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Old 02-09-2024, 09:53 AM   #36656
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Jacob Doyle 1872

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since i feel bad for making so many random posts of stuff i think would be interesting to see i'll just make a list of things that might be cool and if anyone is able to find them then just let me know. Some of them may not exist but they're just things that'd be cool to see. I myself will continue to look for them too.
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-Is Jacob Doyle who played in 1872 the same man as the J. Doyle in the 1870 Rockford Forest Citys team photo (Rockford's Doyle is the image shown on Jacob's b ref page but something tells me its not the same man because Jacob would have been like 14 at the time and the man in the photo looks older than that)
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In working with the 1870 Rockford (IL) Forest Citys team composite I found that the facepack image of Jacob Doyle (replicated on his B-R.com page and his Wikipedia page) came from this composite.

Doyle was a 16-year-old middle infielder for the 1872 Washington Nationals, near his hometown of Leesburg, VA. In addition to the age of the 1870 Forest Citys subject (Doyle would have been at most 14 years old at the time the picture was taken), the distance between Doyle's hometown and Rockford indicate that this is not the 1872 Major Leaguer.

I have removed the Doyle image from the facepack and added him to the Missing Player List.
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Picture on Baseball Reference
... The Doyle image comes on Baseball-Reference comes from the 1870 Rockford Forest Citys team composite photo. It is not the same Doyle who played a few games for the 1872 Nationals. I've been trying to get them to remove both of those images (along with several other mis-identified players).

While Bass and Cavanaugh died relatively young, Doyle lived a long life and was a Lieutenant Commander in the Navy following his baseball career, maybe via Ancestry there might be a military or passport photo of him?
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I found an image of Jacob Doyle while he was serving as a circuit court bailiff in the 4/7/1925 edition of the Chicago Tribune. He served many years in the Navy and was a Lieutenant Commander during WWI. He was a long-time resident of Lake Bluff and the Waukegan newspapers are filled with his witticisms. The papers refer to him almost exclusively as "J.D. Doyle" or "Commander Doyle" for the duration of his life.
Doyle was re-inserted into the Missing Player List in 2011, after reaching the same conclusion. Baseball-Reference continues to show the old photo, regardless of that finding. Last year, Cinemaodyssey located a photo of Doyle (last linked post, above), 50 years post-career, at which time Doyle was again removed from the Missing Player List.
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