OOTP 17 Update #8, Version 17.10.65 Available!

[OOTPinstripes]

Originally Posted by Griever20

Ok standard MLB league started in OOTP 15, converted to OOTP 17(Former ARI Dynasty), in 2024 season

I'll do some research on this too. I have scouts on with the default setting, which I don't think is a problem; even if the AI is releasing stud prospects, if no one in baseball knows they're stud prospects, is that really a problem?

In the game I'm going to experiment with, according to OOTP Scouting Association, there are no FA prospects under 20 with over a 1-star rating; according to my scout, there is only one such current FA prospect.

I'll sim a few days and report my results. FYI, this is not an imported league, I started this with the first version of 17 and have obviously patched up to the current patch.

EDIT: I have my assistant GM controlling MiL promotions and demotions and the MiL managers controlling lineups and staffs, but I control signing and releasing MiL players.

[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by OOTPinstripes

Is it possible to go back to the previous patch? Or is that patch gone forever?

I believe so, as the two saves won't be compatible.

[byzeil]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

I believe so, as the two saves won't be compatible.

According to the OP..

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Update Info: To apply the update, simply download the setup file and install it over your current installation. There is no need to uninstall or unlicense your current copy! However, you should quit the game before installing it, of course. updates always contain all the changes from previous updates. Saved games are compatible between different versions.

[OOTPinstripes]

Originally Posted by OOTPinstripes

I'll do some research on this too. I have scouts on with the default setting, which I don't think is a problem; even if the AI is releasing stud prospects, if no one in baseball knows they're stud prospects, is that really a problem?

In the game I'm going to experiment with, according to OOTP Scouting Association, there are no FA prospects under 20 with over a 1-star rating; according to my scout, there is only one such current FA prospect.

I'll sim a few days and report my results. FYI, this is not an imported league, I started this with the first version of 17 and have obviously patched up to the current patch.

EDIT: I have my assistant GM controlling MiL promotions and demotions and the MiL managers controlling lineups and staffs, but I control signing and releasing MiL players.

After just one day, there are now 6 such players according to OOTP Scouting Network and over 50 according to my scout (including 9 of 4 stars or better, 33 of 2.5 stars or better).

And there are a many 22-23 year old top prospects (rated as such by both OOTP Scouting Network and my scout) that technically didn't factor into my criteria but were not FA yesterday.

This is most definitely a bug.

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

These guys being released, are they low in work ethic and intelligence?

Because I have seen the AI shun players like these even though they are highly rated. Why this should have been amplified in this last patch, if it was, I don't know but that could be a partial answer.

Not that I am any paragon of knowledge, but nobody even responded to this idea.

Plus, allow me to point out the differences between the "stellar" players that my scout thinks are unjustly out there (released before the patch, I believe) and what OSA thinks. It's hardly the same list, sorted by potential. And a lot of those guys that my scout thinks are potential stars have low and very low work ethic and intelligence.

I think I will do this: I am looking at my own game, finding no terrible anomalies, and therefore I am returning to it. If guys here are right, then there will no doubt be a hot fix because OOTPD is that dependable.

[OOTPinstripes]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Not that I am any paragon of knowledge, but nobody even responded to this idea.

22-year-old pitcher. OSA has him as 4-star prospect, my scout as a 2-star prospect. Low leader, normal intelligence, normal work ethic.

Another 22-year-old pitcher, OSA has him at 3.5 stars, my scout at 2. Normal leader, high intelligence, normal work ethic.

22-year-old closer, OSA has him at 5, my scout at 3. High leader, normal intelligence, normal work ethic (and high loyalty, normal desire for winning team, very low greed).

I'm not going to go through every prospect, but not everyone was released for being lazy or a clubhouse cancer.

[pbreen]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Not that I am any paragon of knowledge, but nobody even responded to this idea.

Plus, allow me to point out the differences between the "stellar" players that my scout thinks are unjustly out there (released before the patch, I believe) and what OSA thinks. It's hardly the same list, sorted by potential. And a lot of those guys that my scout thinks are potential stars have low and very low work ethic and intelligence.

I think I will do this: I am looking at my own game, finding no terrible anomalies, and therefore I am returning to it. If guys here are right, then there will no doubt be a hot fix because OOTPD is that dependable.

Typically they are "normal/normal" players in Work Ethic and Intelligence. Both my scout and OSA agree most of the prospects being released are at least 70 potential players. One of which was the first pick overall in the previous years draft, with OSA and scouted potential of 80 and "high/normal" work ethic and intelligence. This is not an anomaly, it is more likely some people are just unaffected by it. Normally I would agree with you, and even say that some stud players have historically been cut from their teams, but not like this. Almost the entire first round draft class has been cut over he course of 3 sim days, all of those cannot be slobs with fake potential...

I believe in OOTPD too, but it is frustrating for people who did not realize this was happening until they lost players, or those who do not have a back-up or save BEFORE the cuts.

[Griever20]

Forget about what I wrote here before

I contined the aforementioned save, it 'kinda' normalized going forward, seems to be a one and done wave... but I will try things out a bit more

[OOTPinstripes]

Originally Posted by Griever20

Yes, after one day in a MLB quickstart, each team has released a whole rookie league team.

My organization just released 59 players overnight despite not being allowed to do so as per my settings. This is definitely a bug.

EDIT: My GCL team is now down to 12 players, and ghost players are disabled. I'm not even sure what to do about this. This is a major, major, major bug.

[pbreen]

Originally Posted by OOTPinstripes

My organization just released 59 players overnight despite not being allowed to do so as per my settings. This is definitely a bug.

EDIT: My GCL team is now down to 12 players, and ghost players are disabled. I'm not even sure what to do about this. This is a major, major, major bug.

It's a game-breaker.

[OOTPinstripes]

Seriously, is there a way to go back to the last patch? This is a disaster.

[pbreen]

Originally Posted by OOTPinstripes

Seriously, is there a way to go back to the last patch? This is a disaster.

I appreciate the updates to the game, but none of them are worth this. I just want to play the game I know, the inflation rate and little fixes are not worth this.

[TomVeal]

Is tt possible that "Fixed where the computer manager could ignore age limits in certain situations" is causing the reported problems? Perhaps the AI erroneously believes that teams aren't observing age limits and is "correcting" the situation.

[mitchkenn]

Originally Posted by OOTPinstripes

Seriously, is there a way to go back to the last patch? This is a disaster.

yes, you can go back .... if you still have the older patch. i don't know that OOTP keeps those somewhere, but they may. you'll also need a back-up of your league - probably made before current patch..

you'll need to unlicense, uninstall with windows (don't delete folders if it asks you). Install the older patch. re-license. Load game - restore from backup.

you will lose anything you've customized. so be certain to save those and reload them as needed.

it works, as i've done it on one patch that didn't work for me. it's a bit of a pain, but it's the only way to go back to an older patch, as just installing it an older patch over the current version will not work.

Good luck.

[pbreen]

Originally Posted by mitchkenn

yes, you can go back .... if you still have the older patch. i don't know that OOTP keeps those somewhere, but they may. you'll also need a back-up of your league.

you'll need to unlicense, uninstall with windows (don't delete folders if it asks you). Install the older patch. re-license. Load game - restore from backup.

it works, as i've done it on one patch that didn't work for me. it's a bit of a pain, but it's the only way to go back to an older patch, as just installing it an older patch over the current version will not work.

Good luck.

You can't do that on Steam, can you?

[MizzouRah]

Ouch... glad I'm out of town this weekend. Will definitely hold off on the patch. In fact, game has played so well, I might never patch again.

[Griever20]

Well, it's a game. Stuff does happen. They will take a look at it tomorrow(remeber, its nearly 10PM on a Saturday over here.)

Originally Posted by TomVeal

Is tt possible that "Fixed where the computer manager could ignore age limits in certain situations" is causing the reported problems? Perhaps the AI erroneously believes that teams aren't observing age limits and is "correcting" the situation.

It seems to be limited to one Rookie League team, and those are sprinkled between DSL,GCL and co.

It isn't rookie league specific either. I changed up all Rookie leagues to Short A leagues and they kept releasing players.

Thing is, I like to sign alot of those 17-19 year old players, because I would never give up on a guy in OOTP that is at least 21... now, it is kinda exploiting the strange behaviour of the game, so I won't play along without a hotfix, and have to revert some things manually in a save...

[Hoiles]

I also see my rookie league team is releasing players even though I didn't give control of minor league releases to the A.I.

[r0nster]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

If you post in the bug reports forum and upload your league files, Matt can have a look at this. In my tests it looks fine, so there's probably a good reason why it does seemingly not work for your team.

Thanks will give it a few more days testing as in closer to deadline

[james17]

Originally Posted by smiller

Is anyone else having the problem I'm having with 3D--the infielders' labels do not disappear when the ball is pitched blocking most of the action, and the ball flutters in the air?

I have not had that problem.