Locker Room Turmoil

buccosfan739 · 03-24-2015, 11:25 PM

So I keep getting emails about issues in the locker room. I can't seem to find any way to solve it. What are the options available (if any)?

RchW · 03-24-2015, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by buccosfan739

So I keep getting emails about issues in the locker room. I can't seem to find any way to solve it. What are the options available (if any)?

How is your team doing? If they are playing well, ride it out.

buccosfan739 · 03-24-2015, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

How is your team doing? If they are playing well, ride it out.

they're in second right now heading into sept. didnt know if there was something i could do to quell it

Padreman · 03-25-2015, 12:17 AM

Well also if there is a trouble maker you make want to trade him. Looks at your players mood who is upset over what?

RchW · 03-25-2015, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Padreman

Well also if there is a trouble maker you make want to trade him. Looks at your players mood who is upset over what?

Hard to trade in September and get proper value.

buccosfan739 · 03-25-2015, 07:15 AM

There's probably 7 players that are upset about trouble makers on the team. So are they the trouble makers or is someone else? Is there a way to determine it?

Matt Arnold · 03-25-2015, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by buccosfan739

There's probably 7 players that are upset about trouble makers on the team. So are they the trouble makers or is someone else? Is there a way to determine it?

There's multiple ways. If you go to the player profile, and check on their morale, they should say what the primary cause of their concerns are. From there, it's up to you to read the personality profiles of the players on your team and figure out who are the potential troublemakers.

David Watts · 03-25-2015, 07:28 AM

Shoot a good locker room scuffle or dugout brawl never hurt those swingin A's of the early 70's

fergman78 · 03-25-2015, 07:33 AM

My Team was having the same issue. I just started a Historical League with the 1976 Red Sox and I was getting messages every other day about the problems in the clubhouse. I ignored it at first because we were in 1st place but it seemed to have a negative impact on the team and we steadily went downhill. I still can't figure out who the issue is but I will investigate more during the offseason. I'm willing to bet its YAZ!

It wasn't Yaz.. Went through all the personalities and found Carlton Fisk and Fergi Jenkins were the issues. They have since been traded and everyone is happy again.

Padreman · 03-25-2015, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RchW

Hard to trade in September and get proper value.

Yeah I mean in general for future reference that option is there

DustinthePOWERHOUSE · 03-25-2015, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

Shoot a good locker room scuffle or dugout brawl never hurt those swingin A's of the early 70's

Exactly! Nothing fixes a problem like a broken nose!

Assos · 03-25-2015, 08:45 AM

This is good to know, I am 8-16 so far in my league.

Aceshigh24 · 06-08-2015, 05:10 PM

Being a huge Seattle Mariners fan growing up (and now) i wanted to start over with the Mariners to when they were founded in the league. I'm up to 1997 and I've been really excited about keeping the M's together with Griffey (Favorite Player)/Arod/Randy Johnson (who i traded for back when he was on the Expos). Sad to say I've now come across this issue with the players upset with the clubhouse and it looks like it's Griffey

I don't want to trade him but it may have to happen in order for my team to be happy again and to restore order in the club house.

Sad day.

curt · 06-08-2015, 08:03 PM

At the beginning of my fictional league I looked over my player personalities and traded away one guy who was very high greed and a low desire to win. I have learned from a previous team I managed that this was nipping the problem in the bud. Haven't had a problem with morale this time around and sitting in first place with an average but not great team. I'm certain low morale will affect player and team abilities in this OOTP version.

TLB1975 · 06-09-2015, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Aceshigh24

Being a huge Seattle Mariners fan growing up (and now) i wanted to start over with the Mariners to when they were founded in the league. I'm up to 1997 and I've been really excited about keeping the M's together with Griffey (Favorite Player)/Arod/Randy Johnson (who i traded for back when he was on the Expos). Sad to say I've now come across this issue with the players upset with the clubhouse and it looks like it's Griffey

Didn't Griffey get Wakamatsu fired a few years ago?

Padreman · 06-09-2015, 08:32 AM

It helps if you have a controlling or temperamental bench
Coach keeping players in line

frangipard · 06-09-2015, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by curt

At the beginning of my fictional league I looked over my player personalities and traded away one guy who was very high greed and a low desire to win. I have learned from a previous team I managed that this was nipping the problem in the bud. Haven't had a problem with morale this time around and sitting in first place with an average but not great team. I'm certain low morale will affect player and team abilities in this OOTP version.

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Originally Posted by Padreman

It helps if you have a controlling or temperamental bench
Coach keeping players in line

I'd love to hear Matt comment, because I find this feature fascinating, but I think it's a little more complicated than that.

Greed can be a bad thing, but I don't think it's the worst; it mostly impacts come contract time AFICT. Desire to win can be good or bad thing -- on a team with last-place talent, your "desire to win" guys are the ones who will become the biggest problems.

A tempermental/controlling coach can be good for a team of youngsters just glad to be there ... but I suspect it would wear thin on a team full of veterans who don't like being yelled at (cf. Billy Martin and Larry Bowa).

I had one team that had a problem with lack of leadership: there were no problem players, but it was a rebuilding squad with only a handful of players over 25, none of them with leadership skills, and one of those "personality of a ham sandwich" managers. I guess the whole place was just kind of flat.

Honestly, I'd love to get a bench coach report every month, with much more detail.

MizzouRah · 06-09-2015, 12:24 PM

I just traded for Mike Napoli (basically addition by subtraction) and afterwards I get an email saying that our locker room has been quiet, but adding Mike would help if there were any issues.

So I guess you could always look for a locker room leader to trade for.

Matt Arnold · 06-09-2015, 12:56 PM

I try to stay vague on my comments on here, but I haven't seen any outlandish lies on here in the general discussions.

A few quick points:
-Managers do matter, and it will be a "personal" decision. Lazy players probably don't get along with hard-*** managers. Hard-line managers can likely prevent all-out brawls in the clubhouse, but are probably still not as fun to work for when the team is doing well.
-A bad influence can truly be a hard thing to manage, but leaders can certainly help. Give me a few leaders on the team, as well as a couple of truly great leaders, and they can likely keep a bad apple in check.
-Otherwise, as mentioned, the best way to keep a good clubhouse is to win. Chemistry and morale can make a difference, but they're way less important than talent on the field. So if it were me, I'd keep anyone around if they're putting up great numbers on the field. But the minute that their production has problems, I would cut bait with them ASAP if they are a negative in the clubhouse.

Aceshigh24 · 06-09-2015, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TLB1975

Didn't Griffey get Wakamatsu fired a few years ago?

I believe so. It goes back to when he feel asleep in the clubhouse when they wanted him to pinch hit. LOL. Thought he ratted him out to the media.

I don't want to trade him but it may be something that i will have to explore since my team isn't winning.

03-24-2015, 11:25 PM	#1
buccosfan739 Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 11	Locker Room Turmoil So I keep getting emails about issues in the locker room. I can't seem to find any way to solve it. What are the options available (if any)?

03-25-2015, 12:17 AM	#4
Padreman Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2013 Location: Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico (formally San Diego, CA.) Posts: 4,138	Well also if there is a trouble maker you make want to trade him. Looks at your players mood who is upset over what? __________________ Chargers= Despicable Traitors

03-25-2015, 07:33 AM	#9
fergman78 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 224	My Team was having the same issue. I just started a Historical League with the 1976 Red Sox and I was getting messages every other day about the problems in the clubhouse. I ignored it at first because we were in 1st place but it seemed to have a negative impact on the team and we steadily went downhill. I still can't figure out who the issue is but I will investigate more during the offseason. I'm willing to bet its YAZ! It wasn't Yaz.. Went through all the personalities and found Carlton Fisk and Fergi Jenkins were the issues. They have since been traded and everyone is happy again. Last edited by fergman78; 03-25-2015 at 07:46 AM.

06-08-2015, 08:03 PM	#14
curt Major Leagues Join Date: May 2013 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 466	Trade away the trouble At the beginning of my fictional league I looked over my player personalities and traded away one guy who was very high greed and a low desire to win. I have learned from a previous team I managed that this was nipping the problem in the bud. Haven't had a problem with morale this time around and sitting in first place with an average but not great team. I'm certain low morale will affect player and team abilities in this OOTP version.

06-09-2015, 08:32 AM	#16
Padreman Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2013 Location: Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico (formally San Diego, CA.) Posts: 4,138	It helps if you have a controlling or temperamental bench Coach keeping players in line __________________ Chargers= Despicable Traitors

03-25-2015, 07:15 AM	#6
buccosfan739 Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 11	There's probably 7 players that are upset about trouble makers on the team. So are they the trouble makers or is someone else? Is there a way to determine it?

03-25-2015, 07:28 AM	#8
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 9,813 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Shoot a good locker room scuffle or dugout brawl never hurt those swingin A's of the early 70's

03-25-2015, 08:45 AM	#12
Assos All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Just on the fair side of the foul pole! Posts: 1,772	This is good to know, I am 8-16 so far in my league.

06-08-2015, 05:10 PM	#13
Aceshigh24 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Brea, CA Posts: 645	Being a huge Seattle Mariners fan growing up (and now) i wanted to start over with the Mariners to when they were founded in the league. I'm up to 1997 and I've been really excited about keeping the M's together with Griffey (Favorite Player)/Arod/Randy Johnson (who i traded for back when he was on the Expos). Sad to say I've now come across this issue with the players upset with the clubhouse and it looks like it's Griffey I don't want to trade him but it may have to happen in order for my team to be happy again and to restore order in the club house. Sad day.

06-09-2015, 12:24 PM	#18
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,252	I just traded for Mike Napoli (basically addition by subtraction) and afterwards I get an email saying that our locker room has been quiet, but adding Mike would help if there were any issues. So I guess you could always look for a locker room leader to trade for.

06-09-2015, 12:56 PM	#19
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,812	I try to stay vague on my comments on here, but I haven't seen any outlandish lies on here in the general discussions. A few quick points: -Managers do matter, and it will be a "personal" decision. Lazy players probably don't get along with hard-*** managers. Hard-line managers can likely prevent all-out brawls in the clubhouse, but are probably still not as fun to work for when the team is doing well. -A bad influence can truly be a hard thing to manage, but leaders can certainly help. Give me a few leaders on the team, as well as a couple of truly great leaders, and they can likely keep a bad apple in check. -Otherwise, as mentioned, the best way to keep a good clubhouse is to win. Chemistry and morale can make a difference, but they're way less important than talent on the field. So if it were me, I'd keep anyone around if they're putting up great numbers on the field. But the minute that their production has problems, I would cut bait with them ASAP if they are a negative in the clubhouse.