Gambo and T_Wil1 Photopack

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Facepack upgrade and larger, clearer 1926 Indians image for pitchers pack.

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Facepack upgrade and larger, clearer ca. 1923-26 Indians image.

[Bill II]

Solly Hoffman 1903 Pirates

Colorized from a tnfoto pic.

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Facepack upgrade and clearer 1926 Yankees photo.

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Larger, clearer 1926 Yankees image.

[UKBaseballfan]

Facepack upgrade?, courtesy baseball-birthdays.net

Originally Posted by Ctrane

Del Pratt - 1912

A wider view of the Del Pratt image showing the full stop under the T rather that to the right of it would indicate the photo is from his 3 earliest years, i.e. 1912-14. What about the cap though, it does not match those depicted in the unifrom database. Have any of the uniform experts any suggestions or other Browns images from the 1912-14 era with a fully Brown colored cap.

Welcome back Bill !

[Ctrane]

Here's the full image from the Conlon Collection along with
a Gus Williams with the same "T" on the uniform and same plain cap. Unfortunately I don't know where I found it and could'nt find it
today on the web. Since Pratt was on the Browns from 1912-17 and
Williams from 1911-15 the photos must be between 1912 and 1915.
I don't think the "Dressed to Nines" uniform depictions are 100%
correct.

[tnfoto]

Originally Posted by UKBaseballfan

A wider view of the Del Pratt image showing the full stop under the T rather that to the right of it would indicate the photo is from his 3 earliest years, i.e. 1912-14. What about the cap though, it does not match those depicted in the unifrom database. Have any of the uniform experts any suggestions or other Browns images from the 1912-14 era with a fully Brown colored cap.

Originally Posted by Ctrane

Here's the full image from the Conlon Collection along with
a Gus Williams with the same "T" on the uniform and same plain cap. Unfortunately I don't know where I found it and could'nt find it
today on the web. Since Pratt was on the Browns from 1912-17 and
Williams from 1911-15 the photos must be between 1912 and 1915.
I don't think the "Dressed to Nines" uniform depictions are 100%
correct.

Here is Branch Rickey, ca. 1914. The plain brown hat appears to be an alternate road hat.

[Ctrane]

Les Sweetland - 1925

[Bill II]

Originally Posted by Ctrane

Here's the full image from the Conlon Collection along with
a Gus Williams with the same "T" on the uniform and same plain cap. Unfortunately I don't know where I found it and could'nt find it
today on the web. Since Pratt was on the Browns from 1912-17 and
Williams from 1911-15 the photos must be between 1912 and 1915.
I don't think the "Dressed to Nines" uniform depictions are 100%
correct.

I've read that teams held on to older uniforms to use for things like practice games & spring training. So that can through things off.

[Bill II]

Originally Posted by UKBaseballfan

Welcome back Bill !

Thanks Nigel!

[rrb77]

Originally Posted by Ctrane

Here's the full image from the Conlon Collection along with
a Gus Williams with the same "T" on the uniform and same plain cap. Unfortunately I don't know where I found it and could'nt find it
today on the web. Since Pratt was on the Browns from 1912-17 and
Williams from 1911-15 the photos must be between 1912 and 1915.
I don't think the "Dressed to Nines" uniform depictions are 100%
correct.

The Conlon Collection link here has this photo and many more quality photos from the 20's,30's. Collection of Charles Conlon photographs

[Ctrane]

Claude Willoughby - 1925

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1931 Senators.

[UKBaseballfan]

Facepack upgrade, ca Indians 1922-27

Originally Posted by tnfoto

Here is Branch Rickey, ca. 1914. The plain brown hat appears to be an alternate road hat.

Thanks for all the feedback in respect of the Browns cap. The Rickey photo would seem to pinpoint the use of the plain Brown cap for road uniforms to 1914. It is good to collate together evidence that can challenge, and upgrade the accuracy of the uniform database. I note the Willoughby photo also questions the accuracy of the uniform database, most probably the Phillies road cap for 1926.

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[Ctrane]

Originally Posted by UKBaseballfan

Facepack upgrade, ca Indians 1922-27



Thanks for all the feedback in respect of the Browns cap. The Rickey photo would seem to pinpoint the use of the plain Brown cap for road uniforms to 1914. It is good to collate together evidence that can challenge, and upgrade the accuracy of the uniform database. I note the Willoughby photo also questions the accuracy of the uniform database, most probably the Phillies road cap for 1926.

There is no matching Phillies cap on "Dressed to the Nines"
The style of the "P" does exactly match the red "P's" on the
white hats so it has to a Phillies uniform.
It's also too light to be red in color.

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1989 Giants.

Note that Steels is listed as James_Steels in the batters pack.

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Red Sox Uni 1928 -Upgrade-Clearer image