"xst"

Blutarsky · 02-17-2016, 01:52 PM

I have used the search forum tool but cannot get a narrow result, just pages and pages of threads.

Many of my injured players have this "XST" listed by their diagnosis.

What is this?

Thank you.

actionjackson · 02-17-2016, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Blutarsky

I have used the search forum tool but cannot get a narrow result, just pages and pages of threads.

Many of my injured players have this "XST" listed by their diagnosis.

What is this?

Thank you.

I've honestly never seen that before. Could you possibly post a screenshot of one of these players so we can take a look?

Blutarsky · 02-17-2016, 02:49 PM

kq76 · 02-17-2016, 02:50 PM

Extended Spring Training?

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Some players stick around in extended because they are rehabbing injuries

What is extended spring training? | Indians Baseball Insider

I really don't know. I'm just guessing.

Blutarsky · 02-17-2016, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kq76

Extended Spring Training?

What is extended spring training? | Indians Baseball Insider

I really don't know. I'm just guessing.

That makes sense.

Blutarsky · 02-17-2016, 03:21 PM

I don't know if it is best to continue here or start a new thread, but here goes.

I have noticed in my very limited play time that injuries in this game are massive. Not necessarily in frequency because I don't have enough time in the game to notice, but in seriousness or duration. Everything injury seems to be months in duration. Ex. 4 months for a concussion. Most injuries and recovery times are 3+ months. No one ever seems to be out 2 weeks with a sore groin, knee, elbow etc... It is always a huge duration.

Is this a matter of settings? I have followed the settings that were posted on reddit and at least seem to be generally accepted as a good starting point for new players.

Any suggestions or is this just the way the game is?

actionjackson · 02-17-2016, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Blutarsky

I don't know if it is best to continue here or start a new thread, but here goes.

I have noticed in my very limited play time that injuries in this game are massive. Not necessarily in frequency because I don't have enough time in the game to notice, but in seriousness or duration. Everything injury seems to be months in duration. Ex. 4 months for a concussion. Most injuries and recovery times are 3+ months. No one ever seems to be out 2 weeks with a sore groin, knee, elbow etc... It is always a huge duration.

Is this a matter of settings? I have followed the settings that were posted on reddit and at least seem to be generally accepted as a good starting point for new players.

Any suggestions or is this just the way the game is?

I think that's a matter of confirmation bias over a limited sample size. I'll post pics of a pitcher that's been in my game for about 20 seasons now to show you what I mean. Also, remember that some guys do better than others with injuries (as in real life). Keep an eye on the bottom left corner where the injuries are listed (click on the pics to enlarge):

kq76 · 02-17-2016, 04:02 PM

There has been a great deal of study on the frequency of injuries and when you listen to our experts on the topic they seem to feel OOTP is pretty accurate with regard to them. And if anything, OOTP is a little light on injuries. Some times weird things can happen, but in general people here have been pretty content with OOTP's frequency of injuries for awhile now. Unless I've missed something.

The thing is, over a real baseball season it doesn't feel like there are as many injuries because they're more spread out over time and a lot of the injuries in real life we don't really hear about. In OOTP you see every injury in a short amount of time and because you're so invested in your team it can hurt even more.

Yeah, injuries to your best or favourite players suck, but they're a part of the game. And if you really don't want them, just lower the rate down as low as you want. You can also, like I do, try to make sure your backups play enough to make sure your starters don't get too exhausted and increase the likelihood of injury. Personally, I'm happy with OOTP's injuries.

Honorable_Pawn · 02-17-2016, 04:31 PM

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ugh...never. The worst thing in the world--worse than a hangnail--is watching a pitcher bat in a MLB game.

kq76 · 02-17-2016, 04:42 PM

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ugh...never. The worst thing in the world--worse than a hangnail--is watching a pitcher bat in a MLB game.

Maybe you should read the link. Pitchers don't bat with the SP-only DH.

If you want to discuss the DH, there are plenty of threads on the Talk Sports board.

Blutarsky · 02-17-2016, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kq76

There has been a great deal of study on the frequency of injuries and when you listen to our experts on the topic they seem to feel OOTP is pretty accurate with regard to them. And if anything, OOTP is a little light on injuries. Some times weird things can happen, but in general people here have been pretty content with OOTP's frequency of injuries for awhile now. Unless I've missed something.

The thing is, over a real baseball season it doesn't feel like there are as many injuries because they're more spread out over time and a lot of the injuries in real life we don't really hear about. In OOTP you see every injury in a short amount of time and because you're so invested in your team it can hurt even more.

Yeah, injuries to your best or favourite players suck, but they're a part of the game. And if you really don't want them, just lower the rate down as low as you want. You can also, like I do, try to make sure your backups play enough to make sure your starters don't get too exhausted and increase the likelihood of injury. Personally, I'm happy with OOTP's injuries.

Thanks, I want realism for sure. 4 months for a concussion seems more like a TBI than a concussion. I'll take the word of the vets here. I am not complaining, just asking questions.

actionjackson · 02-17-2016, 06:46 PM

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Thanks, I want realism for sure. 4 months for a concussion seems more like a TBI than a concussion. I'll take the word of the vets here. I am not complaining, just asking questions.

Justin Morneau was out forever IRL. Aaron Hill had one that lasted a long time. Concussions are serious business, and might as well be referred to as Traumatic Brain Injuries because if you get too many of them, you might be looking at CTE, which is a whole different kettle of fish, and not just career threatening, but life threatening, at the very least threatening to the quality of the sufferer's life.

Lukas Berger · 02-17-2016, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kq76

Extended Spring Training?

What is extended spring training? | Indians Baseball Insider

I really don't know. I'm just guessing.

Yeah, that's correct.

Blutarsky · 02-18-2016, 04:01 PM

I appreciate all of the replies.

I have a logjam of serviceable players on the train between AAA and the bigs. I shop some of them for trade hoping to get a prospect for some of them who are just surplus. The AI (I have trading set to the most difficult setting) will offer an array of 30+ players, some of whom are good, but who may also have a terrible contract. Not unexpected. When I attempt to get only a prospect back, it is always rejected, the "you've got to be kidding" message. Even when I pick the lowliest, no talent, no potential scrub stuck in their lowest minors it is still rejected. I can ask for a 35th round draft pick...rejected.

Am I doing something wrong? Expecting something unrealistic? I'm not asking for the other teams best young players by any stretch.

Déjà Bru · 02-18-2016, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Blutarsky

That makes sense.

Blutarsky, pending an answer to your latest question, I'd like to revisit that answer for XST which I am stuck on. I looked into the injuries.txt file and found no reference to "XST" and the "Extended Spring Training" suggestion sounds far-fetched to me. I was wondering if anybody had another explanation or guess.

actionjackson · 02-18-2016, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Blutarsky, pending an answer to your latest question, I'd like to revisit that answer for XST which I am stuck on. I looked into the injuries.txt file and found no reference to "XST" and the "Extended Spring Training" suggestion sounds far-fetched to me. I was wondering if anybody had another explanation or guess.

If lukasberger says it's extended spring training, that's good enough for me.

Lukas Berger · 02-18-2016, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Blutarsky, pending an answer to your latest question, I'd like to revisit that answer for XST which I am stuck on. I looked into the injuries.txt file and found no reference to "XST" and the "Extended Spring Training" suggestion sounds far-fetched to me. I was wondering if anybody had another explanation or guess.

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Originally Posted by actionjackson

If lukasberger says it's extended spring training, that's good enough for me.

It really is extended spring training

You won't find it in the injuries file as it's simply a manual input we use with the quickstart rosters to keep guys who start the year off in xst and then go to the SS leagues from being called up to the full season leagues by the ai.

Keeps the rosters a teeny bit more realistic for a few months.

02-17-2016, 01:52 PM	#1
Blutarsky Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 18	"xst" I have used the search forum tool but cannot get a narrow result, just pages and pages of threads. Many of my injured players have this "XST" listed by their diagnosis. What is this? Thank you.

02-17-2016, 03:21 PM	#6
Blutarsky Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 18	Another question I don't know if it is best to continue here or start a new thread, but here goes. I have noticed in my very limited play time that injuries in this game are massive. Not necessarily in frequency because I don't have enough time in the game to notice, but in seriousness or duration. Everything injury seems to be months in duration. Ex. 4 months for a concussion. Most injuries and recovery times are 3+ months. No one ever seems to be out 2 weeks with a sore groin, knee, elbow etc... It is always a huge duration. Is this a matter of settings? I have followed the settings that were posted on reddit and at least seem to be generally accepted as a good starting point for new players. Any suggestions or is this just the way the game is?

02-17-2016, 04:02 PM	#8
kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 11,526	There has been a great deal of study on the frequency of injuries and when you listen to our experts on the topic they seem to feel OOTP is pretty accurate with regard to them. And if anything, OOTP is a little light on injuries. Some times weird things can happen, but in general people here have been pretty content with OOTP's frequency of injuries for awhile now. Unless I've missed something. The thing is, over a real baseball season it doesn't feel like there are as many injuries because they're more spread out over time and a lot of the injuries in real life we don't really hear about. In OOTP you see every injury in a short amount of time and because you're so invested in your team it can hurt even more. Yeah, injuries to your best or favourite players suck, but they're a part of the game. And if you really don't want them, just lower the rate down as low as you want. You can also, like I do, try to make sure your backups play enough to make sure your starters don't get too exhausted and increase the likelihood of injury. Personally, I'm happy with OOTP's injuries. __________________ My OOTP Wishlist \| My FAQ List OOTP Wiki \| Your Recommended Team Nicknames, By City (A Crowdsourced Project)

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02-18-2016, 04:01 PM	#14
Blutarsky Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 18	Figure I'll ask another... I appreciate all of the replies. I have a logjam of serviceable players on the train between AAA and the bigs. I shop some of them for trade hoping to get a prospect for some of them who are just surplus. The AI (I have trading set to the most difficult setting) will offer an array of 30+ players, some of whom are good, but who may also have a terrible contract. Not unexpected. When I attempt to get only a prospect back, it is always rejected, the "you've got to be kidding" message. Even when I pick the lowliest, no talent, no potential scrub stuck in their lowest minors it is still rejected. I can ask for a 35th round draft pick...rejected. Am I doing something wrong? Expecting something unrealistic? I'm not asking for the other teams best young players by any stretch.

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