Crash on "Options and Ballpark"

[His Own Bad Self]

When I click on "Options and Ballpark" in the team screen, the game's crashing on me. I can navigate through the rest of the team-related tabs and options, though.

[Nutlaw]

Which version of the game are you using, please?

[His Own Bad Self]

9.1.6.

[Nutlaw]

That's odd. Any other crashes when not simming out a game? How much RAM do you have? Are you simulating games in the background while playing out your game?

[His Own Bad Self]

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

That's odd. Any other crashes when not simming out a game? How much RAM do you have? Are you simulating games in the background while playing out your game?

The game hasn't crashed on me for any other reason.

2 gig.

No. I shut everything else off, and the game still crashed.

EDIT: When I try to re-open the universe that crashed, it freezes on "Loading Teams", at about 22%, and won't progress any further. EDIT 2: And appears to eat up my RAM in the process.

[Nutlaw]

Originally Posted by His Own Bad Self

The game hasn't crashed on me for any other reason.

2 gig.

No. I shut everything else off, and the game still crashed.

EDIT: When I try to re-open the universe that crashed, it freezes on "Loading Teams", at about 22%, and won't progress any further. EDIT 2: And appears to eat up my RAM in the process.

That's less good. Can you open up other saved games just fine? Can you create another league as a test, go to the Options and Ballpark tab, and see if it crashes on you?

So did your original league repeatedly crash on that tab and now won't open, or did it crash the one time and now it won't open?

[His Own Bad Self]

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

That's less good. Can you open up other saved games just fine? Can you create another league as a test, go to the Options and Ballpark tab, and see if it crashes on you?

So did your original league repeatedly crash on that tab and now won't open, or did it crash the one time and now it won't open?

I've done that with a handful of test leagues now. Each time, they've failed that particular test. Each league has only crashed once before it refuses to open again.

[Nutlaw]

Originally Posted by His Own Bad Self

I've done that with a handful of test leagues now. Each time, they've failed that particular test. Each league has only crashed once before it refuses to open again.

I find that particularly odd because it's the same screen that you navigate when you first start up a game. What happens if, before you start playing a game, you edit a team's lineup then go back to the main/options tab?

Furthermore, I don't know why a crash while playing out a game ought to mess up your league.

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the game?

[His Own Bad Self]

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the game?

No, but I did think about it yesterday. I'll do so today...

EDIT: Nope, didn't work.

[Nutlaw]

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

I find that particularly odd because it's the same screen that you navigate when you first start up a game. What happens if, before you start playing a game, you edit a team's lineup then go back to the main/options tab?

What about the above?

[His Own Bad Self]

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

What about the above?

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Didn't try it, yet.

[Nutlaw]

Originally Posted by His Own Bad Self

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Didn't try it, yet.

Any progress?

[His Own Bad Self]

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

Any progress?

No... I decided to scrap the template I was using, and recreate it. I don't know if the universe's size is the problem, or if it's something else unknown.

[Nutlaw]

Okay. I'll close out this thread for now then, but if you need any further assistance, please post in Tech Support.

[His Own Bad Self]

A continuation of this thread...

I created a universe of 70 fictional 16-team leagues, 1,120 teams, and didn't change anything except a few of the league's home countries, so that the city names were of the oddly formatted variety (city names with underscores in them and whatnot). Tried Options and Ballparks. Crashed. Created a new universe with the same number of leagues and teams. Didn't change anything. Crashed again.

It may simply be that it can't handle that large a setup. Not cool.

[Nutlaw]

Originally Posted by His Own Bad Self

It may simply be that it can't handle that large a setup.

Yup. That's one heck of a lot of leagues, teams, and players. 2 GB RAM probably won't cut it. You'll have to try a setup with fewer of each.

Can we help you with anything else?

[His Own Bad Self]

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

Yup. That's one heck of a lot of leagues, teams, and players. 2 GB RAM probably won't cut it. You'll have to try a setup with fewer of each.

Can we help you with anything else?

Not at the moment. I'm surprised that it's only this one thing that it can't handle. Everything else works AFAIK, even on a build of this size.

[Nutlaw]

Originally Posted by His Own Bad Self

Not at the moment. I'm surprised that it's only this one thing that it can't handle. Everything else works AFAIK, even on a build of this size.

It won't. It'll get worse once you build a little history.

If small universes cause this issue for you as well, please let us know.

[His Own Bad Self]

I once again did the same thing as detailed in this thread: 70 fictional leagues, 16 teams each, no changes, using 9.2.2. The Options and Ballparks page works fine now, even with so large a world. I'm still running on 2GB RAM, so the size must not have been the real issue. Thanks to Markus and company as always - don't know what you did, but you must have done something that fixed it.

[Nutlaw]

Originally Posted by His Own Bad Self

I once again did the same thing as detailed in this thread: 70 fictional leagues, 16 teams each, no changes, using 9.2.2. The Options and Ballparks page works fine now, even with so large a world. I'm still running on 2GB RAM, so the size must not have been the real issue. Thanks to Markus and company as always - don't know what you did, but you must have done something that fixed it.

Well, that's good to know, but I would still be very wary of running a universe that large. Now, the developers did make a number of small improvements and fixes that should have improved performance, but you've still got yourself some large files that will only get a lot larger as you build some history in the league.