Help with promotion relegation league setup

La La La Linoleum · 08-14-2020, 03:22 PM

I am trying to set up a promotion relegation league with 4 levels of 15 teams each. I want each to have slightly different financial and rules settings but would like them to all share a draft and minor/feeder leagues.

I have tried this in the past but have run into these issues:

Huge financial disparities between leagues
Cannot figure out how to have multiple leagues share feeder/minor leagues (a team will get promoted and its minor league affiliates don't which is weird)
There are 4 different drafts for the 4 leagues spreading talent in a weird way
If I try to make the top level a parent league then the minor league affiliates of the child leagues dissapear but also still exist?
Now when trying again I cant even figure out how to make leagues affiliated at all anymore

If any of this is possible or you have advice for me please let me know, Thank you,
Brendan

BBGiovanni · 08-14-2020, 08:49 PM

1. I plan my leagues before I start, create the Premier/highest league first, then use the automatic financial tool to adjust down. So, the B league will be 10% lower, the C league will be 25% lower, etc. Also be sure to set league reputations accordingly.

2. Leagues can't share feeders or minors. If you want minor affiliates for a league, you'll have to adjust the minor teams around upon promotion/relegation.

3. If you make an association for all your leagues, you'll have one big draft that is a mess and people always complain about. I don't know what "weird ways" you're talking about; I stagger the drafts so they happen in series (i.e. the Premier League on March 1, the B League on March 2, etc.).

4. I don't understand what you're talking about, each minor/feeder can only be affiliated to one league.

5. I create all my major leagues (i.e. the P/R chained leagues) first, then go back and add minors. If you're talking about using the real MLB/MiLB teams from the default setup, that won't ever work. Minor leagues don't work as major leagues.

ZenMaster61 · 08-20-2020, 03:06 PM

So I'm actually working on something similar at the moment and found a workaround for getting all teams to share minor league systems. Here's how I did it:

1. Create all of the major leagues you want, but do not make minor league teams.
2. Move all major league teams to the top league.
3. Create a minor league associated with the top major league. This will make a minor league team for every major league team.
4. Move every major league team to the second highest major league, then make a minor league associated with this major league.
5. Continue moving every major league team down a tier, while creating minor leagues at each one, until you have a minor league associated with every major league. (When you look at the leagues and teams of each minor league system it will only show the affiliations of teams that are currently in the parent major league, but if you created the minor leagues as I said above they will be affiliated. Frustrating, I know)
6. After you have a minor league associated with every major league you can then go back and add any additional minor leagues anywhere you want. But be sure to have every major league team in the league when you create the minor league.
7. Move the major league teams back to the leagues they were originally in

You might be wondering why you can't just make every minor league associated to the top major league, but if you do that then the lower tier major leagues won't be allowed a secondary roster due to the game thinking they don't have minor league teams (even though they do).

And out of curiosity, what do you mean at the end of point three when you say that the talent is spread in a weird way?

jg2977 · 08-20-2020, 03:23 PM

I've never done a promotion/relegation league. I assume that it's easy to set up a simple one without minors?

Boomcoach · 08-20-2020, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jg2977

I've never done a promotion/relegation league. I assume that it's easy to set up a simple one without minors?

I have set them up a few times, never used minors, and it worked pretty well. What I have done, quite a bit of the time, is take the Quickstart Pro-Rel setup and modify it, saving the trouble of creating the leagues.

I also like to let the league run for 5 years before I take over a team.

08-14-2020, 03:22 PM	#1
La La La Linoleum Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Maryland Posts: 103 Blog Entries: 2	Help with promotion relegation league setup I am trying to set up a promotion relegation league with 4 levels of 15 teams each. I want each to have slightly different financial and rules settings but would like them to all share a draft and minor/feeder leagues. I have tried this in the past but have run into these issues: Huge financial disparities between leagues Cannot figure out how to have multiple leagues share feeder/minor leagues (a team will get promoted and its minor league affiliates don't which is weird) There are 4 different drafts for the 4 leagues spreading talent in a weird way If I try to make the top level a parent league then the minor league affiliates of the child leagues dissapear but also still exist? Now when trying again I cant even figure out how to make leagues affiliated at all anymore If any of this is possible or you have advice for me please let me know, Thank you, Brendan

08-14-2020, 08:49 PM	#2
BBGiovanni All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Republic of California Posts: 1,850	1. I plan my leagues before I start, create the Premier/highest league first, then use the automatic financial tool to adjust down. So, the B league will be 10% lower, the C league will be 25% lower, etc. Also be sure to set league reputations accordingly. 2. Leagues can't share feeders or minors. If you want minor affiliates for a league, you'll have to adjust the minor teams around upon promotion/relegation. 3. If you make an association for all your leagues, you'll have one big draft that is a mess and people always complain about. I don't know what "weird ways" you're talking about; I stagger the drafts so they happen in series (i.e. the Premier League on March 1, the B League on March 2, etc.). 4. I don't understand what you're talking about, each minor/feeder can only be affiliated to one league. 5. I create all my major leagues (i.e. the P/R chained leagues) first, then go back and add minors. If you're talking about using the real MLB/MiLB teams from the default setup, that won't ever work. Minor leagues don't work as major leagues. __________________ Let's Go (San Jose) Giants, Let's Go Mets! Current Project: WBAT/AABBA: Organized Base Ball And the "New Normal" World Baseball Aid Tournament 2023 trophy round underway!

08-20-2020, 03:06 PM	#3
ZenMaster61 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 13	So I'm actually working on something similar at the moment and found a workaround for getting all teams to share minor league systems. Here's how I did it: 1. Create all of the major leagues you want, but do not make minor league teams. 2. Move all major league teams to the top league. 3. Create a minor league associated with the top major league. This will make a minor league team for every major league team. 4. Move every major league team to the second highest major league, then make a minor league associated with this major league. 5. Continue moving every major league team down a tier, while creating minor leagues at each one, until you have a minor league associated with every major league. (When you look at the leagues and teams of each minor league system it will only show the affiliations of teams that are currently in the parent major league, but if you created the minor leagues as I said above they will be affiliated. Frustrating, I know) 6. After you have a minor league associated with every major league you can then go back and add any additional minor leagues anywhere you want. But be sure to have every major league team in the league when you create the minor league. 7. Move the major league teams back to the leagues they were originally in You might be wondering why you can't just make every minor league associated to the top major league, but if you do that then the lower tier major leagues won't be allowed a secondary roster due to the game thinking they don't have minor league teams (even though they do). And out of curiosity, what do you mean at the end of point three when you say that the talent is spread in a weird way?

08-20-2020, 03:23 PM	#4
jg2977 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 23,014	I've never done a promotion/relegation league. I assume that it's easy to set up a simple one without minors?