.434 Average

aslanking · 09-04-2015, 07:42 PM

Ok, so i love this game. And what i love about it is that the statistics are so damn realistic. I've never had a player hit 60 homers, never had anyone with 150 rbis. No one's ever had a sub 1.75 era, no one has ever had more than 22 wins. Never had a hitting streak more than 32. So- yes- it mimics real baseball.

Until this year. My player, a SS, was unconscious this year. ended the year with a .434 average- more than .180 higher than the league average. While it was fun to see, I lament that it was so unrealistic. That is an impossible average. Mind you, this player is unedited. I traded a (future) Cy Young pitcher, a 2nd rd pick and 2 all stars (future) for him...and it has paid off well for both teams.

Any thoughts on how this much of an outlier occured.

BigCountryBumgarner · 09-04-2015, 07:45 PM

Check his BABIP is the only thing I can think of. He probably just got insanely lucky.

RchW · 09-04-2015, 07:52 PM

Show his ratings. I suspect he is pretty good.

Izz · 09-04-2015, 07:54 PM

High contact + low eye + high avoid Ks + good gap power is my guess.

aslanking · 09-04-2015, 08:28 PM

Here is his profile. But even granted all of the things you say as being true - it's impossible for a player to hit .434 and have 275 hits. Ichiro is the MLB record at 262 - and he only hit .370 that year.....

I guess my question would be - have you ever had a hitter in your league hit .400????

RchW · 09-04-2015, 08:35 PM

Yes, more than once in more than one league. I find it extremely cool. FWIW my leagues have decades of history so it's not unrealistic.

aslanking · 09-04-2015, 08:40 PM

You think i should sign him to an extension?

That will be a costly one.....

RchW · 09-04-2015, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by aslanking

Here is his profile. But even granted all of the things you say as being true - it's impossible for a player to hit .434 and have 275 hits. Ichiro is the MLB record at 262 - and he only hit .370 that year.....

I guess my question would be - have you ever had a hitter in your league hit .400????

If anyone is going to bat 0.400 this is the guy. Great contact, doesn't strike out, doesn't really walk and has decent power and gap. You couldn't ask for a better candidate. He's clearly one of the best players in the league and in his prime. He is likely to revert to his career BA over the next three seasons.

RchW · 09-04-2015, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aslanking

You think i should sign him to an extension?

That will be a costly one.....

Umm yeah, unless his injury history or defense is suspect. As a batter he is a stud.

aslanking · 09-04-2015, 08:53 PM

You said you've had .400 hitters in your history - what was the league average in those years. On par with my history? Higher, lower? I guess i COULD understand a .400 hitter if the league avg was 275 or 280....but 250???

I'm fairly certain he'll win MVP. That's the highest WAR in league history too

RchW · 09-04-2015, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by aslanking

You said you've had .400 hitters in your history - what was the league average in those years. On par with my history? Higher, lower? I guess i COULD understand a .400 hitter if the league avg was 275 or 280....but 250???

I'm fairly certain he'll win MVP. That's the highest WAR in league history too

Which explains why he hit 0.400. Outliers are part of the beauty of OOTP. If he hits like that for 2-3 seasons in a row then you may have a point.

NCBeachBum · 09-05-2015, 01:13 AM

Rogers Hornsby thinks this is a perfectly reasonable result.

RchW · 09-05-2015, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NCBeachBum

Rogers Hornsby thinks this is a perfectly reasonable result.

And there's only one Rogers!

RMc · 09-05-2015, 10:58 AM

Cool skin, aslanking. Where can I get it?

OakDragon · 09-05-2015, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RMc

Cool skin, aslanking. Where can I get it?

It's Questdog's Antique Skin. It's in Add-Ons Central.

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...in-ootp16.html

r0nster · 09-05-2015, 12:12 PM

I think its great that you got a player that has worked out to hit .400 records are meant to be broken. I love it when a player steps out from the normal and has a season that's superhuman as it were. To me it makes it more exciting to see and admittedly root for that player a bit. We get that even in the real world too.

aslanking · 09-05-2015, 12:56 PM

Take a look at his 2029 season. He was on his way to having a monster season when he missed 1/3 of the season. Had 26 homers and hasn't even come close to that in a full season since.

His health is an issue. He missed a lot of time when he was younger.

battists · 09-05-2015, 01:01 PM

This guy did it two years in a row (admittedly BARELY the second year):

League average in those two years was .264 and .261.

Déjà Bru · 09-05-2015, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

Yes, more than once in more than one league. I find it extremely cool. FWIW my leagues have decades of history so it's not unrealistic.

This is how I feel. I would welcome a (very) occasional anomaly like this as long as it's within the scope of entire baseball experience.

What the hell do I mean by this? (Sometimes I have to ask myself that question.

)

Well, consider that the result was not .534 or .634 batting average. That would upset me.

But .434 is within the realm of human baseball experience, as shown below. Granted, it's not likely to occur in the modern era, but it has occurred and, who knows, could happen again.

So, I would treasure this result in my league, on a par with DiMaggio's streak and Ripken's record, and even Williams' .406 which we have never seen again. It becomes fable, legend.

Of course, if you are a purist, you may think otherwise. No, .434 is not realistic these days. But could it happen? Yes.

OmahaBaseball · 09-05-2015, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

This guy did it two years in a row (admittedly BARELY the second year):

League average in those two years was .264 and .261.

How did he not lead the league after hitting .401? Lack of PA to qualify?

09-04-2015, 07:42 PM	#1
aslanking Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 189	.434 Average Ok, so i love this game. And what i love about it is that the statistics are so damn realistic. I've never had a player hit 60 homers, never had anyone with 150 rbis. No one's ever had a sub 1.75 era, no one has ever had more than 22 wins. Never had a hitting streak more than 32. So- yes- it mimics real baseball. Until this year. My player, a SS, was unconscious this year. ended the year with a .434 average- more than .180 higher than the league average. While it was fun to see, I lament that it was so unrealistic. That is an impossible average. Mind you, this player is unedited. I traded a (future) Cy Young pitcher, a 2nd rd pick and 2 all stars (future) for him...and it has paid off well for both teams. Any thoughts on how this much of an outlier occured. Attached Images

09-04-2015, 07:52 PM	#3
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	Show his ratings. I suspect he is pretty good. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

09-04-2015, 07:54 PM	#4
Izz Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 2,470	High contact + low eye + high avoid Ks + good gap power is my guess. __________________ Not only do I play OOTP but I also write science-fiction: My Website A brief history of the Australia-New Zealand Baseball League (AUNZBL 2019-2119)--A Dynasty Report The National Penterham Four-Bases Association--A Dynasty Report Last edited by Izz; 09-04-2015 at 07:55 PM.

09-04-2015, 08:28 PM	#5
aslanking Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 189	Here is his profile. But even granted all of the things you say as being true - it's impossible for a player to hit .434 and have 275 hits. Ichiro is the MLB record at 262 - and he only hit .370 that year..... I guess my question would be - have you ever had a hitter in your league hit .400???? Attached Images

09-04-2015, 08:35 PM	#6
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	Yes, more than once in more than one league. I find it extremely cool. FWIW my leagues have decades of history so it's not unrealistic. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

09-04-2015, 07:45 PM	#2
BigCountryBumgarner Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 29	Check his BABIP is the only thing I can think of. He probably just got insanely lucky.

09-04-2015, 08:40 PM	#7
aslanking Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 189	You think i should sign him to an extension? That will be a costly one.....

09-04-2015, 08:53 PM	#10
aslanking Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 189	You said you've had .400 hitters in your history - what was the league average in those years. On par with my history? Higher, lower? I guess i COULD understand a .400 hitter if the league avg was 275 or 280....but 250??? I'm fairly certain he'll win MVP. That's the highest WAR in league history too

09-05-2015, 01:13 AM	#12
NCBeachBum All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Topsail Island, NC, USA Posts: 1,049	Rogers Hornsby thinks this is a perfectly reasonable result. __________________ And ain't that a shame, shame, shame Shame, shame, the way you do Oh, it's a shame, shame, shame Shame, shame on you

09-05-2015, 10:58 AM	#14
RMc All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,659	Cool skin, aslanking. Where can I get it? __________________ "We're all behind our baseball team..."

09-05-2015, 12:12 PM	#16
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,053	I think its great that you got a player that has worked out to hit .400 records are meant to be broken. I love it when a player steps out from the normal and has a season that's superhuman as it were. To me it makes it more exciting to see and admittedly root for that player a bit. We get that even in the real world too.

09-05-2015, 12:56 PM	#17
aslanking Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 189	Take a look at his 2029 season. He was on his way to having a monster season when he missed 1/3 of the season. Had 26 homers and hasn't even come close to that in a full season since. His health is an issue. He missed a lot of time when he was younger.

09-05-2015, 01:01 PM	#18
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	This guy did it two years in a row (admittedly BARELY the second year): League average in those two years was .264 and .261. __________________ Come check out my dynasty report, Funky Times!