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Old 04-20-2020, 07:58 PM   #1
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How do position players fatigue/tire in tournaments

I can see on Starting and Relief Pitchers that they have the Stamina rating.

However, I see positions players tire at much different paces. What is the rating that determines how fast/slow a position player gets tired or fatigued?

In my original post I wasnt clear that I was asking specifically about fatigue and resting in tournaments. At least for my teams it seems to be a major issue even with having 4 utility players on the roster as backups.

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Old 04-21-2020, 06:44 AM   #2
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Position player fatigue is driven primarily by games and innings played.

Fatigue for pitchers is driven primarily by the number of pitches thrown in the past five days, together with the pitcher's Stamina rating.

Be cautious about your pitcher-batter roster balance - if you have too few of one or the other, the fatigue effects will hurt more than having an extra bench player will help.
This applies to using fewer than 5 starting pitchers as well.

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Old 04-21-2020, 11:24 AM   #3
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In Perfect Team, it is based only on position played. Apparently, after a certain number of consecutive games of play (depending on position), a player needs rest. This results in the following games played over the course of a 162-game season if they are not platooned:

DH: 162
1B: 157-158
All others: 152-153
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Old 04-21-2020, 01:16 PM   #4
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In Perfect Team, it is based only on position played. Apparently, after a certain number of consecutive games of play (depending on position), a player needs rest. This results in the following games played over the course of a 162-game season if they are not platooned:

DH: 162
1B: 157-158
All others: 152-153
So youre saying its the general "position defensive rating" that determines the rate of fatigue? And I assume the higher the rating, the slower the player fatigues? Or, is it, if they are rated at more than 1 position, then the fatigue faster or slower?
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Old 04-21-2020, 03:40 PM   #5
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In Perfect Team, it is based only on position played. Apparently, after a certain number of consecutive games of play (depending on position), a player needs rest. This results in the following games played over the course of a 162-game season if they are not platooned:

DH: 162
1B: 157-158
All others: 152-153
You forgot C which is lower than all others.
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Old 04-21-2020, 07:13 PM   #6
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sipimi, you are right, I forgot C --- generally, it appears that C can play two straight days (sometimes three) before having to take a day off. In general, it appears they get around 120 games per year.
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Old 04-27-2020, 01:32 PM   #7
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Edit to make clear I was hoping to get input on players fatigue in tournaments specifically
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Old 04-28-2020, 12:57 AM   #8
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Do position players have a stamina rating, similar to what pitchers have? It seems strange that, say, Iron Man Cal Ripken would tire at the same rate as every other 3B and have to take games off.
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Old 01-09-2021, 08:39 PM   #9
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What about the percentage of fatigue and the effect on play in tournaments? Should a player be rested at 70%, 50%, 30%? I haven't found this anywhere.

If a player has 80 contact and 90 power, does that go to 40 and 45 if he is 50% fatigued?
I've been playing with it a bit lately, but before that I just left the setting at 0 and the back up played when the starter was tired.

That brings to mind something else. I the sub comes in when the starter is tired, does that mean it won't wait until the player is exhausted or at zero, and instead come in when he hits the number that says "tired"?
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Old 02-06-2021, 12:18 PM   #10
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I was always under the impression that player fatigue varies drastically depending on position played....when I compare PA by positions over several seasons, more important defensive positions like C, SS, and CF see lower PA compared to easier positions like LF, RF, and 1B. (3B and 2B being more in the middle)

This makes sense too....positions that are more demanding (the constant squatting for catchers, the high amount of ground balls hit by righties to the SS, and the huge range of a CF) should tire a player more than a big lug at 1B just standing there catching throws, or corner outfielders with less responsibility than the CF.

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Old 02-06-2021, 12:35 PM   #11
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Edit to make clear I was hoping to get input on players fatigue in tournaments specifically
The AI does a piss poor job of managing your utility players. It waits until a player needs rest before inserting one. But, that means no one gets used until one day when 4 or 5 players need rest all at once. The only way to properly use your bench is to manually micro manage and good luck with that!

After winning a 7-game series, with no micro-ing and no days off, I have 4 players below 80% and the catcher at 37%. It is madness to try to micro that (times 3 tournament teams)! So, everyone is in the same boat, don't worry, be happy.

Lost game 1 2-1 in 10 innings. The AI did not substitute anyone, and now at below 60% for 4 players.

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Old 08-11-2025, 06:05 AM   #12
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Position player fatigue is driven primarily by games and innings played. .... (more on related subjects.)
Games, innings, or both? Matters a lot. Especially, can I reduce fatigue of my 1st string catcher by putting in my backup for 1-3 innings in blowouts?
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