Gambo and T_Wil1 Photopack

[oldtimers]

Looking for Ryan Klesko pic with the braves not a Topps image.

[rico43]

Originally Posted by oldtimers

looking for ryan klesko pic with the braves not a topps image.

[rico43]

Originally Posted by doors11

could someone please tell me where to view the topps uploads that you get these pictures from.. i'm a big Jim Ray Hart fan and would would love to see these

Thank You

Index of /images/13076

[FatJack]

Don't know if this is still a need for anyone (I remember that it was at one time). This is Mark Ross circa 1983, but the uniform is good on either side of that. It's currently for sale from eBay seller beliveau.

[rrb77]

Atlanta Braves

[RUKen]

Louisville Base Ball Team of the Season of 1898

[baseball-birthdays.com]

James Richard Sullivan, 1923 Cleveland Indians, a cleaned sample taken from a recently purchased wirephoto.

[rico43]

The final stop in the lanky left-hander's career at age 37. In 22 games, went 1-0, 4.76 for the 1972 Cubs.

Trumps (so to speak) airbrush job in 1972 Topps set.

[Merkle923]

18-game Yankee reliever.

Plus, today's Topps uploads: 566-567 Randy Hammon; 568-571 Steve Hamilton; 572-575 Rich Hand; 576-579 Jack Hamilton; 580-581 Steve Hamrick; 582-585 Ike Hampton; 586-587 Preston Hanna; 588-591 Dave Hamilton; 592-593 Roger Hambright; 594-597 Tom Haller; 598-601 Tom Hall; 602-605 Jim Hardin

[Merkle923]

37 games in Kansas City at the end of his career as a very, very, very thin lefthander:

[Merkle923]

Not many of this never-quite-made-it catching prospect, with his original team the Mets:

[Merkle923]

Onetime Oriole starter, at the end, with the Braves (1972).

Infamous for seeing his onetime Williamsport Mets teammate Jerry Koosman on the field before Game 3 of the 1969 World Series and telling him "you guys don't belong on the same field as us." Died piloting his own aircraft, reportedly in his last moments swerving his stalled craft towards a construction site and away from - a baseball field full of kids.

[rico43]

GZ566-567 would seem to be longtime prospect Randy Hammon (Giants 1977-79) who toiled for 11 years in the minors without a shot. Original Royals draftee (1969-75) who also spent 1976 in the Mets system. Shown here in a 1979 Class AAA team issue.

[Merkle923]

It's not exactly pro wrestling or becoming the author of two million western stories, but Mr. Hammon went into... Retirement planning!

[Merkle923]

While we're over here on the shoulder of the road, here is the aforementioned Yankees' reliever in his pre-MLB career as a forward with the Lakers during their last two seasons in Minneapolis (his last NBA game came in December, 1959).

This is obviously a team-issued publicity shot and good luck finding those from the one-step-up-from-playground era of the NBA (in Hamilton's last year, the New York Knicks still played some home games in the 5,000 seat 69th Armory). However, in case anybody's looking for such vintage pro basketball images, most of them were preserved in a publication called "Basketball's Best" which was published from 1953 into the '70s, and actually issued all-ABA issues in 1968 and 1969:

[rrb77]

Rico: a couple minor typos in your GZ list on page 1372:
546-547 Toby Harrah instead of 549-547
582-585 Ike Hampton instead of 582-583

also 564 you have listed as Jackie Gutierrez. I believe it is Cesar Gutierrez.

[custard48]

Originally Posted by FatJack

I don't know the innards of Wrigley but, if you look at the original, that strip is precisely at the point of discoloration--certainly at least implying it should be grass and, thus, grass color.

It appears that there's a strip in Wrigley Field foul territory (or at least it was there in the early days of the Mets) that is not made of grass. Perhaps it served as a pitching rubber. What do you think?

[Merkle923]

You mean the area around the bullpen pitching rubber in the background, or the area around the plate in the mid-ground?

[FatJack]

Originally Posted by custard48

It appears that there's a strip in Wrigley Field foul territory (or at least it was there in the early days of the Mets) that is not made of grass. Perhaps it served as a pitching rubber. What do you think?

I see what you're saying and you're probably right. But, even then, the strip should be brownish (looks like dirt to me) and not blue. In any case, when I retouched the photo for the final time, I made it grass green and it looks fine (great even), even if its inaccurate.

Merkle: this is a continuation of our discussion of the Foss image. When I initially worked to eliminate the discoloration in the image, there's a strip of bluish grey about waist high that I thought looked like it should have been grass, with the caveat that I don't know Wrigley. So custard has provided an image demonstrating that that strip (the one around the plate, btw) is not grass as I thought, but instead its what appears to me to be a dirt cut-out. In this case, we may both be right in that the strip is not grass, but it still looks to me like part of the image's discoloration problem.

[FatJack]

By the way, since Foss came up again, I meant to mention that he was with the Mets in 1963 as well as 1962--yes, during the regular season.

Foss had opened the spring with a great outing....in an intrasquad game (proving, as he had the previous spring, that he could beat the Mets). But he was fairly awful the rest of the spring. Leaving out the intrasquad game, I think his '63 spring ERA was around 9.00. Nonetheless, he broke camp with the team (it should be mentioned, here, that, at the time, the rules allowed teams to carry 28 players for the first month of the season).

The season opened on April 9 with Foss in the pen. And the Mets showed they were much improved over the previous season by "only" losing the first 8 games (they'd lost the first 9 in '62). Every game, Casey had Foss warming up in the pen. Every game. But Foss never got the call (which was odd, since Casey did call down to the pen for players who weren't even on the team on a fairly regular basis).

Finally, the Mets scheduled Foss to pitch in the May 6 exhibition against West Point. Foss begged off, saying something to the effect of, "With all the pitching you've had me doing in the pen, I feel like my arm's going to fall off." Foss, though, was really begging off because he saw it as a no-win situation; if you beat West Point, well, you're supposed to and, if you don't, then you're the joke of the league.

The Mets beat West Point 3-0 (Tracy Stallard--whom Casey called Larsen, as in Don Larsen--pitched like Koufax). Larry Foss--who Casey called "Foos"--did not pitch. Two days later, he was traded to the Braves for Chico Fernandez. Foss spent the rest of the year in Denver, retiring at season's end. It was cut down day, anyway, but you have to think begging off a pitching assignment had something to do with his being moved.