Gambo and T_Wil1 Photopack - Page 568

baseball-birthdays.com · 08-18-2011, 08:25 PM

Bump Hadley 1926 - New York Yankees

baseball-birthdays.com · 08-18-2011, 08:42 PM

Pete Vuckovich 1975 - St. Louis Cardinals

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tnfoto · 08-18-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Amazin69

Okay, so I have an image of someone wearing #39, apparently for the Giants. Should be easy to identify, right? Wrong.

From 1955 through 1970, #39 for the Giants was worn by (takes breath) Pete Burnside, Jim Constable, Curt Barclay, Leon Wagner (dq by race), Eddie Fisher, Dick LeMay, Randy Hundley, Lindy McDaniel, Bill Monbouquette, Bob Garibaldi and Frank Reberger. And this guy looks like none of them.

Who is this (IMO creepy) fellow? Why is there no logo on his cap? Is there another team that wore black and orange uniform numerals and I'm the wrong team entirely? Help, please.

(My first guess, since I found the photo right next to the O'Donoghue [posted above] and two of Blue Moon Odom, was that this was Digger O'Dell [who pitched in SF from '60-'64]. But it doesn't look like him, either, and he never wore #39 in his life.)

The photo in question shows Houston Colt .45s pitcher Dave Giusti, ca. 1963. Here are some other Giusti Colt .45s images alongside a clip of the original photo for comparison.

baseball-birthdays.com · 08-18-2011, 08:55 PM

Emil Verban 1944 - St. Louis Cardinals

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baseball-birthdays.com · 08-18-2011, 08:57 PM

Emil Verban 1944 - Chicago Cubs

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Amazin69 · 08-18-2011, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tnfoto

The photo in question shows Houston Colt .45s pitcher Dave Giusti, ca. 1963.

Wow, I really was chasing the wrong team. Thanks!

Any reason for the lack of logo on the cap? The .45s don't seem to have changed logos or anything like that.

baseball-birthdays.com · 08-18-2011, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Amazin69

Wow, I really was chasing the wrong team. Thanks!

Any reason for the lack of logo on the cap? The .45s don't seem to have changed logos or anything like that.

Topps would often airbrush the logos from caps when a player was traded, and they'd sometimes even paint in the new team's logo on the old team's cap.

Giusti went from Houston to the Cardinals though, and that may have been too much for even Topps to try and fake...

BigYaz · 08-18-2011, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Amazin69

Wow, I really was chasing the wrong team. Thanks!

Any reason for the lack of logo on the cap? The .45s don't seem to have changed logos or anything like that.

A pretty good explanation here: The Fleer Sticker Project: You Can't Call Them ASTROS!

It appears that it was a trademarking/merchandising issue that Topps got right in the middle of and was not resolved until the 1970 set.

keonleafs · 08-19-2011, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tnfoto

The photo in question shows Houston Colt .45s pitcher Dave Giusti, ca. 1963. Here are some other Giusti Colt .45s images alongside a clip of the original photo for comparison.

Is it possible to get the first 2 pics of Giusti in their complete form (uncropped). Thanks in advance!!

Amazin69 · 08-19-2011, 02:14 AM

Ah, I knew that Topps would airbrush the traded players' caps; I just thought that the images in the vault were the unaltered ones. I'll be on the lookout from now on. (And thanks to BigYaz for that interesting article about the Astros' legal issues.)

Back to the images, it seems that the only picture on this site of Lomas Edgar "Ed" (or "Gar", as Brosnan calls him in his books) Bailey in a red Reds cap (i.e., pre-1957 and the white caps) is a profile shot. Allow me to offer a better look at Bailey with traditional Cincy headgear (as well as a facepack-sized edit). The image was used for his 1957 Topps card.

tnfoto · 08-19-2011, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by keonleafs

Is it possible to get the first 2 pics of Giusti in their complete form (uncropped). Thanks in advance!!

Sorry, I don't have the full versions of the three 1963 Colt .45s images I posted before. Here are a couple of others from the next season (1964), courtesy of Pegasus27.

Amazin69 · 08-19-2011, 03:23 AM

Taken on a 1956 visit to New York, it's a more dynamic pose than was used for Bob's 1957 Topps (which is from the same photoshoot), but it's not too great for a facepack upgrade, what with a small head, partially in shadow.

Still, the current facepack pic of Bob is black & white, so an upgrade's an upgrade, I say.

Keegan, btw, is probably the second-best pitcher ever to attend Bucknell. Just slightly behind Christy Mathewson.

tnfoto · 08-19-2011, 03:47 AM

Larger, clearer 1987 Dodgers image.

tnfoto · 08-19-2011, 04:32 AM

Some Dodgers spring training options, B&W from 1994 and color from 1993.

UKBaseballfan · 08-19-2011, 05:26 AM

Facepack upgrade, in major league cap

UKBaseballfan · 08-19-2011, 06:07 AM

Facepack upgrade, color image

cheech411 · 08-19-2011, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amazin69

Okay, so I have an image of someone wearing #39, apparently for the Giants. Should be easy to identify, right? Wrong.

From 1955 through 1970, #39 for the Giants was worn by (takes breath) Pete Burnside, Jim Constable, Curt Barclay, Leon Wagner (dq by race), Eddie Fisher, Dick LeMay, Randy Hundley, Lindy McDaniel, Bill Monbouquette, Bob Garibaldi and Frank Reberger. And this guy looks like none of them.

Who is this (IMO creepy) fellow? Why is there no logo on his cap? Is there another team that wore black and orange uniform numerals and I'm the wrong team entirely? Help, please.

(My first guess, since I found the photo right next to the O'Donoghue [posted above] and two of Blue Moon Odom, was that this was Digger O'Dell [who pitched in SF from '60-'64]. But it doesn't look like him, either, and he never wore #39 in his life.)

100% sure houston unf

baseball-birthdays.com · 08-19-2011, 10:34 AM

Wib Smith 1909 - St. Louis Browns

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baseball-birthdays.com · 08-19-2011, 10:59 AM

Lou Criger 1896 - St. Louis Browns

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UKBaseballfan · 08-19-2011, 12:06 PM

Facepack upgrade, in major league cap

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baseball-birthdays.com All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 1,866	Pete Vuckovich 1975 - St. Louis Cardinals uniform Pete Vuckovich 1975 - St. Louis Cardinals --- Attached Images Last edited by baseball-birthdays.com; 08-18-2011 at 08:45 PM.

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baseball-birthdays.com All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 1,866	Emil Verban 1944 - St. Louis Cardinals uniform Emil Verban 1944 - St. Louis Cardinals --- Attached Images

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08-19-2011, 02:14 AM	#11350
Amazin69 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 3,566 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Ed Bailey 1956 Reds alternate image Ah, I knew that Topps would airbrush the traded players' caps; I just thought that the images in the vault were the unaltered ones. I'll be on the lookout from now on. (And thanks to BigYaz for that interesting article about the Astros' legal issues.) Back to the images, it seems that the only picture on this site of Lomas Edgar "Ed" (or "Gar", as Brosnan calls him in his books) Bailey in a red Reds cap (i.e., pre-1957 and the white caps) is a profile shot. Allow me to offer a better look at Bailey with traditional Cincy headgear (as well as a facepack-sized edit). The image was used for his 1957 Topps card. Attached Images

08-19-2011, 03:23 AM	#11352
Amazin69 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 3,566 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Bob Keegan 1953-color image Taken on a 1956 visit to New York, it's a more dynamic pose than was used for Bob's 1957 Topps (which is from the same photoshoot), but it's not too great for a facepack upgrade, what with a small head, partially in shadow. Still, the current facepack pic of Bob is black & white, so an upgrade's an upgrade, I say. Keegan, btw, is probably the second-best pitcher ever to attend Bucknell. Just slightly behind Christy Mathewson. Attached Images

08-19-2011, 03:47 AM	#11353
tnfoto Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Port Angeles, WA Posts: 12,715	Craig Shipley 1986 Alt Uni Dodgers Larger, clearer 1987 Dodgers image. Attached Images __________________ TNFOTO: baseball careers ended "Through No Fault Of Their Own" Facepack updated 4/5/2022 Info & download links here. Missing player/manager/umpire list or Pegasus UIN list Download Facepack & more at tnfoto's Baseball Photos Homepage Photo threads: 2025 Debuts Majors Managers Coaches Umpires Minors Negro League Image Requests General Image Discussion

08-19-2011, 04:32 AM	#11354
tnfoto Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Port Angeles, WA Posts: 12,715	Greg Hansell 1995 UNI Dodgers Some Dodgers spring training options, B&W from 1994 and color from 1993. Attached Images __________________ TNFOTO: baseball careers ended "Through No Fault Of Their Own" Facepack updated 4/5/2022 Info & download links here. Missing player/manager/umpire list or Pegasus UIN list Download Facepack & more at tnfoto's Baseball Photos Homepage Photo threads: 2025 Debuts Majors Managers Coaches Umpires Minors Negro League Image Requests General Image Discussion

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UKBaseballfan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 6,653 Infractions: 0/1 (2)	Barry Latman 1957 Facepack upgrade, in major league cap Last edited by UKBaseballfan; 07-03-2019 at 05:08 AM.

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UKBaseballfan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 6,653 Infractions: 0/1 (2)	Don Williams 1958 Facepack upgrade, color image Last edited by UKBaseballfan; 07-03-2019 at 05:08 AM.

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baseball-birthdays.com All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 1,866	Wib Smith 1909 - alternate image Wib Smith 1909 - St. Louis Browns --- Attached Images Last edited by baseball-birthdays.com; 08-19-2011 at 11:01 AM.

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baseball-birthdays.com All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 1,866	Lou Criger 1896 - St. Louis Browns uniform Lou Criger 1896 - St. Louis Browns --- Attached Images

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UKBaseballfan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 6,653 Infractions: 0/1 (2)	Al Spangler 1959 Facepack upgrade, in major league cap Last edited by UKBaseballfan; 07-03-2019 at 05:08 AM.