Best way to learn a new team

ForeverRoyalKC · 04-15-2018, 10:15 PM

Seeking your opinions on the best way to learn a new team. As an example, I am a Royals fan and know the team, their minors and minors players, etc. I know nothing much of, let's say the Phillies. So if I want to do something new and take the Phillies thru a season, what's the best steps to learn the team to educate myself thoroughly?? 1st step, 2nd step. etc.

Curve Ball Dave · 04-15-2018, 11:49 PM

There's no easy way to do it. You have to put in time to study each player and get to "know" him. You will not learn your team in one season. This happens whenever I set up a new league and do a draft. It takes a couple of seasons at least to really know your players, especially the minor leaguers. Throw in the changes due to player development (for better or worse) over time and getting to know your organization is that much more difficult.

dtizzle · 04-16-2018, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Curve Ball Dave

There's no easy way to do it. You have to put in time to study each player and get to "know" him. You will not learn your team in one season. This happens whenever I set up a new league and do a draft. It takes a couple of seasons at least to really know your players, especially the minor leaguers. Throw in the changes due to player development (for better or worse) over time and getting to know your organization is that much more difficult.

How about run an expansion team? Then you’ve hand picked your entire roster and you’ll know the whole gang.

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Llamaboy · 04-16-2018, 08:14 AM

I agree with posts above that it takes time. When I start a new game with a new team, I tend to try to focus on one piece at a time, otherwise it becomes daunting. So I'll start by looking at my major league pitching staff for example, then go to the players page and the minors tab and look at the best pitchers in my miniors. I tend to try to focus on learning the MLB-ready talent first, and then begin to learn my minors. I don't know if it's the best way, but it's the way I do it!

Curve Ball Dave · 04-16-2018, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dtizzle

How about run an expansion team? Then you’ve hand picked your entire roster and you’ll know the whole gang.

Yes, but you still don't know how all the proverbial pieces will fit together.

Bluenoser · 04-16-2018, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoyalKC

Seeking your opinions on the best way to learn a new team. As an example, I am a Royals fan and know the team, their minors and minors players, etc. I know nothing much of, let's say the Phillies. So if I want to do something new and take the Phillies thru a season, what's the best steps to learn the team to educate myself thoroughly?? 1st step, 2nd step. etc.

How did you get to know the Royals so well?

Lather, rinse, repeat.

NoOne · 04-16-2018, 10:44 AM

It's probably and advantage to run a team you are not familiar with... less bias based on a "name" which may or may not match public perception in that region.

focus on tangible things with a causal realtionship instead of a "name". liekly to make better and more rational decisions.

let ratings and stats dictate.. shelve everythign else... much easier with a team you have no emotional attachment to -- for most people. i'm a alien in this regard

i don't even suport friends or family when they are nefarious or are on the wrong side of history etc.. most people protect their own even in the face of incontrivertable evidence.. and that is just whacky to me. they can still be 'family' but they have to be punished for bad behaviour too.

BBGiovanni · 04-16-2018, 12:35 PM

My favorite way to do this is to manage up through the minors. Assuming you don't mind starting your ml career after a couple of years, start as the A+ team's manager. You could even do it by half-years, moving up at midseason. You'll enjoy catching up to the best prospects, and get sick of the AI sticking you with the same roster-filler over amd over. But you'll definitely know your players.

Make sure you "cannot be fired" though

wallewalls · 04-16-2018, 05:34 PM

Taking over a real life team? I always research their farm systems, and read their teams news for a few days to see what things are like and how things are going

stealofhome · 04-17-2018, 02:16 PM

I set up a spreadsheet for an organizational depth chart. Look at high potential players to fill each spot and strength at the major leagues. That helps to find areas of strength and weakness to fill through trade /draft.

Timofmars · 04-20-2018, 12:38 PM

I just open up a notepad file, then sort the whole team by current overall ability. Set it to look at all batters first. Then write in the notepad where the top player should probably go (and make a note of other positions he may be decently capable at), and note if their salary is too high for their ability so you should look to offload them if you can.

Once you figured out a starting lineup of positions (don't worry about batting order), and a few more fringe players that can be backups, you're done with that. You also only really need to worry about top players. If the best you have for some parts of you starting lineup are some 20/80 guys, then don't fret too much because you should be able to get at least some minor upgrades there through trades.

For pitchers, again sort the top guys, check for capability of being a starter, and find your best 5 starters and then the best 8 relievers or so. Again, don't worry about trying to select which of the weak guys should be your last relievers or starters. Instead, you should be looking for decent improvements to get in trades first.

Then for prospects, you can just check on the highest potential ones. I don't think there's much need to really get to know even the middle rated ones at 40/80 or below. They won't really be worth too much even if they reach that potential, and if you need a player of that level, it's really not too hard to acquire someone near that level. Maybe an exception is for starting pitchers, so you can check even a bit lower on the potentials for those. (This is assuming your do not have the ratings adjusted to the ML, and instead use raw ratings, and also that you don't have ratings adjusted to each position seperately)

ForeverRoyalKC · 04-20-2018, 12:46 PM

Thanks, gang....this is all good stuff! I appreciate it.

Shoeless' Socks · 04-20-2018, 02:07 PM

https://www.minorleagueball.com/2017...y-organization

Use this as minors reference to crosscheck with how OOTP rates your minors.

curt · 04-20-2018, 06:17 PM

Play each game pitch by pitch and slug it out for a couple years. I have a fictional team in a fictional ML league. Year 5 now. I've been in playoffs 3 times, one world series. I know who will strike out in clutch situations, who may homer etc. You get to know the team by watching the team. IMO

04-15-2018, 10:15 PM	#1
ForeverRoyalKC All Star Starter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Hop, skip and a jump from Pomme De Terre Lake, MO. Posts: 1,181 Blog Entries: 3	Best way to learn a new team Seeking your opinions on the best way to learn a new team. As an example, I am a Royals fan and know the team, their minors and minors players, etc. I know nothing much of, let's say the Phillies. So if I want to do something new and take the Phillies thru a season, what's the best steps to learn the team to educate myself thoroughly?? 1st step, 2nd step. etc.

04-15-2018, 11:49 PM	#2
Curve Ball Dave Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,332	There's no easy way to do it. You have to put in time to study each player and get to "know" him. You will not learn your team in one season. This happens whenever I set up a new league and do a draft. It takes a couple of seasons at least to really know your players, especially the minor leaguers. Throw in the changes due to player development (for better or worse) over time and getting to know your organization is that much more difficult. __________________ "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.

04-16-2018, 10:44 AM	#7
NoOne Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,228	It's probably and advantage to run a team you are not familiar with... less bias based on a "name" which may or may not match public perception in that region. focus on tangible things with a causal realtionship instead of a "name". liekly to make better and more rational decisions. let ratings and stats dictate.. shelve everythign else... much easier with a team you have no emotional attachment to -- for most people. i'm a alien in this regard i don't even suport friends or family when they are nefarious or are on the wrong side of history etc.. most people protect their own even in the face of incontrivertable evidence.. and that is just whacky to me. they can still be 'family' but they have to be punished for bad behaviour too. Last edited by NoOne; 04-16-2018 at 10:46 AM.

04-16-2018, 12:35 PM	#8
BBGiovanni All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Republic of California Posts: 1,854	My favorite way to do this is to manage up through the minors. Assuming you don't mind starting your ml career after a couple of years, start as the A+ team's manager. You could even do it by half-years, moving up at midseason. You'll enjoy catching up to the best prospects, and get sick of the AI sticking you with the same roster-filler over amd over. But you'll definitely know your players. Make sure you "cannot be fired" though __________________ Let's Go (San Jose) Giants, Let's Go Mets! Current Project: WBAT/AABBA: Organized Base Ball And the "New Normal" World Baseball Aid Tournament 2023 trophy round underway!

04-16-2018, 08:14 AM	#4
Llamaboy Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 38 Blog Entries: 1	I agree with posts above that it takes time. When I start a new game with a new team, I tend to try to focus on one piece at a time, otherwise it becomes daunting. So I'll start by looking at my major league pitching staff for example, then go to the players page and the minors tab and look at the best pitchers in my miniors. I tend to try to focus on learning the MLB-ready talent first, and then begin to learn my minors. I don't know if it's the best way, but it's the way I do it!

04-16-2018, 05:34 PM	#9
wallewalls All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 774 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Taking over a real life team? I always research their farm systems, and read their teams news for a few days to see what things are like and how things are going

04-17-2018, 02:16 PM	#10
stealofhome Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,282 Blog Entries: 1	I set up a spreadsheet for an organizational depth chart. Look at high potential players to fill each spot and strength at the major leagues. That helps to find areas of strength and weakness to fill through trade /draft.

04-20-2018, 12:38 PM	#11
Timofmars Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 251	I just open up a notepad file, then sort the whole team by current overall ability. Set it to look at all batters first. Then write in the notepad where the top player should probably go (and make a note of other positions he may be decently capable at), and note if their salary is too high for their ability so you should look to offload them if you can. Once you figured out a starting lineup of positions (don't worry about batting order), and a few more fringe players that can be backups, you're done with that. You also only really need to worry about top players. If the best you have for some parts of you starting lineup are some 20/80 guys, then don't fret too much because you should be able to get at least some minor upgrades there through trades. For pitchers, again sort the top guys, check for capability of being a starter, and find your best 5 starters and then the best 8 relievers or so. Again, don't worry about trying to select which of the weak guys should be your last relievers or starters. Instead, you should be looking for decent improvements to get in trades first. Then for prospects, you can just check on the highest potential ones. I don't think there's much need to really get to know even the middle rated ones at 40/80 or below. They won't really be worth too much even if they reach that potential, and if you need a player of that level, it's really not too hard to acquire someone near that level. Maybe an exception is for starting pitchers, so you can check even a bit lower on the potentials for those. (This is assuming your do not have the ratings adjusted to the ML, and instead use raw ratings, and also that you don't have ratings adjusted to each position seperately)

04-20-2018, 12:46 PM	#12
ForeverRoyalKC All Star Starter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Hop, skip and a jump from Pomme De Terre Lake, MO. Posts: 1,181 Blog Entries: 3	Thanks, gang....this is all good stuff! I appreciate it.

04-20-2018, 02:07 PM	#13
Shoeless' Socks Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 162	https://www.minorleagueball.com/2017...y-organization Use this as minors reference to crosscheck with how OOTP rates your minors.

04-20-2018, 06:17 PM	#14
curt Major Leagues Join Date: May 2013 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 465	Play each game pitch by pitch and slug it out for a couple years. I have a fictional team in a fictional ML league. Year 5 now. I've been in playoffs 3 times, one world series. I know who will strike out in clutch situations, who may homer etc. You get to know the team by watching the team. IMO