Do You Retire Players Who Died IRL In Your League?

The Game · 04-29-2016, 04:10 PM

Coming up on 1979. i have 2 active players who die in '79. Thurman Munson & John Lennon.
Do you kill off players in historical leagues and should i kill off Munson. i will retire Lennon after the '79 season.

kq76 · 04-29-2016, 04:42 PM

No, because the great thing about OOTP is you get to see what might have happened. Besides, if you're doing a long sim, that's a lot of early deaths to account for.

Does OOTP do anything for dead players when it comes to recalc, etc?

andyhdz · 04-29-2016, 05:14 PM

speaking of wasn't player death going to be made an option in ootp 17? I don't see it.

Assos · 04-29-2016, 08:25 PM

I think there is an issue with the licence, the game could kill off a current player and that would be a no no in the MLBPA eyes. God forbid someone posted it to twitter and because it is on the internet, it must be true.

actionjackson · 04-29-2016, 10:47 PM

The Game: John Lennon died December 8th, 1980, so you can squeeze one more season out of him than you thought you could. Sweet huh?

ThatSeventiesGuy · 04-30-2016, 12:47 AM

Nope. I like to see what they could have done if they'd lived.

Ken Hubbs didn't do much...got picked in the expansion draft by the Padres, IIRC, and was out of baseball three seasons later. Lyman Bostock lasted until about 1985, had a pretty solid career. Not HOF, but at least Hall of Pretty Darned Good. Thurman Munson didn't make the HOF, but was close. Lasted until around '84, I think.

The Game · 04-30-2016, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by actionjackson

The Game: John Lennon died December 8th, 1980, so you can squeeze one more season out of him than you thought you could. Sweet huh?

For some reason i was thinking he dies in January of 80.

BigRed75 · 04-30-2016, 11:22 AM

You should post a request in the facegen thread for a John Lennon facegen. Somebody asked for a Trump facegen and got it, so John Lennon should totally get a facegen

The Game · 04-30-2016, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRed75

You should post a request in the facegen thread for a John Lennon facegen. Somebody asked for a Trump facegen and got it, so John Lennon should totally get a facegen

That is his FG

risp2out · 04-30-2016, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Game

i will retire Lennon after the '79 season.

Whatever gets you through the night. It's all right. It's all right.

jpeters1734 · 05-01-2016, 06:49 AM

yeah i always "unretire" oscar tavares in my games

Reed · 05-01-2016, 07:02 AM

Yes, I play historical so I retire players and and have them retire when they did in real life. Otherwise, you're playing fictional IMO.

Roggie · 05-02-2016, 04:56 PM

Unless I'm making sure all the players are on their actual teams and just doing sims to see how it turns out, I don't see any reason to. It's a different "timeline" so they are on different teams. Won't be in the same situations so no reason to think they would have died at the exact same time.

dynaboyj · 05-02-2016, 05:29 PM

I had a sim back in OOTP13 where Doug Million, a real-life promising minor leaguer who had a fatal heart attack around 20, became a beast with 5,000 strikeouts. I wouldn't give that kind of situation up for the world.

dmacgreg37 · 05-02-2016, 05:37 PM

I don't play a lot of historical with real-life guys, but if I did, I would probably pick a certain point in history, and then everything after that would be up to the game, including that.

The Game · 05-02-2016, 06:09 PM

John Lennon who appeared in my league as a clone of Jim Palmer? i killed off December 8th 1980. Munson i did not kill off. i will post his stats later on.
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ml#post4029900

Art99 · 05-03-2016, 01:12 AM

I never retire anyone. Unlike in real life you'd know well in advance when someone like Munson died so you'd have another catcher ready anyway so that would be unrealistic too.

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04-29-2016, 04:10 PM	#1
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	Do You Retire Players Who Died IRL In Your League? Coming up on 1979. i have 2 active players who die in '79. Thurman Munson & John Lennon. Do you kill off players in historical leagues and should i kill off Munson. i will retire Lennon after the '79 season. Attached Images __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong"

04-29-2016, 04:42 PM	#2
kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 11,654	No, because the great thing about OOTP is you get to see what might have happened. Besides, if you're doing a long sim, that's a lot of early deaths to account for. Does OOTP do anything for dead players when it comes to recalc, etc? __________________ My OOTP Wishlist \| My FAQ List OOTP Wiki \| Your Recommended Team Nicknames, By City (A Crowdsourced Project)

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ThatSeventiesGuy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 3,424	Nope. I like to see what they could have done if they'd lived. Ken Hubbs didn't do much...got picked in the expansion draft by the Padres, IIRC, and was out of baseball three seasons later. Lyman Bostock lasted until about 1985, had a pretty solid career. Not HOF, but at least Hall of Pretty Darned Good. Thurman Munson didn't make the HOF, but was close. Lasted until around '84, I think. __________________ https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...00&postcount=1

04-30-2016, 11:22 AM	#8
BigRed75 Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,430	You should post a request in the facegen thread for a John Lennon facegen. Somebody asked for a Trump facegen and got it, so John Lennon should totally get a facegen __________________ Mainline team SPTT team Was not a Snag fan...until I saw the fallout once he was gone and realized what a good job he was actually doing. - Ty Cobb

04-29-2016, 05:14 PM	#3
andyhdz All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Fresno, CA by way of Texas Posts: 1,754	speaking of wasn't player death going to be made an option in ootp 17? I don't see it.

04-29-2016, 08:25 PM	#4
Assos All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Just on the fair side of the foul pole! Posts: 1,772	I think there is an issue with the licence, the game could kill off a current player and that would be a no no in the MLBPA eyes. God forbid someone posted it to twitter and because it is on the internet, it must be true.

04-29-2016, 10:47 PM	#5
actionjackson Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 6,163	The Game: John Lennon died December 8th, 1980, so you can squeeze one more season out of him than you thought you could. Sweet huh?

05-01-2016, 06:49 AM	#11
jpeters1734 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Juust a bit outside... Posts: 6,093	yeah i always "unretire" oscar tavares in my games __________________ "Cannonball Coming!" Go Bucs!! Founder and League Caretaker of the Professional Baseball Circuit, www.probaseballcircuit.com An Un-Official Guide to Minor League Management in OOTP 21 Ratings Scale Conversion Cross-Reference Cheat Sheet

05-01-2016, 07:02 AM	#12
Reed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 2,339	Yes, I play historical so I retire players and and have them retire when they did in real life. Otherwise, you're playing fictional IMO.

05-02-2016, 04:56 PM	#13
Roggie Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 95	Unless I'm making sure all the players are on their actual teams and just doing sims to see how it turns out, I don't see any reason to. It's a different "timeline" so they are on different teams. Won't be in the same situations so no reason to think they would have died at the exact same time.

05-02-2016, 05:29 PM	#14
dynaboyj Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Baltimore Posts: 307	I had a sim back in OOTP13 where Doug Million, a real-life promising minor leaguer who had a fatal heart attack around 20, became a beast with 5,000 strikeouts. I wouldn't give that kind of situation up for the world.

05-02-2016, 05:37 PM	#15
dmacgreg37 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 490	I don't play a lot of historical with real-life guys, but if I did, I would probably pick a certain point in history, and then everything after that would be up to the game, including that.

05-02-2016, 06:09 PM	#16
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	John Lennon who appeared in my league as a clone of Jim Palmer? i killed off December 8th 1980. Munson i did not kill off. i will post his stats later on. http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ml#post4029900 Attached Images __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong" Last edited by The Game; 05-03-2016 at 01:58 AM.

05-03-2016, 01:12 AM	#17
Art99 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 242	I never retire anyone. Unlike in real life you'd know well in advance when someone like Munson died so you'd have another catcher ready anyway so that would be unrealistic too.