The Critics Have Spoken And We're #1! - Page 2

Right Field · 04-23-2016, 04:02 AM

Sample size is too small. Even if you go to the Steam page, which also has good reviews, it only has 134 of them. Compare that to another indie game, Kerbal Space Program, which has 29,389. Patting yourself on the back and saying job well done is a bit premature. I for one am not impressed. OOTP is a really good game, I like it. But, there is plenty of room for improvement.

Reggie · 04-23-2016, 08:16 AM

I wonder how many employees of other companies we have in here?

kq76 · 04-23-2016, 09:12 AM

Sample size? Who cares. The fact is OOTP is a niche program, we all know that, and while we might all want more fans of the game, I think we should be comfortable in knowing that OOTP will never have as much of a mass appeal as some other games. Sure, there's plenty of room for improvement or additions, not many would argue otherwise, but it's still great as it is and there's no reason not to celebrate that. No, you celebrate it and then the next day you get back to work and ask yourself, "okay, so what do we work on next?".

PSUColonel · 04-23-2016, 12:56 PM

Well, my question is: there are clearly more than seven reviews of OOOtP (which are all positive by the way) so why won't Metacritic use them? I understand them not using some of the "baseball magazine type reviews"...but as far as straight up gaming reviews, they should be using them.

Hammercraft · 04-23-2016, 01:11 PM

It's inevitable now that companies will be sending you buyout offers. Keep a level head

NotMuchTime · 04-23-2016, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Right Field

Sample size is too small. Even if you go to the Steam page, which also has good reviews, it only has 134 of them. Compare that to another indie game, Kerbal Space Program, which has 29,389. Patting yourself on the back and saying job well done is a bit premature. I for one am not impressed. OOTP is a really good game, I like it. But, there is plenty of room for improvement.

A lot of room!!

rjl518 · 04-23-2016, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NotMuchTime

A lot of room!!

Not as much as you think.
Markus and his team have been working on this game and its later versions since 1999.
Name me another baseball management simulation that has MLB and MLBPA licensing.
Give credit to where its due.
There is no other game like OOTP!

Doc_Brown · 04-23-2016, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NotMuchTime

A lot of room!!

The day Markus, Andreas, Matt and everyone else who works on OOTP, decide/think there's no improvements needed is the day I stop buying OOTP.

They work their asses off, trying to improve the game. You know right now they're probably working on a new patch to tighten up some stuff. I also love the fact that they don't get to say 2 months after release and say "that's it for this game, any issues that now come up too bad, we'll try and fix it for the next game".

Statsman1 · 04-23-2016, 03:39 PM

Congratulations Markus and company!!

Now if you could only live up to the rating Metacritic gave OOTP 2007*...

*Kidding, of course!

MrBojangles · 04-23-2016, 10:48 PM

Fantastic guys!! This is the only PC game I play.

swoboda · 04-24-2016, 11:24 AM

Congratulations to everyone involved in making this game as good as it is. Happy to see you getting some recognition beyond the loyal user base, of which I am happy to be a member

RchW · 04-26-2016, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Right Field

Sample size is too small. Even if you go to the Steam page, which also has good reviews, it only has 134 of them. Compare that to another indie game, Kerbal Space Program, which has 29,389. Patting yourself on the back and saying job well done is a bit premature. I for one am not impressed. OOTP is a really good game, I like it. But, there is plenty of room for improvement.

I've worked for 43 years. There is always room for improvement and I do improve. Nobody is resting on their laurels here.

hammer75563 · 04-26-2016, 09:57 PM

It is a great game. It has been for years, but it is crashing way too often in 3d when you play games out.

Lukas Berger · 04-27-2016, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by hammer75563

It is a great game. It has been for years, but it is crashing way too often in 3d when you play games out.

Please, file a bug report on this!

hammer75563 · 04-27-2016, 02:57 AM

There are literally two pages worth of complaints in the bugs forum on this. Including a long post involving screen captures of the latest crash on one guy's system. It appears to have something to do with the internet part of the game. Every time any other program updates the whole game locks up. But who knows? Look. This is the best game on the internet, no doubt. But there are people out there who are reading all of these posts whose games aren't working. They are paying customers, too. I know everything will be straightened out in updates. The new comers don't, and 3d was designed to attract new comers. You can see why they are a little short tempered?

NoOne · 04-27-2016, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TribeFanInNC

Take that, Sid Meier's Gettysburg!!!!!!! (alltime #32)

(There's a Sid Meier's Gettysburg?)

there is a sid meier's "everything"... nothing tops sid meier's Pirates! (1987)

maybe some nostalgia involved... the longer it's been the greater it gets in memory! i retired with 3,000+acres of land, a high ranking royal, the hottest wife possible, and numerous saved several family members that i had no idea existed... LoL!

Markus Heinsohn · 04-28-2016, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by hammer75563

It is a great game. It has been for years, but it is crashing way too often in 3d when you play games out.

This is fixed in today's patch.

Eugene Church · 04-28-2016, 06:50 PM

I was overjoyed with OOTP3!

It was the most remarkable thing I had ever imagined... in the 1950s I dreamed about a game that would keep track of the league stats and league standings... and lo and behold in 2002 I found it!

Markus and the OOTP team have done a truly remarkable job... actually an UN-BE-LEAV-ABLE JOB!

I would have been happy just to have OOTP3... extrapolate that feeling a million-fold and that's how I feel today.

Way to go Markus!

rudel.dietrich · 04-29-2016, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Right Field

Sample size is too small. Even if you go to the Steam page, which also has good reviews, it only has 134 of them. Compare that to another indie game, Kerbal Space Program, which has 29,389. Patting yourself on the back and saying job well done is a bit premature. I for one am not impressed. OOTP is a really good game, I like it. But, there is plenty of room for improvement.

Thank you for this bit of sanity.
This forum has grown to become way too fanboyish.

OOTP is the #3 or maybe #2 best sports sim.
It is a fantastic game. But declaring it the best ever is a nice marketing ploy but I think stands in the way of progress which has stagnated in the last few versions.

RchW · 04-30-2016, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rudel.dietrich

Thank you for this bit of sanity.
This forum has grown to become way too fanboyish.

OOTP is the #3 or maybe #2 best sports sim.
It is a fantastic game. But declaring it the best ever is a nice marketing ploy but I think stands in the way of progress which has stagnated in the last few versions.

You're overreacting. Anyone working in business today should know what "Puffery" is and that it is ubiquitous. As for the "fanboy" slam I'm glad so many fanboys work on this game. Contrary to your sneer many do the"grunt work" required to identify issues in the game which the developers can fix.

04-23-2016, 09:12 AM	#23
kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 11,652	Sample size? Who cares. The fact is OOTP is a niche program, we all know that, and while we might all want more fans of the game, I think we should be comfortable in knowing that OOTP will never have as much of a mass appeal as some other games. Sure, there's plenty of room for improvement or additions, not many would argue otherwise, but it's still great as it is and there's no reason not to celebrate that. No, you celebrate it and then the next day you get back to work and ask yourself, "okay, so what do we work on next?". __________________ My OOTP Wishlist \| My FAQ List OOTP Wiki \| Your Recommended Team Nicknames, By City (A Crowdsourced Project)

04-23-2016, 03:39 PM	#29
Statsman1 Major Leagues Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Marmora, Ontario, Canada Posts: 340	Congratulations Markus and company!! Now if you could only live up to the rating Metacritic gave OOTP 2007... Kidding, of course! __________________ Statsman1

04-24-2016, 11:24 AM	#31
swoboda All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Guarding The Line Posts: 1,220	Congratulations to everyone involved in making this game as good as it is. Happy to see you getting some recognition beyond the loyal user base, of which I am happy to be a member __________________ "...If you want to look ahead to the bottom of the ninth, the Mets will be sending up Buddy Harrelson, Jerry Buchek , and Don Bosch, we'll be right back after this word from Rheingold Beer" The late great Lindsey Nelson

04-28-2016, 06:50 PM	#38
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 35,853	I was overjoyed with OOTP3! It was the most remarkable thing I had ever imagined... in the 1950s I dreamed about a game that would keep track of the league stats and league standings... and lo and behold in 2002 I found it! Markus and the OOTP team have done a truly remarkable job... actually an UN-BE-LEAV-ABLE JOB! I would have been happy just to have OOTP3... extrapolate that feeling a million-fold and that's how I feel today. Way to go Markus! Last edited by Eugene Church; 04-28-2016 at 06:52 PM.

04-23-2016, 04:02 AM	#21
Right Field Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 11	Sample size is too small. Even if you go to the Steam page, which also has good reviews, it only has 134 of them. Compare that to another indie game, Kerbal Space Program, which has 29,389. Patting yourself on the back and saying job well done is a bit premature. I for one am not impressed. OOTP is a really good game, I like it. But, there is plenty of room for improvement.

04-23-2016, 08:16 AM	#22
Reggie Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 442	I wonder how many employees of other companies we have in here?

04-23-2016, 12:56 PM	#24
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,094	Well, my question is: there are clearly more than seven reviews of OOOtP (which are all positive by the way) so why won't Metacritic use them? I understand them not using some of the "baseball magazine type reviews"...but as far as straight up gaming reviews, they should be using them.

04-23-2016, 01:11 PM	#25
Hammercraft All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 729	It's inevitable now that companies will be sending you buyout offers. Keep a level head

04-23-2016, 10:48 PM	#30
MrBojangles All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: low and inside Posts: 568	Fantastic guys!! This is the only PC game I play.

04-26-2016, 09:57 PM	#33
hammer75563 Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 12	It is a great game. It has been for years, but it is crashing way too often in 3d when you play games out.

04-27-2016, 02:57 AM	#35
hammer75563 Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 12	There are literally two pages worth of complaints in the bugs forum on this. Including a long post involving screen captures of the latest crash on one guy's system. It appears to have something to do with the internet part of the game. Every time any other program updates the whole game locks up. But who knows? Look. This is the best game on the internet, no doubt. But there are people out there who are reading all of these posts whose games aren't working. They are paying customers, too. I know everything will be straightened out in updates. The new comers don't, and 3d was designed to attract new comers. You can see why they are a little short tempered?