Odd Development?

[baseballer]

Has anyone ever seen the bottom two options in the development report? Adding a 5.0 to repertoire and improving from 1.5 to r% stars? Is velocity increases like that common, I don't think I have ever seen a bump that drastic. Note: This is an online league.

[munstermash]

I have never seen that kind of bumb, i need your pitching coach.

[Assos]

Now that is a bump! What is your online league settings on?

[RchW]

Does repertoire mean another pitch(s)?

Never seen that phrase.

[baseballer]

Originally Posted by Assos

Now that is a bump! What is your online league settings on?

Game Settings

� Scouts/Coaches = ON

� Injuries = LOW

� Ratings Scale = 20-80

� Batter Dev Speed = 1.000

� Batter Aging Speed = 1.000

� Pitcher Dev Speed = 1.000

� Pitcher Aging Speed = 1.000

� Talent Change Randomness = 100

� Draft Pick Compensation = ENABLED

� Playoff Rosters = ENABLED

[Assos]

Nothing out of the ordinary.....

[baseballer]

Originally Posted by RchW

Does repertoire mean another pitch(s)?

Never seen that phrase.

Yes, I have seen pitchers add pitches quite a few times and the report uses that phrase, but a "5.0" isn't even a pitch.

Another guy in the league with a regular pitch added:

[cheesestring]

Is it your commishes player? There are a lot of editable things that could contain typos if they were trying to cover their tracks. A bump like that seems fishy.

[NoOne]

did this occur in one month, or do you get a development report 1/year? if it was in one month i'd be really curious about someone editing the player. double check what's available in his history.

however, it's a 17-to-18 year old, and among other factors, the younger they are the more likely they see an increase in velocity. at 17, a year might be long enough for something like that naturally happening as opposed to an edit.

yeah, adding a pitch happens on occasion, too. is it a 5/10? 5/5? scale would help decide how unusual that addition is. ignoring potential i don't think those new pitches often start at an above average level. anything's possible, though. 5/10 wouldn't be too odd, i suspect.

[Izz]

Seems fishy to me, too.

%r could easily be someone mashing 5 on their keyboard, and the 5.0 looks like its supposed to go in the potential rating improved from 1.5 to ... line.

However, how would this output even happen? When adding a new pitch you can only choose from a list of pitches - you can't add a brand new one, can you? Could someone do this if they were importing a team roster/player, and got some of the txt file wrong?

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by baseballer

Has anyone ever seen the bottom two options in the development report? Adding a 5.0 to repertoire and improving from 1.5 to r% stars? Is velocity increases like that common, I don't think I have ever seen a bump that drastic. Note: This is an online league.

This player has been edited.

When OOTP development adds a pitch to a players repertoire, it tells you the type of pitch, as per the example showing the knuckle-curve.

When you edit a player and add a pitch to his repertoire, it shows as "added a 4, or 5, or 3, or whatever" to his repertoire.

I have played every version of this game and have never ever seen those kinds of jumps occur naturally, especially that kind of velocity increase at one time, let alone the jumps in stuff, movement, stamina, and overall potential.

Somebody has been messing with the file, trying to create some studs for their team.

I'd be leaving this league in an instant.

[Bluenoser]

Here's an example:

I just went into one of my solo leagues and took a random 2 pitch pitcher and added a third to his repertoire.

Here's how it shows:
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[NoOne]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

This player has been edited.

When OOTP development adds a pitch to a players repertoire, it tells you the type of pitch, as per the example showing the knuckle-curve.

When you edit a player and add a pitch to his repertoire, it shows as "added a 4, or 5, or 3, or whatever" to his repertoire.

I have played every version of this game and have never ever seen those kinds of jumps occur naturally, especially that kind of velocity increase at one time, let alone the jumps in stuff, movement, stamina, and overall potential.

Somebody has been messing with the file, trying to create some studs for their team.

I'd be leaving this league in an instant.

not arguing any point, because the entirety of the supposed development is a bit far-fetched to begin with. (especially if only 1 or 2 months between scouting reports)

although in regard to velocity only, i have seen a young'en jump at least ~7-10mph. i can't remember the exact amount but i was surprised. it's less likely that i have seen the most extreme case than if i had. i'm sure people have stories more extreme.

it's nice to know the game has consistent feedback on edited players. it's a nice red flag for multiplayer leagues to warn of corruption.

[NYYANKS98]

I've had this game a few months and never seen more than 1 or 2 levels in an increase. Going from 88 to 100 was so blatantly cheating I can't understand how whoever did that thought it would go unnoticed.

[Assos]

I have never used an editor to make a player different in the game.

[NCBeachBum]

Aw, c'mon guys. All he did was go from having the potential of a future average middle relief guy good for 2-3 innings when necessary to a future Hall of Fame starter pitching complete games in the course of a month. What's so odd about that?!?

[RchW]

Originally Posted by Assos

I have never used an editor to make a player different in the game.

I have but only to remove a defensive position for which the player should never play.

[Assos]

Originally Posted by RchW

I have but only to remove a defensive position for which the player should never play.

I am guessing a left handed Shortstop.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by Assos

I am guessing a left handed Shortstop.

No. In earlier versions mid 30's first basemen, still good hitters who had somehow retained vestigial ratings at SS were signed as FA by AI teams and used as starting SS.

It's better now but that issue led to defensive positions, ratings, and player use becoming my pet peeve about the game. I still edit a few players every season usually just to stop them being used over a better player.

[Doc_Brown]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

This player has been edited.

When OOTP development adds a pitch to a players repertoire, it tells you the type of pitch, as per the example showing the knuckle-curve.

When you edit a player and add a pitch to his repertoire, it shows as "added a 4, or 5, or 3, or whatever" to his repertoire.

I have played every version of this game and have never ever seen those kinds of jumps occur naturally, especially that kind of velocity increase at one time, let alone the jumps in stuff, movement, stamina, and overall potential.

Somebody has been messing with the file, trying to create some studs for their team.

I'd be leaving this league in an instant.

If it is the commissioner's players who are getting these bumps, I'd tell the rest of the league before leaving. I'd also go as far as naming the league/commissioner, so others don't make the mistake of joining it.