Dodgers-Rays World Series - Page 9

Westheim · 10-27-2020, 09:45 PM

I want that Chubby Korean montage to be played at my funeral.

Déjà Bru · 10-27-2020, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Westheim

Ji-man Choi has no "weakness"!

All parts of him are equally chubby!

(noms donut entirely ignorant to the fact of having the same general body shape without the baseball talent)

LOL, the segment of him doing his balletic leaps, stretches, and splits to the accompaniment of music from The Nutcracker.

Déjà Bru · 10-27-2020, 10:02 PM

The Dodgers are definitely not passing the Snell test!

CBeisbol · 10-27-2020, 10:22 PM

Snell wasn't pulled because of the hit
But because it's the third time through the order

I hope the Dodgers pound this bullpen and everyone complains about taking out a pitcher who was dealing.

Déjà Bru · 10-27-2020, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CBeisbol

I hope the Dodgers pound this bullpen and everyone complains about taking out a pitcher who was dealing.

You are about to get your wish. I am never an advocate of pulling a dominant pitcher who has thrown only 73 pitches, no matter what today's advanced analysis says. "Ooops."

Hoiles · 10-27-2020, 10:35 PM

They probably should have factored in the 2 hit shutout and minimal pitch count from recent Cy Young winner into the strategy sheets. If I was a TB fan I would be PISSED

neugey · 10-27-2020, 10:47 PM

Managing scared or hokey analytics? Either way -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wiz0UsBPac

Magus978 · 10-27-2020, 10:51 PM

Kevin Cash has out-Dave Roberts'd Dave Roberts.

That takes talent. He's learning a harsh lesson tonight in that sometimes you just have to let it ride instead of clinging to analytics.

Westheim · 10-27-2020, 11:08 PM

(looks like all hope is already gone)

dkgo · 10-27-2020, 11:15 PM

Can't wait for all the hot takes about how "analytics" are wrong when instead it's the use of them that is (arguably) wrong.

Data shows that the batters will generally perform better the third time they see a pitcher, true.

That does not mean anyone advocates a hard and fast rule to "always do this" or "never do that" for each situation.

Westheim · 10-27-2020, 11:19 PM

(gargling noises of an obese raccoon drowning in a barrel of lemonade as Mookie Betts hits a window dressing homer to Tucumcari, New Mexico)

CBeisbol · 10-27-2020, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by neugey

Managing scared or hokey analytics?

Leaving him in would have been managing scared

Scared to make and move and scared to take the criticism.

Leaving him in is easy

MBarrett · 10-27-2020, 11:34 PM

I'm not gonna question Cash's decision to pull Snell, but I absolutely will criticize him for the reliever he brought in! If you're gonna pull Snell there you gotta bring in someone that can get outs and not the coldest pitcher currently on the Ray's roster. Terrible call.

Déjà Bru · 10-27-2020, 11:38 PM

I'm happy for the Dodgers - they deserved to win in more ways than one - but I cannot help feeling bad for a scrappy and deserving team like the Rays. One bad managerial decision from a deciding Game 7; sorry, but that is what it boils down to in hindsight now. That is how history will view this result.

Westheim · 10-27-2020, 11:41 PM

Well, turns out you can't actually win a title with one (1) guy hitting and a Chubby Korean doing the splits.

Ugh, I have to flick this off. Corey Seager's contemptible face makes me nauseous.

dkgo · 10-27-2020, 11:43 PM

The Rays scored one run against a motley collection of bullpen arms. That's not a "deserving" performance and a bigger contribution than the Snell decision.

CBeisbol · 10-27-2020, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dkgo

The Rays scored one run against a motley collection of bullpen arms. That's not a "deserving" performance and a bigger contribution than the Snell decision.

Or a "motley collection of bullpen arms" is an effective way to get outs

Hoiles · 10-27-2020, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CBeisbol

Leaving him in would have been managing scared

Scared to make and move and scared to take the criticism.

Leaving him in is easy

Meh, he was probably scared of the guys in the front office Instead. Didn’t work this time.

CBeisbol · 10-28-2020, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoiles

Meh, he was probably scared of the guys in the front office Instead. Didn’t work this time.

Yeah.
I imagine going rogue in the World Series might have some repercussions from your bosses.

dkgo · 10-28-2020, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CBeisbol

Or a "motley collection of bullpen arms" is an effective way to get outs

I would set the expectation at over one run allowed though

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10-27-2020, 10:02 PM	#163
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,742	The Dodgers are definitely not passing the Snell test! __________________ - Bru

10-27-2020, 10:35 PM	#166
Hoiles All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 574	They probably should have factored in the 2 hit shutout and minimal pitch count from recent Cy Young winner into the strategy sheets. If I was a TB fan I would be PISSED Last edited by Hoiles; 10-27-2020 at 10:38 PM.

10-27-2020, 10:47 PM	#167
neugey All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 805	Managing scared or hokey analytics? Either way - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wiz0UsBPac __________________ Online OOTP League Play: PBA - Cincinnati Reds MLM - Baltimore Orioles

10-27-2020, 10:51 PM	#168
Magus978 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Behind you. BOO! Posts: 1,894	Kevin Cash has out-Dave Roberts'd Dave Roberts. That takes talent. He's learning a harsh lesson tonight in that sometimes you just have to let it ride instead of clinging to analytics. __________________ Never forgive, never forget. http://twitch.tv/GanbaMagus

10-27-2020, 10:22 PM	#164
CBeisbol Banned Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Ban land in 3...2... Posts: 2,943	Snell wasn't pulled because of the hit But because it's the third time through the order I hope the Dodgers pound this bullpen and everyone complains about taking out a pitcher who was dealing.

10-27-2020, 11:08 PM	#169
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 13,829	(looks like all hope is already gone) __________________ Portland Raccoons, 92 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

10-27-2020, 11:15 PM	#170
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	Can't wait for all the hot takes about how "analytics" are wrong when instead it's the use of them that is (arguably) wrong. Data shows that the batters will generally perform better the third time they see a pitcher, true. That does not mean anyone advocates a hard and fast rule to "always do this" or "never do that" for each situation.

10-27-2020, 11:19 PM	#171
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 13,829	(gargling noises of an obese raccoon drowning in a barrel of lemonade as Mookie Betts hits a window dressing homer to Tucumcari, New Mexico) __________________ Portland Raccoons, 92 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

10-27-2020, 11:34 PM	#173
MBarrett All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 627	I'm not gonna question Cash's decision to pull Snell, but I absolutely will criticize him for the reliever he brought in! If you're gonna pull Snell there you gotta bring in someone that can get outs and not the coldest pitcher currently on the Ray's roster. Terrible call.

10-27-2020, 11:38 PM	#174
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,742	I'm happy for the Dodgers - they deserved to win in more ways than one - but I cannot help feeling bad for a scrappy and deserving team like the Rays. One bad managerial decision from a deciding Game 7; sorry, but that is what it boils down to in hindsight now. That is how history will view this result. __________________ - Bru

10-27-2020, 11:41 PM	#175
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 13,829	Well, turns out you can't actually win a title with one (1) guy hitting and a Chubby Korean doing the splits. Ugh, I have to flick this off. Corey Seager's contemptible face makes me nauseous. __________________ Portland Raccoons, 92 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

10-27-2020, 11:43 PM	#176
dkgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,152	The Rays scored one run against a motley collection of bullpen arms. That's not a "deserving" performance and a bigger contribution than the Snell decision.