2008/2009 NFL Discussion Thread - Page 6

Prodigal Son · 11-23-2008, 05:38 PM

It amazes me what Kurt Warner has been able to do this year without much of an offensive line. It's like he gets hit after every play.

stevebydac · 11-23-2008, 07:04 PM

So here's a problem the Patriots never expected to have: what do they do with Matt Cassel this offseason?

He has been performing better week by week, and just became only the 5th QB in NFL history to throw for 400+ yards in consecutive games.

He will be a free agent this year. Do the Patriots franchise him, which apparently would cost (gulp) about $14M, to insure against Brady not or slowly recovering? If so, they can't trade him immediately after franchising as that is against league rules.

Yet if they just let him go for nothing, they lose perhaps a 1st Round draft pick (or more) that they could get in a trade to a QB-starved team.

If the Pats weren't so horrendously decimated by injuries, especially the defense, they actually could go deep into the playoffs with Matt Friggin' Cassel as QB. Amazing, who'd a thunk that at the start of the year?

Jordan · 11-27-2008, 03:39 PM

Jeff Fisher challenging the Calvin Johnson cathch with 3 minutes to go while up 47-10....classy

marioh · 11-29-2008, 03:06 PM

Burress "accidentally" shot in leg in NYC nightclub on Friday.
ESPN - New York Giants' Plaxico Burress suffers accidental gunshot wound

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New York Giants receiver Plaxico Burress suffered an accidental gunshot wound Friday night in a club, according to multiple sources.
The Giants said Saturday that Burress suffered a wound to his right thigh and was released from a New York hospital early Saturday afternoon. Details of how Burress was shot were not immediately available.

Plax has been nothing but a distraction since the beginning of the season. It's time for the Giants to part ways with Plax and try to get some sort of value for him.

stevebydac · 11-29-2008, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by marioh

Burress "accidentally" shot in leg in NYC nightclub on Friday.
ESPN - New York Giants' Plaxico Burress suffers accidental gunshot wound

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Plax has been nothing but a distraction since the beginning of the season. It's time for the Giants to part ways with Plax and try to get some sort of value for him.

It's amazing how stupid some of these athletes continue to be.

His Own Bad Self · 11-29-2008, 05:34 PM

I have Steve Breaston as the backup WR on my fantasy team. Plax is one of my starters. So, of course...

Breaston's already played this week. Can't switch out Burress for him. I go waiver wire trolling because I'm fed up with Plax. I go find Roy Williams, and when I try to release Plax? Yahoo says Plax is one of the "undroppable players". Guh.

BaseballMan · 11-29-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by stevebydac

So here's a problem the Patriots never expected to have: what do they do with Matt Cassel this offseason?

He has been performing better week by week, and just became only the 5th QB in NFL history to throw for 400+ yards in consecutive games.

He will be a free agent this year. Do the Patriots franchise him, which apparently would cost (gulp) about $14M, to insure against Brady not or slowly recovering? If so, they can't trade him immediately after franchising as that is against league rules.

Yet if they just let him go for nothing, they lose perhaps a 1st Round draft pick (or more) that they could get in a trade to a QB-starved team.

If the Pats weren't so horrendously decimated by injuries, especially the defense, they actually could go deep into the playoffs with Matt Friggin' Cassel as QB. Amazing, who'd a thunk that at the start of the year?

Trade him. Even if Brady were not to recover they would still be ok.
I mean they are still in the playoff race and Cassel last started in what high school? They should get what they can for him unless they want him to replace Brady which is unlikely.

PWillisTheMan · 12-10-2008, 11:19 PM

My Ravens are going to steamroll the girly Steelers this sunday. And i'll be there laughing.

His Own Bad Self · 12-14-2008, 04:33 PM

The ending to the Bills-Jets game is one of those that makes me wonder if all sporting events are secretly fixed and we just don't know it.

LFC1892 · 12-16-2008, 07:18 AM

Is there a play that the Philly fans dont boo?

yankeesrule · 12-16-2008, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LFC1892

Is there a play that the Philly fans dont boo?

philly touchdowns?

TonyJ · 12-17-2008, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BaseballMan

Trade him. Even if Brady were not to recover they would still be ok.
I mean they are still in the playoff race and Cassel last started in what high school? They should get what they can for him unless they want him to replace Brady which is unlikely.

The can't trade him. His contract is up after this season.

swampdragon · 12-17-2008, 09:34 AM

How is Brady, anyway? Can anyone depend on him next season?

Bobbuttons · 01-03-2009, 06:35 PM

What the hell is wrong with the officials in the Cards/Falcons game? This is bs. A blatant hold in the endzone by Atlanta. No call. Larry Fitzgerald gets mugged on a pass. No call. Doesn't get more obvious than those two plays.

The Professor · 01-03-2009, 07:00 PM

It is a conspiracy. The NFL wants the Falcons to win. It is a better story. Better ratings. Nobody likes the Cardinals.

Well, OK, I'll always rather like the Cardinals - the thing about first loves and all that, always a soft spot in my heart for them - but they're a moribund franchise with lousy ownership and one that belly-flopped into the playoffs this year. The longer the Big Red last in the postseason and the closer they get to a Super Bowl, I bet there will be some secret hand-wringing among the higher ups.

Le Grande Orange · 01-04-2009, 12:17 AM

Can someone explain to me why NFL teams insist on spending their time outs just a few seconds before the 2:00 minute mark?

Case in point: the San Diego-Indianapolis game. There's 2:41 left in the game, Indy has the ball deep in their own territory, and SD only has two timeouts left. But the Chargers spend use their two timeouts before the two minute mark even though the clock is going to stop at the two minute mark anyway. This makes no sense to me. What's the point of using up your timeouts to stop the clock when it's going to stop in 41 seconds anyway?

Okay, maybe you've saved a few seconds, but you've also deprived your offense of two timeouts, cutting down your options to get downfield to tie the game. Now you have to throw sideline or incomplete passes, or if you run the ball, you have to waste a down to spike the ball to stop the clock. Are you really any better off than had you saved your timeouts and started your chance with the ball with a few less seconds on the clock?

Personally, I'd rather have fewer seconds but with timeouts remaining since you can stop the clock instantly and without wasting a down.

BaseballMan · 01-04-2009, 12:38 AM

I dont know but maybe with all the substitution you dont really have the same 2 mins as years ago. But then again ive seen teams act as if its the 1st qrt.

His Own Bad Self · 01-04-2009, 02:02 AM

So much for the predictions that the four road teams would all win this week.

Hurkman · 01-04-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by His Own Bad Self

So much for the predictions that the four road teams would all win this week.

Tell me about it. I'm 0-2 on my picks so far AND I lost my AFC Super Bowl pick. Good thing I didn't put any money down on this stuff.

Le Grande Orange · 01-04-2009, 05:36 PM

Aside from my longstanding loathing of the NFL's punt return rules, there's something else I've noticed about games these days: they never call intentional grounding anymore. I've seen a number of plays that, twenty years ago, clearly would have been intentional grounding. But it seems they've changed the rules to make it much easier on the offences than it used to be by allowing what is, for all intents and purposes, intentional grounding.

11-23-2008, 07:04 PM	#102
stevebydac All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In a fictional baseball world Posts: 843	So here's a problem the Patriots never expected to have: what do they do with Matt Cassel this offseason? He has been performing better week by week, and just became only the 5th QB in NFL history to throw for 400+ yards in consecutive games. He will be a free agent this year. Do the Patriots franchise him, which apparently would cost (gulp) about $14M, to insure against Brady not or slowly recovering? If so, they can't trade him immediately after franchising as that is against league rules. Yet if they just let him go for nothing, they lose perhaps a 1st Round draft pick (or more) that they could get in a trade to a QB-starved team. If the Pats weren't so horrendously decimated by injuries, especially the defense, they actually could go deep into the playoffs with Matt Friggin' Cassel as QB. Amazing, who'd a thunk that at the start of the year? Last edited by stevebydac; 11-29-2008 at 05:20 PM.

12-17-2008, 09:34 AM	#113
swampdragon Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 2,509	How is Brady, anyway? Can anyone depend on him next season? __________________ “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies." -- C.S. Lewis

01-03-2009, 06:35 PM	#114
Bobbuttons Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Picturesque Mentor-on-the-Lake, Ohio Posts: 3,708	What the hell is wrong with the officials in the Cards/Falcons game? This is bs. A blatant hold in the endzone by Atlanta. No call. Larry Fitzgerald gets mugged on a pass. No call. Doesn't get more obvious than those two plays. __________________ Frankenstein never scared me. Marsupials do....cause they're fast! Gibson swings, and a fly ball to deep right field! This is gonna be a home run! Unbelievable! A home run for Gibson! And the Dodgers have won the game, 5 to 4; I don't believe what I just saw! I don't believe what I just saw!

01-03-2009, 07:00 PM	#115
The Professor Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: East of East Posts: 3,020	It is a conspiracy. The NFL wants the Falcons to win. It is a better story. Better ratings. Nobody likes the Cardinals. Well, OK, I'll always rather like the Cardinals - the thing about first loves and all that, always a soft spot in my heart for them - but they're a moribund franchise with lousy ownership and one that belly-flopped into the playoffs this year. The longer the Big Red last in the postseason and the closer they get to a Super Bowl, I bet there will be some secret hand-wringing among the higher ups. __________________ History isn't really about the past - settling old scores. It's about defining the present and who we are."

01-04-2009, 12:17 AM	#116
Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Up There Posts: 15,644	Can someone explain to me why NFL teams insist on spending their time outs just a few seconds before the 2:00 minute mark? Case in point: the San Diego-Indianapolis game. There's 2:41 left in the game, Indy has the ball deep in their own territory, and SD only has two timeouts left. But the Chargers spend use their two timeouts before the two minute mark even though the clock is going to stop at the two minute mark anyway. This makes no sense to me. What's the point of using up your timeouts to stop the clock when it's going to stop in 41 seconds anyway? Okay, maybe you've saved a few seconds, but you've also deprived your offense of two timeouts, cutting down your options to get downfield to tie the game. Now you have to throw sideline or incomplete passes, or if you run the ball, you have to waste a down to spike the ball to stop the clock. Are you really any better off than had you saved your timeouts and started your chance with the ball with a few less seconds on the clock? Personally, I'd rather have fewer seconds but with timeouts remaining since you can stop the clock instantly and without wasting a down. Last edited by Le Grande Orange; 01-04-2009 at 12:18 AM.

11-23-2008, 05:38 PM	#101
Prodigal Son All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Iahiodo a.k.a. the flyover Posts: 1,635	It amazes me what Kurt Warner has been able to do this year without much of an offensive line. It's like he gets hit after every play.

11-27-2008, 03:39 PM	#103
Jordan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chi Suburbs now... Posts: 2,012	Jeff Fisher challenging the Calvin Johnson cathch with 3 minutes to go while up 47-10....classy

11-29-2008, 05:34 PM	#106
His Own Bad Self All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,221	I have Steve Breaston as the backup WR on my fantasy team. Plax is one of my starters. So, of course... Breaston's already played this week. Can't switch out Burress for him. I go waiver wire trolling because I'm fed up with Plax. I go find Roy Williams, and when I try to release Plax? Yahoo says Plax is one of the "undroppable players". Guh.

12-10-2008, 11:19 PM	#108
PWillisTheMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,418	My Ravens are going to steamroll the girly Steelers this sunday. And i'll be there laughing.

12-14-2008, 04:33 PM	#109
His Own Bad Self All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,221	The ending to the Bills-Jets game is one of those that makes me wonder if all sporting events are secretly fixed and we just don't know it.

12-16-2008, 07:18 AM	#110
LFC1892 All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Global Posts: 963	Is there a play that the Philly fans dont boo?

01-04-2009, 12:38 AM	#117
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,624	I dont know but maybe with all the substitution you dont really have the same 2 mins as years ago. But then again ive seen teams act as if its the 1st qrt.

01-04-2009, 02:02 AM	#118
His Own Bad Self All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,221	So much for the predictions that the four road teams would all win this week.

01-04-2009, 05:36 PM	#120
Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Up There Posts: 15,644	Aside from my longstanding loathing of the NFL's punt return rules, there's something else I've noticed about games these days: they never call intentional grounding anymore. I've seen a number of plays that, twenty years ago, clearly would have been intentional grounding. But it seems they've changed the rules to make it much easier on the offences than it used to be by allowing what is, for all intents and purposes, intentional grounding.