Official OOTP 22 initial impressions thread!

[slugga27]

Originally Posted by TheBrewCrew

I had to remember my log in information for this dumbass comment.

It’s honestly insane you are defending a Betances for Altuve deal straight up on hard difficulty.

Let's not start the name calling. Just because you don't agree, doesn't mean that others don't have a point. There are many factors that go into a trade, and Lukas was giving you some of the factors.

The point remains that the AI does not have the same feelings and emotions as humans. That level of technology has not been invented. If you would like, why don't you try to invent it for us?

[Goalie39]

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

We're not sure yet if or when they would be added. It may come in a patch sometime in the summer, it may take more effort and not come until OOTP23 or later.

Understandable. I'm sure building an entire new type of league into the current game will take some effort.



Thanks for the update

[timmermac]

So far, my only gripe is that in-game options are not persistent between game sessions. If I set widgets, player size, ball size, I don't want to have to keep setting them every time I decide to play a game out.

[tward13]

Originally Posted by TheBrewCrew

I had to remember my log in information for this dumbass comment.

It’s honestly insane you are defending a Betances for Altuve deal straight up on hard difficulty.

Like

[tward13]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

I thought he did a nice job of explaining it.

Maybe, in real life this would never happen because human gm's have bias and probably in this case loyalty would be the bias.

The computer AI would probably look at it like this.

Altuve is making millions, lets just call it 100 million. If the computer values him at 80 million that is a 20 million dollar loss.

If Betances is making 2 million and the computer values him at 1 million. That is a 1 million dollar loss.

So the computer AI sees this as a 19 million dollar win.

I never seen him to to defend this as a trade that would or would not happen in real life. He was just trying to explain how the computer AI works.

Then the AI needs tweaking, which was my point in starting this discussion. Matt Arnold latter joined in to say it's something worth looking at on their side.

Since these type contracts ARE a part of ML baseball they should be in game also.

[tejdog1]

Originally Posted by tward13

Then the AI needs tweaking, which was my point in starting this discussion. Matt Arnold latter joined in to say it's something worth looking at on their side.

Since these type contracts ARE a part of ML baseball they should be in game also.

Altuve is on the wrong side of the aging curve, and due 4 years at 26 per, $104 mil.

Betances is a totally washed garbage reliever due 7 mil over 2 years.

If you solely look at the cost benefit analysis of this... and value a win at 7.5 mil, is Altuve going to give you 13.86 WAR over the next 4 years? Can you better allocate that money elsewhere? That's 97 million you free up to spend elsewhere.

Like imagine if the former Mets GM wasn't legally brain damaged, Seattle would've dumped Cano for Bruce/Swarzak and some middling prospects and attached Diaz just to get out from under that contract. Same general principle here, except... yanno, you don't get the benefit of trading with a brain damaged used car salesman.

[Thundercrack]

Originally Posted by Shoeless' Socks

4. Still tons of things remain the same while they keep pouring time into the graphics for a text/spreadsheet game. I secretly resent that many customers undoubtedly have wanted this but I couldn't care less if they had even added 3D mode, ever.

yes yes yes. I'm glad that 3D and the stadiums make people happy, but I'll never use it and the league history and player history pages have barely been touched for years. At the very least, make a career leaderboards page that looks like the current stats page, with facegen etc. Do it Markus! Make it happen!

[Anyone]

Originally Posted by TheBrewCrew

Just because you don’t like Bauer (I despise him), doesn’t mean it’s a realistic trade. He was signed to big money this offseason. The team he signed with clearly thinks he’s worth it.

This wasn’t a scenario where it’s 3 years down the road and Bauer sucks. The FO is super excited to have him and clearly like his contract.

Absolutely 0 chance that trade would ever, ever happen. Again, maybe if it was 2023 on, not in 2021.

The mental gymnastics needed to defend the trade AI is fun to watch.

I think it's easy to understand the AI. The AI aren't the people who run the Dodgers in real life. The AI wouldn't have offered the contract Bauer got.

It's also understandable though that most would like the AI to behave like a team that just signed Bauer to that deal, however; and I think I know how I'd fix it, which is simply to increase the value the AI gives a player in his first season after he was signed as a free agent.

Simply, if it's Year 1 of a multi-year contract and the player's previous year was with another team, the AI should be instructed to value the player very highly whether its analysis actually justifies it or not. The team just signed the player as a free agent, so is very happy to have him, whether that's justified by his age/ability/contract or not.

[david limbaugh]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

OK folks, fire away. But please, no bug reports, these go where they belong: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...lay.php?f=4003

Play ball!!
Markus & the entire OOTP Team

Long time user, long time caller...

After an install, when I try to create a second game and all other after that get a lot of errors of "folders" not existing..... If I uninstall, first time I create a game everything seems fine. If I leave the game and go back into it and try to create another game same errors occur....

[david limbaugh]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

OK folks, fire away. But please, no bug reports, these go where they belong: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...lay.php?f=4003

Play ball!!
Markus & the entire OOTP Team

Long time user, long time caller...

Thank You!

[dward1]

are there any upgrades besides visual upgrades? I don't care that much about 3D or stadiums

[pstrickert]

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...43&postcount=2

[WallyGunner]

Hi
23 march came and went. Now it's supposed to be to day march 26, where
is it no email nothing. what the $%%@

[rudel.dietrich]

Originally Posted by dward1

are there any upgrades besides visual upgrades? I don't care that much about 3D or stadiums

Diplomatic answer: Yes, there are some

Realistic answer: No, not really. The two biggest selling points are greatly improved visuals to the stadiums and an expanding coaching system.
Every other addition is very minor around the edges sort of stuff. But that is of course my opinion.
When it goes up on Steam I will purchase it and see for myself.

[venflaalachi]

Originally Posted by WallyGunner

Hi
23 march came and went. Now it's supposed to be to day march 26, where
is it no email nothing. what the $%%@

Calm down, the download link will likely be available later today. The beta is already available if you preordered, the download link is on these forums.

[WallyGunner]

Hi
Where you guys downloding the baseball game at. You seem to be enjoying the game. I pre-ordered it awhike back. What's up?
Wally

[venflaalachi]

Originally Posted by WallyGunner

Hi
Where you guys downloding the baseball game at. You seem to be enjoying the game. I pre-ordered it awhike back. What's up?
Wally

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=325627

[jdolecek49]

After setting the game up here iam few days later after getting all the stadiums loaded.I used to only play as GM but now i also manage every game because royals stadiums looks o real its unbelievable...you guys have made a huge step forward....i love this game, the first thing i do in the morning is check the forums...i love this game so much. in 21 the graphics were not that good so i never managed a game but now....its a totally different story....I just cannot say enough how great this game is...thank you so much

[robedits]

I've posted this in bugs forum, but I was wondering if anyone else is having these issues with the Steam version of OOTP 22:
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(Steam OOTP 22): Detailed audience animations not working for me...
In game settings: I've set AUDIENCE DETAIL to DETAILED, I've set AUDIENCE QUALITY to EXTRA HIGH, and I've set AUDIENCE ANIMATION to EXTRA HIGH. I've reset the game, re-started the game with new settings, and no matter where I play or what teams, or whether I start a new game or not: no audience animation at all from any angle, and audience details SEEM "low" to me. I've got all OOTP grfx settings set to max details (where applicable), and running fullscreen on a standard 1920x1080 monitor; Win 10. All updated, latest drivers.
Running the game on a new desktop PC (w/ the Steam version of OOTP22).
My Specs:
--Running Windows 10 Home 64bit (WIN 10 fully updated) on a Dell Inspiron 5090 desktop PC.
Intel Core i7-9700 CUP@ 3.00 GHz [8-Core/8-Thread 12M Cache, 4.7GHz Processor w/ Intel Turbo Boost Technology]. 16 GB memory.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 and NVIDIA High Def audio. All completely updated w/ latest drivers and Win 10 updates. Running game at 1920X1080 on standard monitor.
--------so, why no audience animations or high details? FWIW, the ballparks and players themselves look MUCH improved,though.

[Matt Arnold]

Originally Posted by robedits

I've posted this in bugs forum, but I was wondering if anyone else is having these issues with the Steam version of OOTP 22:
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(Steam OOTP 22): Detailed audience animations not working for me...
In game settings: I've set AUDIENCE DETAIL to DETAILED, I've set AUDIENCE QUALITY to EXTRA HIGH, and I've set AUDIENCE ANIMATION to EXTRA HIGH. I've reset the game, re-started the game with new settings, and no matter where I play or what teams, or whether I start a new game or not: no audience animation at all from any angle, and audience details SEEM "low" to me. I've got all OOTP grfx settings set to max details (where applicable), and running fullscreen on a standard 1920x1080 monitor; Win 10. All updated, latest drivers.
Running the game on a new desktop PC (w/ the Steam version of OOTP22).
My Specs:
--Running Windows 10 Home 64bit (WIN 10 fully updated) on a Dell Inspiron 5090 desktop PC.
Intel Core i7-9700 CUP@ 3.00 GHz [8-Core/8-Thread 12M Cache, 4.7GHz Processor w/ Intel Turbo Boost Technology]. 16 GB memory.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 and NVIDIA High Def audio. All completely updated w/ latest drivers and Win 10 updates. Running game at 1920X1080 on standard monitor.
--------so, why no audience animations or high details? FWIW, the ballparks and players themselves look MUCH improved,though.

We've mentioned in some various places, but the new stadiums unfortunately do not currently support the more detailed audience. We are looking for other ways around that to be able to bring them back or upgrade the audiences, but that will come later in patches.