Inside the park home runs

stltduggan · 05-23-2016, 05:09 PM

I have started an historical league beginning in 1901 but using today's 3-d ballparks because I like them. The problem is that I have usually 3 to 4 inside the park home runs per game which I am assuming is because of the historical data from the early 1900's. Is there any way to adjust down the ITPHR's without getting rid of the over the wall HR"s?

MightyVotto · 05-23-2016, 05:37 PM

I've seen this in a lot of the historical ballparks throughout the first half of the 20th century. I don't think it's a bug or anything. It's just that those ballparks tended to have some crazy dimensions that we don't see these days. Yankee Stadium was something like 475 ft. in left-center field. I just accept the fact that the game is trying to give a home run but, because of the crazy dimensions, it has to be an ITPHR. Fortunately, there isn't really a statistical distinction between a normal HR and an ITPHR. It's more like just a representational distinction in-game.I just laugh a little when I see a high frequency in the early games and move on. I do think I remember seeing somewhere that a large percentage of the HR's hit in the deadball era were ITPer's, So, it might not be too far off.

stltduggan · 05-23-2016, 06:01 PM

Thanks for your reply I kind of figured that was the case just wondering if there was any way to adjust it. It is kind of funny since I use historical players from all era's seeing Giancarlo Stanton, Babe Ruth and yes Joey Votto running around the bases like crazy while the outfielder is holding the ball. I am sure as this league moves more away from the dead ball they will diminish.

Reed · 05-25-2016, 07:09 PM

I play dead ball era with 3D and modern stadiums (not random debut) and I only see a couple inside the park HRs a WEEK. My seasons HR totals are close to real life totals. Most of my teams average around 25 HRs PER year. Your teams must be averaging 300 HRs per runs per year. Weird.

stltduggan · 05-26-2016, 04:45 PM

Yeah my teams are averaging more than 25 home runs. Since I am using historical players from all era's I am constantly playing around with the yearly modifiers to try and give the traditional home run hitters (Ruth, Mays, Stanton etc.) a chance to hit numbers more like what they actually produced. I make a lot of in season adjustments and chart all of them. The only difference I notice is in the middle tier power hitters sometimes have an unusually big year, say 40 home runs, when the most they ever hit may have been 25 in real life. The non power guys like my shortstop only had 1 home run this year so it doesn.t seem to effect them too much.

05-23-2016, 05:09 PM	#1
stltduggan Bat Boy Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 6	Inside the park home runs I have started an historical league beginning in 1901 but using today's 3-d ballparks because I like them. The problem is that I have usually 3 to 4 inside the park home runs per game which I am assuming is because of the historical data from the early 1900's. Is there any way to adjust down the ITPHR's without getting rid of the over the wall HR"s?

05-23-2016, 06:01 PM	#3
stltduggan Bat Boy Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 6	Thanks MightyVotto Thanks for your reply I kind of figured that was the case just wondering if there was any way to adjust it. It is kind of funny since I use historical players from all era's seeing Giancarlo Stanton, Babe Ruth and yes Joey Votto running around the bases like crazy while the outfielder is holding the ball. I am sure as this league moves more away from the dead ball they will diminish. Last edited by stltduggan; 05-24-2016 at 12:48 AM.

05-26-2016, 04:45 PM	#5
stltduggan Bat Boy Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 6	Thanks for the reply Reed Yeah my teams are averaging more than 25 home runs. Since I am using historical players from all era's I am constantly playing around with the yearly modifiers to try and give the traditional home run hitters (Ruth, Mays, Stanton etc.) a chance to hit numbers more like what they actually produced. I make a lot of in season adjustments and chart all of them. The only difference I notice is in the middle tier power hitters sometimes have an unusually big year, say 40 home runs, when the most they ever hit may have been 25 in real life. The non power guys like my shortstop only had 1 home run this year so it doesn.t seem to effect them too much.

05-23-2016, 05:37 PM	#2
MightyVotto Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 125	I've seen this in a lot of the historical ballparks throughout the first half of the 20th century. I don't think it's a bug or anything. It's just that those ballparks tended to have some crazy dimensions that we don't see these days. Yankee Stadium was something like 475 ft. in left-center field. I just accept the fact that the game is trying to give a home run but, because of the crazy dimensions, it has to be an ITPHR. Fortunately, there isn't really a statistical distinction between a normal HR and an ITPHR. It's more like just a representational distinction in-game.I just laugh a little when I see a high frequency in the early games and move on. I do think I remember seeing somewhere that a large percentage of the HR's hit in the deadball era were ITPer's, So, it might not be too far off.

05-25-2016, 07:09 PM	#4
Reed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 2,339	I play dead ball era with 3D and modern stadiums (not random debut) and I only see a couple inside the park HRs a WEEK. My seasons HR totals are close to real life totals. Most of my teams average around 25 HRs PER year. Your teams must be averaging 300 HRs per runs per year. Weird.