BZ 1664, 1665: OF ratings problem when creating a season.

StyxNCa · 07-01-2008, 04:40 PM

I haven't tested any other season so I don't know how they work, but I do know there is a problem importing the 1969 season.

Many outfielders seem to not be getting ratings due to poor ratings in the 3 rated areas (range, error, arm). It appears most of them are players who played CF in their career along with their primary OF position. Bobby Bonds, Bobby Murcer and Vada Pinson stick out.

This was imported from the in game database, but it happens regardless of what database I use. There was never this problem with earlier versions.

The ratings are on a 1-100 scale. I am importing as a stand alone season, but I doubt that doesn't make a difference, and with recalc turned off, though it did the same thing with recalc on. I am also using real ratings, not normalized.

StyxNCa · 07-01-2008, 07:26 PM

Maybe if someone with some time on their hands could import the 1969 season and see if they have the same problem. If they don't then I know I'm doing something wrong.

pstrickert · 07-01-2008, 07:45 PM

This is what I see after importing the '69 season using 1-year recalc:

pstrickert · 07-01-2008, 08:19 PM

Here's what I see after importing the '69 season using 3-year recalc. I'm not sure how to explain Bernie Carbo's ratings. Otherwise, I see no problems.

StyxNCa · 07-02-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pstrickert

Here's what I see after importing the '69 season using 3-year recalc. I'm not sure how to explain Bernie Carbo's ratings. Otherwise, I see no problems.

The problem I have seen with recalc, either 1 year or 3 year, which is why I turned it off, is that pitchers are assigned batting ratings they shouldn't have, particularly power ratings. Pitchers who had NO homeruns are given decent power ratings.

So with or without recalc, there is a problem.

Thanks for the effort though!

I guess I can create 2 leagues, one with recalc and the one I will use without it. Then I can just manually put the ratings in. Still, I didn't have to do it this way with older versions, even OOTP 8 which had the recalc option.

As for Carbo, he was just a pinch hitter in '69 with just 3 AB.

pstrickert · 07-02-2008, 07:37 PM

Here's what I see when I turn recalc off:

StyxNCa · 07-02-2008, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pstrickert

Here's what I see when I turn recalc off:

Ok, so it isn't something I'm doing wrong. They changed something in the recalc/no recalc thing I reckon.

One thing in common I have noticed about the players involved. It seems to be a RF/CF combination (where players top 2 OF positions are such). LF/CF players don't seem to be effected nor do straight CF players.

So, I wonder, having figured out that much if it will be looked at by Markus.

pstrickert · 07-02-2008, 08:09 PM

BZ1664: pitchers hit too many HRs
BZ1665: outfielders import with unusually low OF ratings

StyxNCa · 07-04-2008, 07:03 PM

This may help. I tried importing Bobby Bonds into the league that imported him with extremely low ratings (recalc off) and I used a database of the 1969 season where the players from that year have ONLY their 1969 stats in the database and Bonds imported correctly. It seems when there are multiple years and a player played both RF and CF the ratings get screwed. As I said earlier, there is no problem when a player is a LF/CF.

I also created a new 1969 league using the "1969 only" database with recalc off and there were no problems.

pstrickert · 07-11-2008, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pstrickert

BZ1664: pitchers hit too many HRs
BZ1665: outfielders import with unusually low OF ratings

StyxNCA, I do believe Markus nailed these two!

StyxNCa · 07-11-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pstrickert

StyxNCA, I do believe Markus nailed these two!

That would sure save me a lot of work importing a season into 2008 than shifting them over to 09.

Thanks.

Nutlaw · 07-12-2008, 10:38 AM

BZ 1665: This issue was claimed fixed for the upcoming patch. If you still have trouble with this matter after patching, please post a link to this thread along with a detailed explanation of what happened and we will re-open this report. Thanks.

StyxNCa · 07-12-2008, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

BZ 1665: This issue was claimed fixed for the upcoming patch. If you still have trouble with this matter after patching, please post a link to this thread along with a detailed explanation of what happened and we will re-open this report. Thanks.

Will do.

StyxNCa · 07-13-2008, 09:16 AM

This is working correctly now. Thanks!

Nutlaw · 07-13-2008, 10:10 AM

BZ 1664 still hasn't been addressed yet, yes?

StyxNCa · 07-13-2008, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Nutlaw

BZ 1664 still hasn't been addressed yet, yes?

From what I saw it was fixed. Pitchers with no HR's IRL were rated 1 both using and not using recalc. Looks good to me.

Nutlaw · 07-13-2008, 11:07 AM

Huh. There you go. It was. Great!

07-01-2008, 04:40 PM	#1
StyxNCa Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Victoria, Texas Posts: 3,136	BZ 1664, 1665: OF ratings problem when creating a season. I haven't tested any other season so I don't know how they work, but I do know there is a problem importing the 1969 season. Many outfielders seem to not be getting ratings due to poor ratings in the 3 rated areas (range, error, arm). It appears most of them are players who played CF in their career along with their primary OF position. Bobby Bonds, Bobby Murcer and Vada Pinson stick out. This was imported from the in game database, but it happens regardless of what database I use. There was never this problem with earlier versions. The ratings are on a 1-100 scale. I am importing as a stand alone season, but I doubt that doesn't make a difference, and with recalc turned off, though it did the same thing with recalc on. I am also using real ratings, not normalized. Attached Images Last edited by StyxNCa; 07-01-2008 at 05:08 PM.

07-01-2008, 07:45 PM	#3
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,418	This is what I see after importing the '69 season using 1-year recalc: Attached Images

07-01-2008, 08:19 PM	#4
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,418	Here's what I see after importing the '69 season using 3-year recalc. I'm not sure how to explain Bernie Carbo's ratings. Otherwise, I see no problems. Attached Images

07-02-2008, 07:37 PM	#6
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,418	Here's what I see when I turn recalc off: Attached Images

07-01-2008, 07:26 PM	#2
StyxNCa Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Victoria, Texas Posts: 3,136	Maybe if someone with some time on their hands could import the 1969 season and see if they have the same problem. If they don't then I know I'm doing something wrong.

07-02-2008, 08:09 PM	#8
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,418	BZ1664: pitchers hit too many HRs BZ1665: outfielders import with unusually low OF ratings

07-04-2008, 07:03 PM	#9
StyxNCa Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Victoria, Texas Posts: 3,136	This may help. I tried importing Bobby Bonds into the league that imported him with extremely low ratings (recalc off) and I used a database of the 1969 season where the players from that year have ONLY their 1969 stats in the database and Bonds imported correctly. It seems when there are multiple years and a player played both RF and CF the ratings get screwed. As I said earlier, there is no problem when a player is a LF/CF. I also created a new 1969 league using the "1969 only" database with recalc off and there were no problems.

07-12-2008, 10:38 AM	#12
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	BZ 1665: This issue was claimed fixed for the upcoming patch. If you still have trouble with this matter after patching, please post a link to this thread along with a detailed explanation of what happened and we will re-open this report. Thanks.

07-13-2008, 09:16 AM	#14
StyxNCa Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Victoria, Texas Posts: 3,136	This is working correctly now. Thanks!

07-13-2008, 10:10 AM	#15
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	BZ 1664 still hasn't been addressed yet, yes?

07-13-2008, 11:07 AM	#17
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	Huh. There you go. It was. Great!