BA higher than OBP??

Jermanfu · 04-17-2019, 10:12 PM

While playing out a game earlier, I noticed this: PLayer's Avg is .500 on the season so far, but his On Base Percentage is .487? Obviously this is not possible. Is this a known bug? Or is it just calculating the stats incorrectly maybe? Anyone else seen this?

mrbucket · 04-17-2019, 10:34 PM

Sac flies is the answer here.

They are not considered an at-bat so don't affect your batting average but on-base percentage does factor it in so it reduces your OBP. If you've never walked or never been hit by a pitch but you have sac flies then your batting average will be higher than your on-base percentage.

Jermanfu · 04-17-2019, 10:37 PM

Oh good call! I didn't think about sac flies or bunts. That's probably what it is. Especially this early in the season with such a small sample size. Thanks!

NoOne · 04-20-2019, 10:49 AM

when you 'stretch' a hit and get thrown out at second or third, you still get a 'hit' too. *single or double depending on where you get thrown out.

sac flies don't count as an AB or a hit. so, it wouldn't be responsible for a BA>OBP situation.

BA
http://m.mlb.com/glossary/standard-s...atting-average

sac flies
http://m.mlb.com/glossary/standard-stats/sacrifice-fly

obp:
http://m.mlb.com/glossary/standard-s...ase-percentage

Matt Arnold · 04-20-2019, 11:05 AM

Sac flies do count in obp but not in ba.

drewandpedey · 04-21-2019, 01:28 PM

It's when you get thrown out trying to stretch a hit an extra base. If the guy gets thrown out, he gets a hit (positive for his BA) but it doesn't count towards his OBP.

04-21-2019, 09:28 PM

OBP = (Hits + Walks + Hit by Pitch) / (At Bats + Walks + Hit by Pitch + Sacrifice Flies).

04-17-2019, 10:12 PM	#1
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04-17-2019, 10:34 PM	#2
mrbucket All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: New Zealand Posts: 860	Sac flies is the answer here. They are not considered an at-bat so don't affect your batting average but on-base percentage does factor it in so it reduces your OBP. If you've never walked or never been hit by a pitch but you have sac flies then your batting average will be higher than your on-base percentage. __________________ My Dynasty Report: A Minor Dose of Chaos: A Random Debut League

04-17-2019, 10:37 PM	#3
Jermanfu All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 899	Oh good call! I didn't think about sac flies or bunts. That's probably what it is. Especially this early in the season with such a small sample size. Thanks! __________________ "I took the two most expensive asprins in history." - Wally Pipp on his decision to sit out a game with a headache which let Lou Gehrig into the lineup for the first time. http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a121/Jermanfu/

04-20-2019, 10:49 AM	#4
NoOne Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,228	when you 'stretch' a hit and get thrown out at second or third, you still get a 'hit' too. *single or double depending on where you get thrown out. sac flies don't count as an AB or a hit. so, it wouldn't be responsible for a BA>OBP situation. BA http://m.mlb.com/glossary/standard-s...atting-average sac flies http://m.mlb.com/glossary/standard-stats/sacrifice-fly obp: http://m.mlb.com/glossary/standard-s...ase-percentage

04-20-2019, 11:05 AM	#5
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,539	Sac flies do count in obp but not in ba.

04-21-2019, 01:28 PM	#6
drewandpedey Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2018 Location: Boston Posts: 159 Blog Entries: 1	It's when you get thrown out trying to stretch a hit an extra base. If the guy gets thrown out, he gets a hit (positive for his BA) but it doesn't count towards his OBP.

04-21-2019, 09:28 PM	#7
Chris Ferrario Guest Posts: n/a	OBP = (Hits + Walks + Hit by Pitch) / (At Bats + Walks + Hit by Pitch + Sacrifice Flies).