Inside the Park Home Runs

polydamas · 06-30-2020, 08:38 PM

Could we assume that the less home runs hit in a league means more of those home runs are inside the parkers and also the inverse (that more home runs means more out of the park home runs)?

As it stands, when I make a league in 1900 that will produce 6776 home runs (modern equivalent), then the game engine makes way too many of them inside the park (as it is a % tied to year). It kills the immersion for me.

Another thought: It would be nice to have button to swap home and away jerseys/ballcaps

fredbeene · 07-23-2020, 08:41 AM

Can you please tell me where you get the stats on:
Inside the Park HRs vs Over the fence?
Grandslams?
Triple plays?

OutS|der · 07-24-2020, 04:13 PM

I would assume a home run is a home run inside or outside of the park. How the game determines the % are inside vs outside I would assume it's tied to baserunning XB%

Questdog · 07-24-2020, 09:59 PM

I believe it is tied to era. If you want more home runs in your league than they had in real life, you will just have to accept more inside the parkers....

Or create the league in 2000 and set it up to have the stats you want and call that 1900....

Mat · 07-25-2020, 03:15 AM

I think it has been changed in this years version. Now tied to historical year.

One Great Matrix · 07-25-2020, 05:01 AM

Maybe make the fences as deep and high as possible all the way around so they are realistic...you may even be able to make them look realistic with the BP editor.

polydamas · 07-25-2020, 07:52 PM

To clarify, I want a league in 1900 with modern stats. I'm seeing too many inside the park home runs, because they scale with home runs.

RonCo · 07-25-2020, 08:07 PM

They scale with both HR and park dimensions as far as I can tell. Big parks seem to turn more HR into ITP homers.

fredbeene · 07-25-2020, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polydamas

To clarify, I want a league in 1900 with modern stats. I'm seeing too many inside the park home runs, because they scale with home runs.

how are you seeing the inside the park homeruns??
are you reading all the game logs and compiling them?

I would love to know where i can find the info??
In PL Joe Tinker a weak power hitter is averaging over 10 HRs.....
I would like to know if that is because i adjusted his baserunning to AGGRESSIVE so his triples are not becoming HRs.

I will never know how that or other strategies work.
I can't possible review every game log

polydamas · 07-26-2020, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fredbeene

how are you seeing the inside the park homeruns??
are you reading all the game logs and compiling them?

I would love to know where i can find the info??
In PL Joe Tinker a weak power hitter is averaging over 10 HRs.....
I would like to know if that is because i adjusted his baserunning to AGGRESSIVE so his triples are not becoming HRs.

I will never know how that or other strategies work.
I can't possible review every game log

I guess it is anecdotal. I am seeing them a lot in game. Like 1 out of every 3 or 4 home runs is inside the park, which is jarring and unrealistic

Questdog · 07-26-2020, 06:54 AM

It is NOT unrealistic in 1900. In 1901, there were 50 inside the park home runs hit in Cincinnati. Since the Reds and their opponents only hit 85 HR all year, both at home and on the road, the great majority of their home runs were inside the park. Sam Crawford led the league with 16 HR and 12 of them were inside the park home runs hit in Cincinnati. I have no idea about the other 4. They may have been inside the park home runs on the road or they may have been over the fence, but at least 75% of his home runs were inside the park.

Rain King · 07-26-2020, 09:48 AM

Right, but the problem is that they are using the Year 1901, but wanting to have modern statistics.

It feels like the inside the park home runs should be tied to the era the League Strategy settings are using and not the actual year...or it is something that should be available on the League Totals screen.

I'm running a similar setup (modern stats, but starting in the 1870's), it is definitely strange to watch the game and see so many ISTP HR's in that scenerio.

Questdog · 07-26-2020, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain King

Right, but the problem is that they are using the Year 1901, but wanting to have modern statistics.

It feels like the inside the park home runs should be tied to the era the League Strategy settings are using and not the actual year...or it is something that should be available on the League Totals screen.

I'm running a similar setup (modern stats, but starting in the 1870's), it is definitely strange to watch the game and see so many ISTP HR's in that scenerio.

I believe (not certain, though) that if you import settings from a different year you will have inside the park home runs consistent with the 'Historical Year.' I do not think just setting the historical year to something different will work; I think you have to import settings from a certain year. After that, you can adjust to your liking.

Rain King · 07-26-2020, 12:39 PM

That is not the case if you set the "Historical Year" to a modern year and then use the Auto-Calc. It will pull in all of the modern Strategy, AI and Stats modifiers but you still get a bunch of inside the park home runs when playing out games. They would probably need to add a modifier in the same place where they have things like Balks and Outfield Assists.

Questdog · 07-26-2020, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain King

That is not the case if you set the "Historical Year" to a modern year and then use the Auto-Calc. It will pull in all of the modern Strategy, AI and Stats modifiers but you still get a bunch of inside the park home runs when playing out games. They would probably need to add a modifier in the same place where they have things like Balks and Outfield Assists.

I think you have to 'import' settings, not just recalc. But, it has been awhile since I have done this...

fredbeene · 07-27-2020, 09:26 PM

The real bummer is there is no way to actual track what is happening or how strategies effect the game ...... keeping fingers crossed for enhancements!

Mat · 07-28-2020, 05:09 AM

I am playing fictional with modern stats. I just looked through a months worth of game logs and no inside the park home runs.

This is playing fictional with modern stats, starting 1901 (I tested in 1905). Historical year set to 2020.

polydamas · 07-28-2020, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mat

I am playing fictional with modern stats. I just looked through a months worth of game logs and no inside the park home runs.

This is playing fictional with modern stats, starting 1901 (I tested in 1905). Historical year set to 2020.

I'm going to make a new game to verify your results. I wonder if I left the historical year to 1900 for the financial settings.

fredbeene · 07-29-2020, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mat

I am playing fictional with modern stats. I just looked through a months worth of game logs and no inside the park home runs.

This is playing fictional with modern stats, starting 1901 (I tested in 1905). Historical year set to 2020.

Wish i had time in life to do that! : )

thanks for doing what should logged and retrievable!

Mat · 07-30-2020, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fredbeene

Wish i had time in life to do that! : )

thanks for doing what should logged and retrievable!

I should clarify, I only counted one teams worth of games!

06-30-2020, 08:38 PM	#1
polydamas All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 599	Inside the Park Home Runs Could we assume that the less home runs hit in a league means more of those home runs are inside the parkers and also the inverse (that more home runs means more out of the park home runs)? As it stands, when I make a league in 1900 that will produce 6776 home runs (modern equivalent), then the game engine makes way too many of them inside the park (as it is a % tied to year). It kills the immersion for me. Another thought: It would be nice to have button to swap home and away jerseys/ballcaps Last edited by polydamas; 06-30-2020 at 08:58 PM.

07-25-2020, 05:01 AM	#6
One Great Matrix All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 1,782	Maybe make the fences as deep and high as possible all the way around so they are realistic...you may even be able to make them look realistic with the BP editor. __________________

07-26-2020, 09:48 AM	#12
Rain King Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,090 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Right, but the problem is that they are using the Year 1901, but wanting to have modern statistics. It feels like the inside the park home runs should be tied to the era the League Strategy settings are using and not the actual year...or it is something that should be available on the League Totals screen. I'm running a similar setup (modern stats, but starting in the 1870's), it is definitely strange to watch the game and see so many ISTP HR's in that scenerio. Last edited by Rain King; 07-26-2020 at 09:49 AM.

07-23-2020, 08:41 AM	#2
fredbeene All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,614 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Can you please tell me where you get the stats on: Inside the Park HRs vs Over the fence? Grandslams? Triple plays?

07-24-2020, 04:13 PM	#3
OutS\|der Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: In A Van Down By The River Posts: 2,695 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	I would assume a home run is a home run inside or outside of the park. How the game determines the % are inside vs outside I would assume it's tied to baserunning XB%

07-24-2020, 09:59 PM	#4
Questdog Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a dark, damp cave where I'm training slugs to run the bases...... Posts: 16,142	I believe it is tied to era. If you want more home runs in your league than they had in real life, you will just have to accept more inside the parkers.... Or create the league in 2000 and set it up to have the stats you want and call that 1900....

07-25-2020, 03:15 AM	#5
Mat All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 652	I think it has been changed in this years version. Now tied to historical year.

07-25-2020, 07:52 PM	#7
polydamas All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 599	To clarify, I want a league in 1900 with modern stats. I'm seeing too many inside the park home runs, because they scale with home runs.

07-25-2020, 08:07 PM	#8
RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 10,351	They scale with both HR and park dimensions as far as I can tell. Big parks seem to turn more HR into ITP homers.

07-26-2020, 06:54 AM	#11
Questdog Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a dark, damp cave where I'm training slugs to run the bases...... Posts: 16,142	It is NOT unrealistic in 1900. In 1901, there were 50 inside the park home runs hit in Cincinnati. Since the Reds and their opponents only hit 85 HR all year, both at home and on the road, the great majority of their home runs were inside the park. Sam Crawford led the league with 16 HR and 12 of them were inside the park home runs hit in Cincinnati. I have no idea about the other 4. They may have been inside the park home runs on the road or they may have been over the fence, but at least 75% of his home runs were inside the park.

07-26-2020, 12:39 PM	#14
Rain King Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,090 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	That is not the case if you set the "Historical Year" to a modern year and then use the Auto-Calc. It will pull in all of the modern Strategy, AI and Stats modifiers but you still get a bunch of inside the park home runs when playing out games. They would probably need to add a modifier in the same place where they have things like Balks and Outfield Assists.

07-27-2020, 09:26 PM	#16
fredbeene All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 1,614 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	The real bummer is there is no way to actual track what is happening or how strategies effect the game ...... keeping fingers crossed for enhancements!

07-28-2020, 05:09 AM	#17
Mat All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 652	I am playing fictional with modern stats. I just looked through a months worth of game logs and no inside the park home runs. This is playing fictional with modern stats, starting 1901 (I tested in 1905). Historical year set to 2020.