How exactly do option years work

[Zarberg]

I have player in an online league who I've had in the minors but on the 40 man roster. They have 2 years of service, yet 3 options used. Since OotP uses options as "option years", how is it they have 3 used with only 2 years of service?



(note, the league is one I'm running, and I'm asking because one of my GMs is wondering why he has to have said player clear waivers to demote)

[legofarley]

That doesn't seem right at all. I would reset options used to 2.

[Cinnamon J. Scudworth]

Unless he was accidentally put on the 40 man roster and immediately waived off of it once in the past?

[bigfatcat]

Originally Posted by Cinnamon J. Scudworth

Unless he was accidentally put on the 40 man roster and immediately waived off of it once in the past?

they've all (i have 4 of them...its my team) been on the 40-man since they were signed as free agents, and have never been waived. they've only played in the minors, but they've always been on the 40-man. it comes into play right now because its spring training, they were promoted to the bigs because they are on the 40-man, and can't be sent down (without first being waived) because the game is saying they have no option years remaining. they're good prospects...if i waive them they'll for sure be claimed, they're just not major-league ready, and my team is a contender. carrying 4 not-ready guys would really hurt my team. we're just trying to figure out how players with only 2.0 years as professionals could have possibly used up 3 option years.

thanks!

[SandMan]

I think that the players have used 3 options because they use one before season one, one before season two and then the third one is used before season three (a season not played yet) so they would have 3 options used while only having 2 years of service time. I hope I explained this right. A player with two service years and one coming up will have used three options.

[bigfatcat]

Originally Posted by SandMan

I think that the players have used 3 options because they use one before season one, one before season two and then the third one is used before season three (a season not played yet) so they would have 3 options used while only having 2 years of service time. I hope I explained this right. A player with two service years and one coming up will have used three options.

very well explained, thanks...even though its not exactly what i was hoping to hear.

our league uses scouts, and all these players were 'discovered' playing in far off lands by my scout.
does anyone know 100% for sure what the deal is? we just don't know...but i'm inclined to think that SandMan is correct. i wonder if i can win with 21 actual major leaguers on my 25-man...

[Isryion]

Originally Posted by bigfatcat

very well explained, thanks...even though its not exactly what i was hoping to hear.

our league uses scouts, and all these players were 'discovered' playing in far off lands by my scout.
does anyone know 100% for sure what the deal is? we just don't know...but i'm inclined to think that SandMan is correct. i wonder if i can win with 21 actual major leaguers on my 25-man...

Sandman's rationalized the issue but it's not technically correct. Option indicates a player should be able to spend part of (or all) of three different seasons in the minors. Options don't get used before the season because if they are still on the club opening day and for the remainder of the season, that option would never be used.

[byzeil]

Originally Posted by Isryion

Sandman's rationalized the issue but it's not technically correct. Option indicates a player should be able to spend part of (or all) of three different seasons in the minors. Options don't get used before the season because if they are still on the club opening day and for the remainder of the season, that option would never be used.

Plus, a player uses the option when they are sent down each season. A player can be brought up/down numerous times each year while using 1 option. So IF an option was charged at the beginning of the 3rd season they would still be able to be demoted/promoted during the season.

Did the online league you are in upgrade from v12 at some point or was it a new v13 league? Were these players originally signed in v12?

The reason I ask is I reported a bug back in v12 that was fixed in v13 where Option years were miscalculated. This sounds like this could be the case here.

Here is the link to my forums posts regarding the issue.

[bigfatcat]

Originally Posted by byzeil

Plus, a player uses the option when they are sent down each season. A player can be brought up/down numerous times each year while using 1 option. So IF an option was charged at the beginning of the 3rd season they would still be able to be demoted/promoted during the season.

Did the online league you are in upgrade from v12 at some point or was it a new v13 league? Were these players originally signed in v12?

The reason I ask is I reported a bug back in v12 that was fixed in v13 where Option years were miscalculated. This sounds like this could be the case here.

Here is the link to my forums posts regarding the issue.

thanks so much for taking the time to respond. i really appreciate it.
the option years of my players are going to changed.