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Old 06-02-2021, 07:13 AM   #1521
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The Patriots finally catch their first major break of PT22, as they pull a 99 Andrelton Simmons and end up selling for 200k. Management are holding an emergency meeting inside a small child's playhouse to figure out what to do with it.

Also, it has come to my attention that I never removed FL Leody Taveras from my roster until now. He went incognito on the roster last season as well, so I would like to request the forfeiture of all wins from last season as well as the potential omission of all OL wins that Taveras participated in so far this season. (He has participated in 17 OL games: 2 @ Gettysburg, 3 @ Route 66, 6 vs Left Coast, 4 @ Left Coast, and 2 vs South Holland). If that complicates things significantly, I offer you the option of omitting the Patriots from this season's OL standings as well.

Taveras has been removed from the main roster and left to rot on the inactives in order for the Patriots to become re-compliant with OL rules and regulations.
Thanks for the heads up.
I'm not sure what we can do about correcting last season, but for this season we will just not count those games in which he played at all, which is what we have always done in the past. We need only be concerned about the games in which he actually played.

What we need to have to isolate the games is to know which series came in which season. In 2029, New York played in 20 OL games and have only played 10 OL games this season, Need to know which is which.


Thankfully, Shinbone won by such a large margin, I don't think it affected the crown chase.

Addendum: Looking at teams involved, none were against teams that would have any effect on Shinbone's triumph.

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Old 06-02-2021, 07:26 AM   #1522
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Once we have identified which games for this season will not be counted, please pull them out of the standing in iron as though they weren't played. Forfeits are not something we've ever dealt with, so, unless there is a groundswell of support or an outcry for such a contingency, there seems to be no reason to change our way of doing things. Thanks, rev. By the way, if it turns out to be easier, just make a note of the games and subtract them out of the final standings.
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Old 06-02-2021, 08:52 AM   #1523
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No OL games to add today so I will just repeat yesterday's standings. Lots of games coming up though. In the league Paxville and Boulder City are in the wildcard race while the Crakes are in relegation territory.
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Old 06-02-2021, 09:40 AM   #1524
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Once we have identified which games for this season will not be counted, please pull them out of the standing in iron as though they weren't played. Forfeits are not something we've ever dealt with, so, unless there is a groundswell of support or an outcry for such a contingency, there seems to be no reason to change our way of doing things. Thanks, rev. By the way, if it turns out to be easier, just make a note of the games and subtract them out of the final standings.
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Old 06-02-2021, 09:56 AM   #1525
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Iron Maiden is the official leader in OL R99. Neither Shoebox nor Gear Terrace will finish with enough OL games to qualify for the title. The three contending teams look to stay close throughout the season.
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Old 06-02-2021, 10:02 AM   #1526
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OL standings in D366

Here are the standings 1/3 of the way through the season (interesting that we are now at about the same point of the season as "real" baseball):

Cary Southpaws: 5-2
Lemp Ave. Perfectos: 7-6
Nowhere Men: 0-0
Cedar Rapid Reds: 5-6
Annandale Atom Smashers: 0-3

As mentioned earlier, even though Nowhere Men haven't seen action yet, all teams will have enough games to qualify for crown.

From a playoff perspective, no teams are in playoff position if the season ended today, although Cary is only a game behind second wild card position. Cedar Rapids is currently in Relegation position, with Annandale only a game above last relegation postiion. Of course, a lot could change between now and end-of-season.
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Old 06-02-2021, 10:28 AM   #1527
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Roster mistakes have given Left Coast the early lead in OL I219. Benefitting from four forfeited contests* with New York, the Labrats sport a perfect OL record. Meanwhile, the Patriots have plummeted to the depths of OL.



* Final tally of forfeits:
Left Coast - 4
South Holland - 1
Route 66 - 1
Gettysburg - 1
All other games that Taveras participated in were already losses for the Patriots.
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Old 06-02-2021, 12:00 PM   #1528
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Roster mistakes have given Left Coast the early lead in OL I219. Benefitting from four forfeited contests* with New York, the Labrats sport a perfect OL record. Meanwhile, the Patriots have plummeted to the depths of OL.



* Final tally of forfeits:
Left Coast - 4
South Holland - 1
Route 66 - 1
Gettysburg - 1
All other games that Taveras participated in were already losses for the Patriots.
While I like being in the lead, are forfeits counting as Wins, or as null games. I would be tempted towards the latter for fairness.
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Old 06-02-2021, 12:23 PM   #1529
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While I like being in the lead, are forfeits counting as Wins, or as null games. I would be tempted towards the latter for fairness.
It was a Magus oversight that caused the invalid rosters, and as such I feel they are counted properly as Patriots losses. Game error would be cause to wiping the contests as a whole, but human error should be punished, accidental or not.

Weeks of neglect caused this failure of awareness on my part, and so it is my responsibility and the punishment is fair and just.
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So I am putting together a team that i think would fit in well with this group, is it possible to join in next season?
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Old 06-02-2021, 04:25 PM   #1531
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The Patriots continued their good luck with 18 packs and two live perfects, who were then parlayed into buying a cut-priced 100 Darryl Kile. They then completed 7 packs worth of collections, and pulled a 100 Brian McCann out of them. These will not help them escape the abyss this season, but could set them up nicely to challenge for a crown in 2031.

Up until now, the only perfect the Patriots have ever pulled was in the dying days of PT20 and it was a live Rendon.
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Old 06-02-2021, 05:27 PM   #1532
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Up until now, the only perfect the Patriots have ever pulled was in the dying days of PT20 and it was a live Rendon.

Tell me about it, lol. last year I pulled 8 (I think) 100's - this year a total of 3 Diamonds.
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It was a Magus oversight that caused the invalid rosters, and as such I feel they are counted properly as Patriots losses. Game error would be cause to wiping the contests as a whole, but human error should be punished, accidental or not.

Weeks of neglect caused this failure of awareness on my part, and so it is my responsibility and the punishment is fair and just.
My understanding of forfeits has always been as losses, but - the Magus self-flagellation notwithstanding...and that provides an unwelcome mental image - I am willing to account for the forfeits in whatever way the OL would like.
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Old 06-02-2021, 09:35 PM   #1534
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My understanding of forfeits has always been as losses, but - the Magus self-flagellation notwithstanding...and that provides an unwelcome mental image - I am willing to account for the forfeits in whatever way the OL would like.
*looks up self-flagellation*

Ah...so that's what it means.

Pain brought upon us now, will be reciprocated onto those who stand in the Patriots way later. A crown is coming for us. Not this season, but very soon.
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My understanding of forfeits has always been as losses, but - the Magus self-flagellation notwithstanding...and that provides an unwelcome mental image - I am willing to account for the forfeits in whatever way the OL would like.

In the past, we have just removed the offending games from the schedule, not counting them at all. This would apply to the Patriots wins, since there is no wish to punish a team that has won a game.

There has never been any thought of forfeiture of wins, and the negative implications of some sort of "punishment." We are a friendly group, built on the honor system, and forgiving of misteaks.


In essence, the games the Patriots won with an ineligible player being used in the game would be removed from the records of each participating team. If the ineligible player was merely on the roster, and did not play, the game can stand. That it is why it would necessary for Magus, or someone, to go back and check the games the Patriots won.


Any flogging of Magus, whether or not self-inflicted, is a private matter.
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So I am putting together a team that i think would fit in well with this group, is it possible to join in next season?

You would be quite welcome. Just go to the beginning of this thread to make sure your team fits into the league, and that the league fits you. There is a link to the sheet with the friends list on it it, or you could go to the universe managers screen and search the user name box using -OL|- OL and add as friends anybody within a level or you either way, and continuing to move outward until you fill up your list. Then make sure to select use friends list and submit your team.


Then just post your team and user name on this thread. I would also ask that you post a copy of your team's logo for use in attaching crowns later on.


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Old 06-03-2021, 05:38 AM   #1537
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Shinbone finally dropped a game but still leads with Gem City the only other team above .500. Only 26 OL games in the second half, so every game is going to count.

At the halfway point of the PT season, Gem City, Keystone and Shinbone lead their divisions while Baltimore holds down a WC spot. No team is currently in danger of relegation.
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Port Ruppert Maintains Slim Lead in OL S272

The Mundys continued to play at a .700 pace and clung to a small lead over Waffletown and Boston, at the top of the backstretch.
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It is a topsy turvy world in Gold this week. Silly Mad Brewers continue to dominate the OL standings with Paxville Kings now in last place. Plenty of games left to play (except for the title exempt Boulder City).

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In Gold League play Paxville is in a wildcard place and are doing the best of all OL teams (Texarkana are also in the wild card hunt). Boulder City and Helthwyzer are both in a relegation battle.
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In the past, we have just removed the offending games from the schedule, not counting them at all. This would apply to the Patriots wins, since there is no wish to punish a team that has won a game.

There has never been any thought of forfeiture of wins, and the negative implications of some sort of "punishment." We are a friendly group, built on the honor system, and forgiving of misteaks.


In essence, the games the Patriots won with an ineligible player being used in the game would be removed from the records of each participating team. If the ineligible player was merely on the roster, and did not play, the game can stand. That it is why it would necessary for Magus, or someone, to go back and check the games the Patriots won.


Any flogging of Magus, whether or not self-inflicted, is a private matter.
Sounds good. Games are voided, not actually forfeited. Games the Patriots won with Taveras in the lineup have already been identified and will be reflected in standings update. Coming soon.
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