Forced demotion/release of players at playoff time?

deejub · 09-01-2021, 05:21 PM

So the 2021 Mets are in the playoffs (because this isn't real life

). On 9/1, I added two players to the roster as allowed for September -- one callup and Noah Syndergaard coming off the DL after rehab. This left me with six starting pitchers on the roster: DeGrom, Carrasco, Kluber (traded for), Stroman, Walker, and Syndergaard. For the playoffs I only need four starters, so I want to leave Carrasco and one of the others off the playoff roster to get to 26. But I can find no option to leave a player off the playoff roster -- rather I see only options to demote or release, and Carrasco (and some others) refuse to be demoted. Unless I am missing something, this is a bug, and a rather serious one if one is playing more than one season.

Lexlogan8 · 10-23-2021, 12:16 PM

Interesting. I was not aware that, in real life, veteran players could simply be left off the playoff roster. Can you point me to an example? Lookiing at the playoff roster rules at MLB.com they specify who can be on the roster but make no mention of what happens to vetern players left off. It does seem that the playoff roster is seperate from the regular roster, I just never thought about it.

Lexlogan8 · 10-23-2021, 12:22 PM

Another point: are you using OOTP GO or just OOTP? Because in my version as well as MLB Manager 2015, I've always been able to demote any veteran I wanted to the minors, regardless or contract or injury status. Pretty unrealistic. I assume this was to avoid implementing the full 40 man roster rules but really, the game could capture most of the effect of the 40 man rule by not allowing players who have ML contracts other than arbitration to be demoted. Just as bad is that I can't replace a player injured during a playoff series -- one of these years I'm going to have both catchers injured or three starting pitchers or some such disaster.

JRaup · 10-23-2021, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lexlogan8

Interesting. I was not aware that, in real life, veteran players could simply be left off the playoff roster. Can you point me to an example? Lookiing at the playoff roster rules at MLB.com they specify who can be on the roster but make no mention of what happens to vetern players left off. It does seem that the playoff roster is seperate from the regular roster, I just never thought about it.

Happens all the time. In this current post season, for example, the Red Sox left JD Martinez off the active roster for the WC game. Matt Barnes was off for the ALCS. They were still on the 40 man, but not on the 26 active roster.

snarls200 · 10-23-2021, 08:40 PM

Also David price originally was not on Dodgers NLCS roster.

Lexlogan8 · 10-23-2021, 10:09 PM

Thanks. Then the problem as far as the game goes is that players must be placed somewhere, and the game has not implemented a place for players on the 40 man roster who are neither on the active roster nor the minors. But unless this has been changed in a patch I haven't installed, doesn't OOTP GO allow any player to be demoted to the minors?

Matt Arnold · 10-25-2021, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lexlogan8

Thanks. Then the problem as far as the game goes is that players must be placed somewhere, and the game has not implemented a place for players on the 40 man roster who are neither on the active roster nor the minors. But unless this has been changed in a patch I haven't installed, doesn't OOTP GO allow any player to be demoted to the minors?

It depends on the options you have selected. Some of the roster rules are disabled by default on GO.

If you are using the playoff roster rules, then you can specify a separate "playoff roster" and regular roster, so you can easily leave players off the playoff roster. However, if you do not have the playoff roster rules enabled, then anyone not on the playoff roster would have to be sent to the minors.

esb1981 · 12-07-2021, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

It depends on the options you have selected. Some of the roster rules are disabled by default on GO.

If you are using the playoff roster rules, then you can specify a separate "playoff roster" and regular roster, so you can easily leave players off the playoff roster. However, if you do not have the playoff roster rules enabled, then anyone not on the playoff roster would have to be sent to the minors.

Interesting; I did not realize the playoff rosters function is available now in GO. Was it added in a recent patch?

DaBears · 08-21-2022, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

It depends on the options you have selected. Some of the roster rules are disabled by default on GO.

If you are using the playoff roster rules, then you can specify a separate "playoff roster" and regular roster, so you can easily leave players off the playoff roster. However, if you do not have the playoff roster rules enabled, then anyone not on the playoff roster would have to be sent to the minors.

Matt - Looking back through the board for insight on playoff roster issue as I ran into this exact issue. How do you enable/disable the setting you mentioned in this post? Thx.

09-01-2021, 05:21 PM	#1
deejub Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2021 Posts: 6	Forced demotion/release of players at playoff time? So the 2021 Mets are in the playoffs (because this isn't real life ). On 9/1, I added two players to the roster as allowed for September -- one callup and Noah Syndergaard coming off the DL after rehab. This left me with six starting pitchers on the roster: DeGrom, Carrasco, Kluber (traded for), Stroman, Walker, and Syndergaard. For the playoffs I only need four starters, so I want to leave Carrasco and one of the others off the playoff roster to get to 26. But I can find no option to leave a player off the playoff roster -- rather I see only options to demote or release, and Carrasco (and some others) refuse to be demoted. Unless I am missing something, this is a bug, and a rather serious one if one is playing more than one season.

10-23-2021, 12:16 PM	#2
Lexlogan8 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 22	Interesting. I was not aware that, in real life, veteran players could simply be left off the playoff roster. Can you point me to an example? Lookiing at the playoff roster rules at MLB.com they specify who can be on the roster but make no mention of what happens to vetern players left off. It does seem that the playoff roster is seperate from the regular roster, I just never thought about it.

10-23-2021, 12:22 PM	#3
Lexlogan8 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 22	Another point: are you using OOTP GO or just OOTP? Because in my version as well as MLB Manager 2015, I've always been able to demote any veteran I wanted to the minors, regardless or contract or injury status. Pretty unrealistic. I assume this was to avoid implementing the full 40 man roster rules but really, the game could capture most of the effect of the 40 man rule by not allowing players who have ML contracts other than arbitration to be demoted. Just as bad is that I can't replace a player injured during a playoff series -- one of these years I'm going to have both catchers injured or three starting pitchers or some such disaster.

10-23-2021, 08:40 PM	#5
snarls200 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 520	Also David price originally was not on Dodgers NLCS roster.

10-23-2021, 10:09 PM	#6
Lexlogan8 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 22	Thanks. Then the problem as far as the game goes is that players must be placed somewhere, and the game has not implemented a place for players on the 40 man roster who are neither on the active roster nor the minors. But unless this has been changed in a patch I haven't installed, doesn't OOTP GO allow any player to be demoted to the minors?