want the priority to be on how the AI works on making roster decisions.

No matter what way you play (historical, modern MLB, fictional, god-mode, game by game, GM only, or any combination), the AI's roster decisions are what we interact with the most. And while it's amazing how good OOTP's AI is--it's still got a lot of things it does wrong.

Everything else should take a back seat to this. And if that's the choice as presented in the poll, it's going to be "no" every time for me.

Déjà Bru · 01-30-2016, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lukasberger

Markus is definitely not turning his back on historical, au contraire! Can't say much yet but if all goes well you'll see why I say that soon enough

A tantalizing comment. I wonder . . .

Plus, the post was edited! What did he say before he did so?

Did he prematurely reveal something so mammoth in impact that his safety would have been compromised, so he hastily reacted, retracted, and redacted??

Le Grande Orange · 01-30-2016, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

I agree, being able to play series would be really great. But more work as well

I would presume so. However, is the additional amount of work to have your proposal allow for a best-of series (either of predetermined length or user selected) really that much greater than having only a single game?

Lukas Berger · 01-30-2016, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

A tantalizing comment. I wonder . . .

Plus, the post was edited! What did he say before he did so?

Did he prematurely reveal something so mammoth in impact that his safety would have been compromised, so he hastily reacted, retracted, and redacted??

, no big conspiracy or premature reveal, I just added the au contraire part because I thought it sounded better! I'm an inveterate editor of my already posted content.

msupoke · 01-30-2016, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

A tantalizing comment. I wonder . . .

Plus, the post was edited! What did he say before he did so?

Did he prematurely reveal something so mammoth in impact that his safety would have been compromised, so he hastily reacted, retracted, and redacted??

I saw it. He said something about aliens and it being an inside job.

GiantYankee · 01-31-2016, 12:26 AM

Yes please!

The Game · 01-31-2016, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

Last year it was mentioned that historical uniforms might make it in. I may need some form of sedation to contain myself if they are.......or at least make the announcement when I'm at home alone...my coworkers already think I'm nuts.

Would they do that with the MLB license? They use the C logo for Cleveland vs the actual logo for that season. Would the real uniform end up getting changed also?

JMDurron · 01-31-2016, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jpeters1734

Click on hitting streaks and it will sort for you the longest streak!!

Per our PM conversation, I think I need to clarify this.

Example:

Let's say it's 2024. I have a player who had a 30-game hitting streak in 2020. I see hitting streaks of 25, 22, and 18 by 3 other players on the League Leaderboard for the American League (where my team plays). My player proceeds to go on a 24-game hitting streak.

While his streak is active, it will appear on the leaderboard, from game 18 or 19 (not sure how tiebreakers work here) until game 24. As soon as his streak is over, though, it disappears from the leaderboard. Somehow, his 30-game streak makes the game forget his 24-game streak for in-season purposes.

It has been noted in previous versions that this only happens if the player has a longer streak somewhere in his personal history, but I see no reason for that to wipe away his in-season streak from the in-season hitting streak leaderboard. If the 24-game streak was his career best, it would remain on the leaderboard.

Markus Heinsohn · 01-31-2016, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JMDurron

Per our PM conversation, I think I need to clarify this.

Example:

Let's say it's 2024. I have a player who had a 30-game hitting streak in 2020. I see hitting streaks of 25, 22, and 18 by 3 other players on the League Leaderboard for the American League (where my team plays). My player proceeds to go on a 24-game hitting streak.

While his streak is active, it will appear on the leaderboard, from game 18 or 19 (not sure how tiebreakers work here) until game 24. As soon as his streak is over, though, it disappears from the leaderboard. Somehow, his 30-game streak makes the game forget his 24-game streak for in-season purposes.

It has been noted in previous versions that this only happens if the player has a longer streak somewhere in his personal history, but I see no reason for that to wipe away his in-season streak from the in-season hitting streak leaderboard. If the 24-game streak was his career best, it would remain on the leaderboard.

Known issue, almost impossible to fix with a decent amount of work. Hence it's what it is for several years now and will likely continue to.

JMDurron · 01-31-2016, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Known issue, almost impossible to fix with a decent amount of work. Hence it's what it is for several years now and will likely continue to.

Understood. It's comforting to know that it is known, understood, and merited such analysis even if it won't be fixed in the near term. I'd hardly call it a critical need worth dumping major effort into.

Caporegime · 01-31-2016, 11:51 AM

I can dig it. Although, apropos to the poll, I'd also like to see the trade AI tweaked a bit as well.

Can we have both?

Motorhead667 · 01-31-2016, 03:14 PM

Great idea, would use it a lot.

ashantewarrier · 01-31-2016, 10:37 PM

"Nope, waste of time, improve the damned trade AI instead."

Mike D · 02-01-2016, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

I have no opinion on the feature one way or the other, but if it is to be included, the above would make it much more interesting.

Allow the exhibition to be set up as a best-of-7 series. This would harken back to the old days when some of the major league clubs would play "city series" after the conclusion of the regular season (the Cubs and White Sox played post-regular season city series for many years).

Mainly cause that was the only post season action either team saw for years.

Mike D · 02-01-2016, 01:45 PM

Also, I think this thread proves that we need some pictures to look at to keep us from fight each other.

BIG17EASY · 02-01-2016, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike D

Also, I think this thread proves that we need some pictures to look at to keep us from fight each other.

Your avatar is a good start.

Le Grande Orange · 02-01-2016, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike D

Mainly cause that was the only post season action either team saw for years.

Heh, I'm sure that contributed. But other clubs also staged post-season exhibition series. (In-season exhibition games were once quite frequent as well; these were, naturally, only a single game against a given opponent.)

Déjà Bru · 02-01-2016, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike D

Also, I think this thread proves that we need some pictures to look at to keep us from fight each other.

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Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

Your avatar is a good start.

This is why I come here everyday! Where else would I get entertainment like this?

View Poll Results: Would you use the historical exhibition game feature?
Yes, great idea, I'd use it!	115	57.21%
Nope, waste of time, improve the damned trade AI instead.	86	42.79%
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01-30-2016, 06:07 PM	#83
Trebro All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 753	I voted no because in a finite amount of time to work on the game, I want the priority to be on how the AI works on making roster decisions. No matter what way you play (historical, modern MLB, fictional, god-mode, game by game, GM only, or any combination), the AI's roster decisions are what we interact with the most. And while it's amazing how good OOTP's AI is--it's still got a lot of things it does wrong. Everything else should take a back seat to this. And if that's the choice as presented in the poll, it's going to be "no" every time for me. __________________ 2020 2021

01-31-2016, 11:51 AM	#93
Caporegime All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Borough of Kings Posts: 1,714	I can dig it. Although, apropos to the poll, I'd also like to see the trade AI tweaked a bit as well. Can we have both? __________________ "If you don't know where you are going, you'll wind up someplace else." - Lawrence Peter Berra

01-31-2016, 10:37 PM	#95
ashantewarrier Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somerset, NJ via Brooklyn, NY Posts: 2,304	"Nope, waste of time, improve the damned trade AI instead." __________________ "I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being." -Jackie Robinson, #42 Brooklyn Dodgers *"Hitting is better than sex."* - Reggie Jackson

02-01-2016, 01:45 PM	#97
Mike D Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In a van, down by the river Posts: 2,802	Also, I think this thread proves that we need some pictures to look at to keep us from fight each other. __________________ Sometimes the best laid plans will never get you laid the way you plan.

01-30-2016, 05:03 PM	#81
Redeemed143 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 64	never cared if the 79 Pirates could would or should beat the 60 Pirates if they were asked to. voted no.

01-31-2016, 12:26 AM	#88
GiantYankee All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,105	Yes please!

01-31-2016, 03:14 PM	#94
Motorhead667 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 576	Great idea, would use it a lot.