DH or no DH? - Page 7

David Watts · 01-30-2015, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG17EASY

I'm not putting you on ignore. You post a lot of helpful stuff around here, as does everyone else. But the personal attacks don't do anyone any good. If people want to argue a point, that's one thing. But taking personal shots -- serious or tongue-in-cheek -- need to stop, and I'm not singling you out when I say that. It applies to everyone, myself included.

Group shots are just as bad as personal shots. Hiding behind flowery terms like "it's your game, play it your way" is just a cover for the insult soon to follow......Vanilla Baseball ring a bell. Like I said above it's the responder that gets flagged, because responding looks personal. It's only personal, because it's not fun being told your opinion means nothing.

Padreman · 01-30-2015, 03:44 PM

MLB Role of the DH changing in today's game - ESPN

rules - Use of the designated hitter (DH) in the MLB - Sports Stack Exchange

Designated hitter is now a role more than a player | MLB.com

COLUMN: The DH's Ever-Changing Role | Neon Tommy

Isura · 01-30-2015, 07:36 PM

I use DH. The AI is not good enough at managing the double switch and pinch hitters. Gives me a big advantage.

The Wolf · 01-30-2015, 08:32 PM

Oh, the heck with it. Continue your reign of insults. It's just proof that you lost the argument.

Substance59 · 01-31-2015, 07:53 PM

I like my OOTP how I like my National League. NO DH! It's so much more strategic and entertaining to watch, so many more reasons to take out pitchers than just "he's tired/not doing well".

swoboda · 01-31-2015, 08:05 PM

Baseball player should mean a guy who can play a position, if you can't or don't you should only be a backup or a pinch hitter. A guy who hits in the heart of the order and doesn't take the field? Not for me.

RchW · 01-31-2015, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Wolf

Oh, the heck with it. Continue your reign of insults. It's just proof that you lost the argument.

Pretty meaningless life if one has to crow about winning an internet forum argument. Enjoy.

TomVeal · 02-01-2015, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Padreman

MLB Role of the DH changing in today's game - ESPN

rules - Use of the designated hitter (DH) in the MLB - Sports Stack Exchange

Designated hitter is now a role more than a player | MLB.com

COLUMN: The DH's Ever-Changing Role | Neon Tommy

Interesting articles. I wonder whether the OOTP 16 AI will be aware of the fact that the one-man DH is about as obsolete as the four-man pitching rotation.

Habsfan18 · 02-01-2015, 12:22 AM

What I don't understand about this forum is that a few people constantly feel the need to tell others how they should play the game and that they should play it how they themselves choose to play. Almost as if the way they play is the correct way and the ONLY way.

Maybe these increasingly predictable arguments wouldn't happen if people just realized that there are going to be differing opinions about rules and gameplay choices.

Play how you want to play, and respect that others may not agree with every aspect of the way YOU play, but it's how they like it. Is there really anything wrong with that?

Can't we all just get along? Seriously. We all love baseball and OOTP. We should all be friends. Enough with the bickering.

chucksabr · 02-01-2015, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Habsfan18

What I don't understand about this forum is that a few people constantly feel the need to tell others how they should play the game and that they should play it how they themselves choose to play. Almost as if the way they play is the correct way and the ONLY way.

Maybe these increasingly predictable arguments wouldn't happen if people just realized that there are going to be differing opinions about rules and gameplay choices.

Play how you want to play, and respect that others may not agree with every aspect of the way YOU play, but it's how they like it. Is there really anything wrong with that?

Can't we all just get along? Seriously. We all love baseball and OOTP. We should all be friends. Enough with the bickering.

100% agree with your post. I would add only that this doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't have spirited debates about controversial baseball issues such as the DH at all. I just think the debate needs to focus strictly on the points being made, and not on the people making them, because if someone feels the need to cast aspersions on the other guy in order to win (or to to appear to win) his argument, that means he is not confident that his argument is strong enough to win on its own merits. IOW, the first person to go ad hominem loses.

Honorable_Pawn · 02-01-2015, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

Group shots are just as bad as personal shots. Hiding behind flowery terms like "it's your game, play it your way" is just a cover for the insult soon to follow......Vanilla Baseball ring a bell. Like I said above it's the responder that gets flagged, because responding looks personal. It's only personal, because it's not fun being told your opinion means nothing.

Worst idea ever.

Honorable_Pawn · 02-01-2015, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by chucksabr

...aspersions...

As-pursh-a-hamey-homey???

David Watts · 02-01-2015, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Honorable_Pawn

Worst idea ever.

Give me a minute or two and I can top this........Markus I'm a huge fan of mysteries in which dogs and cats solve crimes. Is there any chance that 16 will come with the ability to set up domesticated animal leagues?

RchW · 02-01-2015, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Honorable_Pawn

Worst idea ever.

Assistant hitting coaches, bullpen coaches, batting tee adjustment tech.

Westheim · 02-01-2015, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

Give me a minute or two and I can top this........Markus I'm a huge fan of mysteries in which dogs and cats solve crimes. Is there any chance that 16 will come with the ability to set up domesticated animal leagues?

Now I would be tempted to jump onto a game where animals play ball. Imagine a fearsome middle of the order made up of cats Muffin, Fluffy, and Sir Eats-A-Lot.

Problem is, being cats, they sleep through the middle innings.....

David Watts · 02-01-2015, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Westheim

Now I would be tempted to jump onto a game where animals play ball. Imagine a fearsome middle of the order made up of cats Muffin, Fluffy, and Sir Eats-A-Lot.

Problem is, being cats, they sleep through the middle innings.....

I'm betting even asleep they would be better defensively than a Dave Dombrowski put together squad.

chucksabr · 02-01-2015, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Honorable_Pawn

As-pursh-a-hamey-homey???

I'm not sure I understand this reaction.

BusterKing · 02-01-2015, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

Give me a minute or two and I can top this........Markus I'm a huge fan of mysteries in which dogs and cats solve crimes. Is there any chance that 16 will come with the ability to set up domesticated animal leagues?

I bought one of the very first version of Baseball Mogul, after simulating a few years it started to introduce dogs and cats as players. Never bought it again. True story!

David Watts · 02-01-2015, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BusterKing

I bought one of the very first version of Baseball Mogul, after simulating a few years it started to introduce dogs and cats as players. Never bought it again. True story!

Did it have dolphins as well or is that just a strange dream I had?

TomVeal · 02-01-2015, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

Give me a minute or two and I can top this........Markus I'm a huge fan of mysteries in which dogs and cats solve crimes. Is there any chance that 16 will come with the ability to set up domesticated animal leagues?

Has anybody else here read Walter R. Brooks's Freddy and the Baseball Team from Mars? Not only animal players, but six-limbed Martians, too!

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swoboda All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Guarding The Line Posts: 1,218	Baseball player should mean a guy who can play a position, if you can't or don't you should only be a backup or a pinch hitter. A guy who hits in the heart of the order and doesn't take the field? Not for me. __________________ "...If you want to look ahead to the bottom of the ninth, the Mets will be sending up Buddy Harrelson, Jerry Buchek , and Don Bosch, we'll be right back after this word from Rheingold Beer" The late great Lindsey Nelson

01-30-2015, 07:36 PM	#123
Isura Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 361	I use DH. The AI is not good enough at managing the double switch and pinch hitters. Gives me a big advantage.

01-31-2015, 07:53 PM	#125
Substance59 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 49	I like my OOTP how I like my National League. NO DH! It's so much more strategic and entertaining to watch, so many more reasons to take out pitchers than just "he's tired/not doing well".

02-01-2015, 12:22 AM	#129
Habsfan18 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,244	What I don't understand about this forum is that a few people constantly feel the need to tell others how they should play the game and that they should play it how they themselves choose to play. Almost as if the way they play is the correct way and the ONLY way. Maybe these increasingly predictable arguments wouldn't happen if people just realized that there are going to be differing opinions about rules and gameplay choices. Play how you want to play, and respect that others may not agree with every aspect of the way YOU play, but it's how they like it. Is there really anything wrong with that? Can't we all just get along? Seriously. We all love baseball and OOTP. We should all be friends. Enough with the bickering.