Historical league question- replicating franchise moves

Dukie98 · 06-05-2016, 11:22 AM

I am in a historical league starting in 1902. I want to have actual historic changes to the league structure (i.e. franchise relocations, changes to team nicknames, stadiums, expansion etc.) take place without having to manually edit them from year to year. I'm now at the start of my second season.

I have the "Historical Year" set to 1903 and the "automatically expand league" option checked. I am now in 1903 Spring Training, and it hasn't accounted for Baltimore's move to NY to become the Highlanders (and ultimately, the Yankees). Is there something else I need to do? Thanks.

BigRed75 · 06-05-2016, 12:10 PM

Weird, because it should have done that right after the 1902 season.

Out of curiosity, what exactly do you mean by "I have the historical year set to 1903"? Did you do something manually to get it to 1903 or did you just let the game play out?

Dukie98 · 06-05-2016, 12:53 PM

It's on the "Historical Progressing Settings" header, on the Game Settings/ League Settings/ Historical tab. I *think* it automatically updated after the last season, but I may have manually moved it from 1902 after the last season.

For the "automatically expand league" option- I'm not certain if it was checked when the last season ended, but I know I selected it before the end of the 1902 calendar year. If I play out 1903 without accounting for the Baltimore/ New York move, is it likely that it will automatically do so for 1904? Thanks.

dmacgreg37 · 06-05-2016, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dukie98

It's on the "Historical Progressing Settings" header, on the Game Settings/ League Settings/ Historical tab. I *think* it automatically updated after the last season, but I may have manually moved it from 1902 after the last season.

For the "automatically expand league" option- I'm not certain if it was checked when the last season ended, but I know I selected it before the end of the 1902 calendar year. If I play out 1903 without accounting for the Baltimore/ New York move, is it likely that it will automatically do so for 1904? Thanks.

I don't think it will.

If you miss an event, in my experience, the chain is broken. In fact, when I did something similar, once turned off and missed, the expand never worked again for me.

BigRed75 · 06-05-2016, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dukie98

It's on the "Historical Progressing Settings" header, on the Game Settings/ League Settings/ Historical tab. I *think* it automatically updated after the last season, but I may have manually moved it from 1902 after the last season.

For the "automatically expand league" option- I'm not certain if it was checked when the last season ended, but I know I selected it before the end of the 1902 calendar year. If I play out 1903 without accounting for the Baltimore/ New York move, is it likely that it will automatically do so for 1904? Thanks.

That could be it. When I was doing a historical progression league earlier this year, they moved the franchises pretty much the day the offseason began, which is the day after the season ended. If you didn't have the box ticked then, I don't think it would work.

However, historical evolution uses the teams.csv file. This is why if you have historical evolution on, and make your own changes to team names, they revert back the next year. So you *should* be fine in 1904.

Dukie98 · 06-05-2016, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRed75

That could be it. When I was doing a historical progression league earlier this year, they moved the franchises pretty much the day the offseason began, which is the day after the season ended. If you didn't have the box ticked then, I don't think it would work.

However, historical evolution uses the teams.csv file. This is why if you have historical evolution on, and make your own changes to team names, they revert back the next year. So you *should* be fine in 1904.

Thanks- I hope you're right!

mitchkenn · 06-05-2016, 08:04 PM

you COULD start the same league over (with a new name) and see if it updates correctly. ( when i do that, i simply call it a test 1 or something along those lines, and after i find out what i am testing for - i can delete that or try something different with it.) dunno - just a thought ..... good luck.

Dukie98 · 06-06-2016, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mitchkenn

you COULD start the same league over (with a new name) and see if it updates correctly. ( when i do that, i simply call it a test 1 or something along those lines, and after i find out what i am testing for - i can delete that or try something different with it.) dunno - just a thought ..... good luck.

Good idea- thanks. I tried doing a test league along the same lines, and it appeared to fix the franchise locations (as well as team nicknames) for 1904. It looks like the Yankees will exist, after all, in my league.

06-05-2016, 11:22 AM	#1
Dukie98 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 902	Historical league question- replicating franchise moves I am in a historical league starting in 1902. I want to have actual historic changes to the league structure (i.e. franchise relocations, changes to team nicknames, stadiums, expansion etc.) take place without having to manually edit them from year to year. I'm now at the start of my second season. I have the "Historical Year" set to 1903 and the "automatically expand league" option checked. I am now in 1903 Spring Training, and it hasn't accounted for Baltimore's move to NY to become the Highlanders (and ultimately, the Yankees). Is there something else I need to do? Thanks.

06-05-2016, 12:10 PM	#2
BigRed75 Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,430	Weird, because it should have done that right after the 1902 season. Out of curiosity, what exactly do you mean by "I have the historical year set to 1903"? Did you do something manually to get it to 1903 or did you just let the game play out? __________________ Mainline team SPTT team Was not a Snag fan...until I saw the fallout once he was gone and realized what a good job he was actually doing. - Ty Cobb

06-05-2016, 08:04 PM	#7
mitchkenn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Oregon, not by design Posts: 2,872	you COULD start the same league over (with a new name) and see if it updates correctly. ( when i do that, i simply call it a test 1 or something along those lines, and after i find out what i am testing for - i can delete that or try something different with it.) dunno - just a thought ..... good luck. __________________ "This is my opening farewell " - Jackson Browne “They make a desolation and call it peace.” ― Agha Shahid Ali "Maybe she just has to sing, for the sake of the song - And who do I think that I am to decide that she's wrong." - Townes Van Zandt "I saw a young man leaning on his wooden crutch - He called out to me, 'Don't ask for so much' And a young woman leaning in her darkened door She cried out to me, 'Why not ask for more?' " - Leonard Cohen "Hello darkness, my old Friend ...." - Paul Simon Before Mays, before DiMaggio, there was Oscar Charleston. "All the lies about Babe Ruth are true." - Waite Hoyt Avatar is the late great Townes Van Zandt. rip.

06-05-2016, 12:53 PM	#3
Dukie98 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 902	It's on the "Historical Progressing Settings" header, on the Game Settings/ League Settings/ Historical tab. I think it automatically updated after the last season, but I may have manually moved it from 1902 after the last season. For the "automatically expand league" option- I'm not certain if it was checked when the last season ended, but I know I selected it before the end of the 1902 calendar year. If I play out 1903 without accounting for the Baltimore/ New York move, is it likely that it will automatically do so for 1904? Thanks.