Dodgers-Rays World Series - Page 6

Déjà Bru · 10-25-2020, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CBeisbol

That was fun

Told my brother during the game that it reminded me of 2017 game 5 with the back and forth.

My preferred team lost, but it was a fun game.

The sight of this guy, Brett Phillips, "flying" around the outfield in pure and utter joy is an image that I will long remember. I usually frown on excessive celebratory displays but this moment was so absolutely spontaneous and innocuous that it simply transcends such considerations.

La La La Linoleum · 10-25-2020, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

The sight of this guy, Brett Phillips, "flying" around the outfield in pure and utter joy is an image that I will long remember. I usually frown on excessive celebratory displays but this moment was so absolutely spontaneous and innocuous that it simply transcends such considerations.

Not to mention the fact that he then had to take a sit in the middle of the field for several minutes he was so overwhelmed with emotion and probably trying to contemplate everything that just happened.

Brad K · 10-25-2020, 01:20 PM

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Well, the official scorer still needs convincing.

Is there a rule of only one error being charged per extra base? If so then perhaps the official scorer is evaluating this as Arozarena would have made third without the OF error. The OF error would have allowed him to score had he not fallen. But the fact is he did fall and thus the C error, not the OF error, allowed him to score.

Yet is seems unfair to charge the C instead of the OF since the C had nothing to do with Arozarena falling. Don't know.

Brad K · 10-25-2020, 01:21 PM

By comparison a HR would have been ho hum boring.

CBeisbol · 10-25-2020, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

The sight of this guy, Brett Phillips, "flying" around the outfield in pure and utter joy is an image that I will long remember. I usually frown on excessive celebratory displays but this moment was so absolutely spontaneous and innocuous that it simply transcends such considerations.

How anyone can be against that, I don't understand.

I also didn't care about Bregman carrying the bat to first base. Or Soto, then, carrying the bat to first base. Or the Nationals' "driving celebration" or the Dodgers' bubble machine. Or Ozuna's selfie celebration.

I didn't mind TO celebratinging on the Dallas Star. Or him getting knocked on his [keester] trying to do it again.

I didn't mind Barry Sanders handing the ball to the ref. Or the Icky Shuffle.

Whatever.

Westheim · 10-25-2020, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

The sight of this guy, Brett Phillips, "flying" around the outfield in pure and utter joy is an image that I will long remember. I usually frown on excessive celebratory displays but this moment was so absolutely spontaneous and innocuous that it simply transcends such considerations.

If you're not allowed to go bonkers for a game-winning hit in the World Series, for what then?

Asking for a friend, who's completely bonkers.

thehef · 10-25-2020, 02:05 PM

I feel bad for Jansen, who seemed to have finally found his groove. Tough bottom of the ninth:

K
broken bat bloop hit
fly out
tough/tight walk to Arozarena
bloop hit with (what should have been scored as) two errors to lose the game

At any rate, if the Dodgers analytics machine has a setting for number of pitching changes - like OOTP has a 0-200 setting for Development Randomness - I'm pretty sure Roberts likes to set it at 200.

Will be interesting to see how the snakebitten-in-the-postseason Dodgers rebound from that loss.

Brad K · 10-25-2020, 02:11 PM

Jansen said no hard hits, he did his job. So he's not looking for sympathy. Bad luck and errors met and the Rays won.

CBeisbol · 10-25-2020, 02:26 PM

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Jansen said no hard hits, he did his job. So he's not looking for sympathy. Bad luck and errors met and the Rays won.

He could have backed up home plate

Hitting, pitching, good defense, base running, all those things, and more, also met and were involved in the game outcome

thehef · 10-25-2020, 02:44 PM

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He could have backed up home plate

Very true. However, had he been in position to backup home plate, he likely would've been more directly behind home plate, somewhat shaded to the third base side to align with where the throw from the Muncy was coming, and would not have been anywhere near where the ball actually ended up (much more towards the 1st base side of behind-the-plate foul territory) after deflecting off of Smiths' glove... Doubtful his failure to back up on the play made a difference.

Brad K · 10-25-2020, 03:46 PM

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He could have backed up home plate

Hitting, pitching, good defense, base running, all those things, and more, also met and were involved in the game outcome

I identified the major items that affected Jansen being the loosing pitcher.

CBeisbol · 10-25-2020, 04:18 PM

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I identified the major items that affected Jansen being the loosing pitcher.

Debatable
Certainty not those which made the Rays the winning team

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Bad luck and errors met and the Rays won.

Brad K · 10-25-2020, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CBeisbol

Debatable
Certainty not those which made the Rays the winning team

You'll argue anything. I won't.

CBeisbol · 10-25-2020, 04:33 PM

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You'll argue anything. I won't.

I'll point out the obvious, and unobvious, flaws in things, yes.

Westheim · 10-25-2020, 05:30 PM

Baseball at *one* my time today (summer time ended here). I'll totally not forget that.

I'll totally not forget that.

Guys, I'm probably joining in the fourth inning.

Westheim · 10-25-2020, 08:17 PM

This is going so well again.

Déjà Bru · 10-25-2020, 08:43 PM

Rough: Fox just did a retrospective on Buckner's famous error (was it an official error, come to think of it, or just a misplay?) and, right after it ended, put the two erring Dodgers of last night on the screen.

Wow, Glasnow is "glass now" in the postseason.

Westheim · 10-25-2020, 09:07 PM

Glasnow needs a haircut, and how about RIGHT NOW?

Déjà Bru · 10-25-2020, 09:18 PM

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Glasnow needs a haircut, and how about RIGHT NOW?

Yeah, well, how about Clayton Kershair?

Westheim · 10-25-2020, 09:21 PM

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Yeah, well, how about Clayton Kershair?

Two more hits in the bottom 3rd and they can do a socially distanced appointment together!

10-25-2020, 05:30 PM	#115
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10-25-2020, 08:17 PM	#116
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10-25-2020, 08:43 PM	#117
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,742	Rough: Fox just did a retrospective on Buckner's famous error (was it an official error, come to think of it, or just a misplay?) and, right after it ended, put the two erring Dodgers of last night on the screen. Wow, Glasnow is "glass now" in the postseason. __________________ - Bru

10-25-2020, 09:07 PM	#118
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10-25-2020, 01:21 PM	#104
Brad K Banned Join Date: May 2016 Location: St Petersburg Florida USA Posts: 6,693 Infractions: 0/2 (4)	By comparison a HR would have been ho hum boring.

10-25-2020, 02:05 PM	#107
thehef Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,345	I feel bad for Jansen, who seemed to have finally found his groove. Tough bottom of the ninth: K broken bat bloop hit fly out tough/tight walk to Arozarena bloop hit with (what should have been scored as) two errors to lose the game At any rate, if the Dodgers analytics machine has a setting for number of pitching changes - like OOTP has a 0-200 setting for Development Randomness - I'm pretty sure Roberts likes to set it at 200. Will be interesting to see how the snakebitten-in-the-postseason Dodgers rebound from that loss.

10-25-2020, 02:11 PM	#108
Brad K Banned Join Date: May 2016 Location: St Petersburg Florida USA Posts: 6,693 Infractions: 0/2 (4)	Jansen said no hard hits, he did his job. So he's not looking for sympathy. Bad luck and errors met and the Rays won.