Owner Expectations; can we turn this thing off? - Page 2

The Game · 06-01-2015, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Padreman

Yes I did a double take my game was in 1965 he wanted to win by 2025

So you are managing the Cubs?

ra7c7er · 06-01-2015, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Well I hope it was after a few seasons? I just don't want to be fired after one season, especially since this owner is nuts!

The biggest issue I had was acquire a power hitter. Playing with all independent leagues the game doesn't create high power guys. It doesn't create quality players at anything. High end of average is the best you're going to get unless the player development goes nuts and then you're lucky to get a rating of 11 or 12 (1-20 scale) in any category. You'll get higher numbers with the non-skill ratings (base stealing, bunt, hold runners, etc) but not with skill ratings.

So when you get the acquire a power hitter goal you literally can't complete it. You can't even get a neutral on it. The only way would be to cheat and create a player. I'm not doing that though.

The acquire player skill goals should be relative to the league your in. If the goal wants a power hitter and the "power hitters" in my league are all ratings of 10 (1-20 scale) if I acquire one of those guys I should get credit for the goal.

mking55 · 06-02-2015, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Anyone get fired yet? I know I won't complete any of my owners first year goals for me and my Indians.

I was fired. When I start a new game or take over an expansion franchise before the player dispersal draft, I edit my owner to be cheap and demanding. I start with the lowest budget and no fan interest. In other words, the owner wants miracles.

I got fired once after taking over the Colt '45's in 1962. We stunk and we couldn't get anyone in free agency. No one wanted to join us and the owner put the nix on many proposed deals. I think I lasted 3 years and I was history. That's okay, I can live with that.

It's a great concept. Clean it up, it improves the challenge of the game.

MizzouRah · 06-02-2015, 02:26 AM

As long as he gives me a few years to turn things around.. I can be happy with that.

Giants44 · 07-31-2015, 02:18 PM

by they way in answer to the original question - yes you can turn it off.

Giants44 · 07-31-2015, 03:30 PM

Plus you can edit your owner as you see fit (although I don't see a way to specifically edit the goals)

example 9 million and 12 why OOTP is the greatest game ever. The options are in for you to play YOUR way. For me sometimes I want full realism and want the owner to have the control and hold me accountable. Other saves I just want to control everything. With OOTP I can almost always find the option to get it just right. I may be a total fanboy, but only because the game has delivered for my year after year. My biggest complaint is I should be working right now, but I am lost in another OOTP alternate reality.

battists · 07-31-2015, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Well I hope it was after a few seasons? I just don't want to be fired after one season, especially since this owner is nuts!

Just to be safe, make a backup of your game on the last day of the season. Then, if you get fired, you can just restore, turn on the "cannot be fired" option, and continue.

ConStar · 08-01-2015, 01:32 AM

I just wish he'd quit sending me the same email (22 days in a row now) telling me he might have some goals for me in the "next few days" or whatever it is after he's had a chance to evaluate the program.

yawgmoth · 08-01-2015, 11:46 AM

I don't like the upgrade position goal. Oftentimes the owner will want me to upgrade a position I have multiple players eligible for and the person playing that position is doing well but it isn't their primary position. It just happens that the player playing LF for example isn't listed as LF as his primary position. My fourth outfielder may be the only LF on the roster as their primary position. It ends up just getting to the end of the season and putting a decently rated player in the desired position to fulfill the requirement rather than the owner looking at the roster and saying " yeah, we are covered in LF".

SirMichaelJordan · 08-01-2015, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by yawgmoth

I don't like the upgrade position goal. Oftentimes the owner will want me to upgrade a position I have multiple players eligible for and the person playing that position is doing well but it isn't their primary position. It just happens that the player playing LF for example isn't listed as LF as his primary position. My fourth outfielder may be the only LF on the roster as their primary position. It ends up just getting to the end of the season and putting a decently rated player in the desired position to fulfill the requirement rather than the owner looking at the roster and saying " yeah, we are covered in LF".

The entire way positions are handled need to be reworked IMO.

Other than that why not just switch the guy who is starting LF for you primary position to LF? The AI now does this consistently with the new update

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battists · 08-01-2015, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SirMichaelJordan

The entire way positions are handled need to be reworked IMO.

Don't disagree. But I think this is a challenge. I was thinking about this the other day in the context of football too... (WRs playing CB, etc.)

At the end of the day, in order for the game to make decisions about lineups, organization, and so on, it has to at least decide on a "primary position" for players, although of course that could change over time.

Really, the game needs to think more holistically in terms of 'infielders and outfielders,' most likely. But even there, you have outfielders who move to infield, and vice-versa.

It's a pretty tricky thing.

SirMichaelJordan · 08-01-2015, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

Don't disagree. But I think this is a challenge. I was thinking about this the other day in the context of football too... (WRs playing CB, etc.)

At the end of the day, in order for the game to make decisions about lineups, organization, and so on, it has to at least decide on a "primary position" for players, although of course that could change over time.

Really, the game needs to think more holistically in terms of 'infielders and outfielders,' most likely. But even there, you have outfielders who move to infield, and vice-versa.

It's a pretty tricky thing.

Yea the game really does not have a primary position for players let alone a preference.

Currently the player's primary position is the position he's currently starting at but this goes out of the window for backups.

I would like to see the player's fielding ratings more compatible to the player's listed primary position. I sometimes see a case where a player has a primary position at SS but his fielding ratings suggest that he should not be anywhere near that position let alone it being his highest rating which would be low because of his fielding ratings. You would think this type of player would have more experience at a position that takes advantage of his fielding skills. But that is an entire different topic.

battists · 08-01-2015, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SirMichaelJordan

Yea the game really does not have a primary position for players let alone a preference.

Currently the player's primary position is the position he's currently starting at but this goes out of the window for backups.

I actually don't think this is true. I think the game considers the player's primary position to be whatever he is set to as his "position" in game. This is why people complain that their owner says 'You need to upgrade at LF' when they have a strong player playing in LF, whose noted position is RF.

I think that's also what is used when you look at "position rankings" and stuff and the things that say "You have a weakness at 3B."

I think.

Timeless · 08-01-2015, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Padreman

Yeah I got that "what part of that didn't you understand" line too after doing 3 things he asked me to do. One dumb thing he has a
Long term goal for me to win a championship sometime within a 60 year period. Yes 60 years

The owner of the Seattle Pilots wants us in the World Series within 2 years!

But he was pleased I "acquired a quality player" in the form of closer John Gelnar, even though he was already on the team when I got there....

yawgmoth · 08-02-2015, 09:44 PM

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Other than that why not just switch the guy who is starting LF for you primary position to LF?

If the player is good at multiple positions I like to have the primary position set to the "rarer" good defender, e.g. CF rather than LF. This way I know just at a glance who I have at the harder to find positions at my disposal that meet my threshold ratings.

SlimKibbles · 08-02-2015, 11:01 PM

I ignore the owner expectations for the most part. I've only used the Reds in OOTP 16 so far and nearly all of the games I've started up, the owner has wanted me to sign Cueto to an extension. However, the very first time I started a game after downloading it he wanted me to sign Kevin Gregg to an extension. Of all the guys on the Reds to extend, Kevin Gregg is the owner's choice? Releasing Gregg was one of the first things I did in the game. Lol

07-31-2015, 02:18 PM	#25
Giants44 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 2,408	by they way in answer to the original question - yes you can turn it off. __________________ "In a text sim - Immersion is everything" -Me "Judge a man not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character" -Martin Luther King "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts." -Einstein "The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." -Muhammad Ali "Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." -Toby Harrah

07-31-2015, 03:30 PM	#26
Giants44 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 2,408	Plus you can edit your owner as you see fit (although I don't see a way to specifically edit the goals) example 9 million and 12 why OOTP is the greatest game ever. The options are in for you to play YOUR way. For me sometimes I want full realism and want the owner to have the control and hold me accountable. Other saves I just want to control everything. With OOTP I can almost always find the option to get it just right. I may be a total fanboy, but only because the game has delivered for my year after year. My biggest complaint is I should be working right now, but I am lost in another OOTP alternate reality. __________________ "In a text sim - Immersion is everything" -Me "Judge a man not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character" -Martin Luther King "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts." -Einstein "The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." -Muhammad Ali "Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." -Toby Harrah

08-02-2015, 11:01 PM	#36
SlimKibbles Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 35	Owner Expectations; can we turn this thing off? I ignore the owner expectations for the most part. I've only used the Reds in OOTP 16 so far and nearly all of the games I've started up, the owner has wanted me to sign Cueto to an extension. However, the very first time I started a game after downloading it he wanted me to sign Kevin Gregg to an extension. Of all the guys on the Reds to extend, Kevin Gregg is the owner's choice? Releasing Gregg was one of the first things I did in the game. Lol __________________

06-02-2015, 02:26 AM	#24
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,252	As long as he gives me a few years to turn things around.. I can be happy with that.

08-01-2015, 01:32 AM	#28
ConStar Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 205	I just wish he'd quit sending me the same email (22 days in a row now) telling me he might have some goals for me in the "next few days" or whatever it is after he's had a chance to evaluate the program.

08-01-2015, 11:46 AM	#29
yawgmoth Minors (Single A) Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 78	I don't like the upgrade position goal. Oftentimes the owner will want me to upgrade a position I have multiple players eligible for and the person playing that position is doing well but it isn't their primary position. It just happens that the player playing LF for example isn't listed as LF as his primary position. My fourth outfielder may be the only LF on the roster as their primary position. It ends up just getting to the end of the season and putting a decently rated player in the desired position to fulfill the requirement rather than the owner looking at the roster and saying " yeah, we are covered in LF".