2-Seam Fastball/Sinker?

CM13492 · 01-18-2016, 06:32 AM

Well as this is my first post I would just like to say this is easily the best sports simulation game I have played so congratulations to all the ootp developments team!

My first question is a general baseball question, as a new baseball fan I am still attempting to get my head around the jargon particularly the many different pitch names (as a cricket fan I thought I would be better equipped to handle this than most but it still throws me sometimes!). In the reading I have done online I have seen the Sinker given as simply another name for a 2-seam fastball, is that correct? (I have just seen that fangraphs splits these up so I am doubtful Wikipedia has this right).

My second question relates to the Fastballs and Sinkers within OOTP 16, is the Fastball a combination of 4-seam and 2-seam or is it just the 4-seam variety with the Sinker as the 2-seam? In game I have seen players who seem to suggest both possibilities. Dallas Keuchel who pitched a 2 seamer 41% of the time in 2014 has no Sinker in game yet on the other side of the coin Rick Porcello pitched a 2 seamer 30% of the time in 2014 and according to fangraphs has never pitched a 'sinker' yet in-game has a sinker as his top offering along with his fastball and the same is true for David Price.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can clear this up for me

GoPedro99 · 01-18-2016, 01:54 PM

No. A sinker and 2-seam are very different. A sinker, as the name implies, "sinks". The ball drops as it gets close to the batter. A 2-seamer fades toward the dominant arm of the pither. Say a righty is pitching. A two seamer would fade off to the right as they throw it.

John Smith · 01-18-2016, 09:45 PM

Bear in mind that many of these pitches are a matter of putting a look on the ball that confuses the hitter. So each pitch is better described by the position of the seams in relation to the pitcher's fingers. Every combination can create a different illusion, which, in combination with the slight changes in aerodynamics creates the challenge that we call "hitting in the majors."

I doubt this answered your question, but maybe it helped somehow.

01-18-2016, 06:32 AM	#1
CM13492 Bat Boy Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 11	2-Seam Fastball/Sinker? Well as this is my first post I would just like to say this is easily the best sports simulation game I have played so congratulations to all the ootp developments team! My first question is a general baseball question, as a new baseball fan I am still attempting to get my head around the jargon particularly the many different pitch names (as a cricket fan I thought I would be better equipped to handle this than most but it still throws me sometimes!). In the reading I have done online I have seen the Sinker given as simply another name for a 2-seam fastball, is that correct? (I have just seen that fangraphs splits these up so I am doubtful Wikipedia has this right). My second question relates to the Fastballs and Sinkers within OOTP 16, is the Fastball a combination of 4-seam and 2-seam or is it just the 4-seam variety with the Sinker as the 2-seam? In game I have seen players who seem to suggest both possibilities. Dallas Keuchel who pitched a 2 seamer 41% of the time in 2014 has no Sinker in game yet on the other side of the coin Rick Porcello pitched a 2 seamer 30% of the time in 2014 and according to fangraphs has never pitched a 'sinker' yet in-game has a sinker as his top offering along with his fastball and the same is true for David Price. Thanks in advance to anyone who can clear this up for me

01-18-2016, 01:54 PM	#2
GoPedro99 All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 861	No. A sinker and 2-seam are very different. A sinker, as the name implies, "sinks". The ball drops as it gets close to the batter. A 2-seamer fades toward the dominant arm of the pither. Say a righty is pitching. A two seamer would fade off to the right as they throw it.

01-18-2016, 09:45 PM	#3
John Smith Bat Boy Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 19	Bear in mind that many of these pitches are a matter of putting a look on the ball that confuses the hitter. So each pitch is better described by the position of the seams in relation to the pitcher's fingers. Every combination can create a different illusion, which, in combination with the slight changes in aerodynamics creates the challenge that we call "hitting in the majors." I doubt this answered your question, but maybe it helped somehow.