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Westheim · 03-19-2021, 12:03 PM

Carrasco out 6+ weeks with torn hamstring

Sweet.

Sweet like rancid butter.

Déjà Bru · 03-19-2021, 01:16 PM

Bright side: It's a leg, not an arm, injury. Above all, it's not TJ surgery.

Westheim · 03-19-2021, 02:29 PM

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Bright side: It's a leg, not an arm, injury. Above all, it's not TJ surgery.

He was already shut down for elbow woes, if I remember correctly.

And Jeff McNeil was 0-1 with 3 HBP in today's game. What the ****, Cardinals!!

Westheim · 03-23-2021, 03:01 PM

McNeil pummeled again in this game, but I just want to drop in and request Conforto gets a shave. He looks weird with the beard.

And the Metsies beat the Fish, 5-3!

Westheim · 03-24-2021, 02:54 PM

Metsies in mid-season form, score no runs in bleak 3-0 loss to Redbirds!

Déjà Bru · 03-25-2021, 11:36 AM

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And the Metsies beat the Fish, 5-3!

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Metsies in mid-season form, score no runs in bleak 3-0 loss to Redbirds!

Not even out of spring training yet, and already stoked (evidence:

and

). A Mets fan through and through, despite avowals and protestations to the contrary.

Déjà Bru · 03-28-2021, 12:29 PM

Westheim, your wishing Jay Bruce on the Yankees has come true!

(See the Yankees thread.)

Westheim · 03-30-2021, 01:48 AM

Mets, Lindor reportedly far apart in contract talks

12 years, $385M? Well, then bugger off. Paying a shortstop dozens of dollars until he's inches from 40 years old apparently sounds too stupid even for the Metsies (who are said to have offered 10 years, $325M).

Oops, technically Old Fart Cano is still no the payroll somewhere...

Déjà Bru · 03-30-2021, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Westheim

Mets, Lindor reportedly far apart in contract talks

12 years, $385M? Well, then bugger off. Paying a shortstop dozens of dollars until he's inches from 40 years old apparently sounds too stupid even for the Metsies (who are said to have offered 10 years, $325M).

Oops, technically Old Fart Cano is still no the payroll somewhere...

Our erstwhile (and appropriately banned) friend pointed out that such contracts need to be looked at from an "up front" perspective in that the money in the later years is really paying for performance in the early years.

Thus, we should not feel bad about paying somebody $32 million for spending his 39th year on the planet in the Mets' training room. Rather, it was part of the value of paying him the equivalent of $40 million a year or so for his 8 to 10 productive years.

Come to think of it, bull. The argument was anti-capitalist in that we should not care about how the Mets spend their money; the players deserve it more. Bull, again. All of this money is coming from you and me in one form or another.

Contracts should be shorter and should reflect what the player is projected to be worth during that time. If Lindor is worth $40 million annually for 5 years, then pay him that now. Negotiate again in five years.

Perhaps if it was done in this manner, I would be paying slightly less toward my now north-of-$200 per month cable and internet bill. But all of this will continue on in this free market, capitalist society until, in a few years, I will be paying north-of-$300 per month.

And you and other Mets fans will be complaining down the road about how much cap money is being taken up by an aged and decrepit Francisco Lindor.

kumar0raja · 03-30-2021, 04:54 PM

I also listen to music no one's ever heard of in hopes of looking cool and alternative. teatv apk hellodear.in

pgjocki · 03-30-2021, 11:42 PM

I'm in favor of capping contracts at 5 years but also letting guys hit free agency a year early.

I don't care about the owners except that when they make bad decisions it eventually hurts the fans.

The only flip side is that the owners have the money to pay a SS $385 million and just choose not to in most cases. If the players don't get the money the owner just keeps it and buys their wife another yacht or small village somewhere.

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Westheim · 03-31-2021, 03:05 AM

Uncle Steve says: "I hope he decides to sign."

Well, if that doesn't instill confidence...

Now excuse me, the Raccoons have to sign Alberto Ramos to a 7-year, $39M extension (which would be the highest annual salary in the league for a 35-year-old spherical former shortstop with no defensive position to put him).

Déjà Bru · 03-31-2021, 10:49 AM

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I also listen to music no one's ever heard of in hopes of looking cool and alternative.

Meanwhile, this. He does sound like a Mets fan, though.

Déjà Bru · 03-31-2021, 11:42 PM

Well, our opinions on Lindor's contract are moot now. (They were moot before, as well.)

11-year, $341-million contract that split the difference. You guys got yourselves a shortstop until 2031.

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What is by far the biggest move of Steve Cohen’s five months of team ownership is also by far the richest contract in club history, more than double the previous record, held by David Wright. He got $138 million over eight years in a deal signed after the 2012 season, a year before he would have been a free agent.

Déjà Bru · 03-31-2021, 11:47 PM

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You guys got yourselves a shortstop until 2031.

Ooops, make that 2032. He is still in his current contract for 2021.

EDIT: Ooops again, maybe. There seems to be some confusion as to whether it's 10 years or 11 years. One local paper has 11 years; another has 10 years; ESPN says 10. Whatever; he'll be around for the next decade at least.

EDIT 2: Yeah, it's probably the news outlet that I first went to which goofed up; MLB.com says its 10 years, too. So the contract starts in 2022 and runs through 2031.

They all agree on the money, though!

Déjà Bru · 04-01-2021, 12:04 AM

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EDIT 2: Yeah, it's probably the news outlet that I first went to which goofed up; MLB.com says its 10 years, too. So the contract starts in 2022 and runs through 2031.

Quoted for truth (the news outlet, I mean).

I hit the refresh button and "11-year" had been replaced with "10-year":

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Nabbed them in the act! Vindication! My joy knows no bounds!

Westheim · 04-01-2021, 01:26 AM

So that's why a hot dog at the ballpark now costs $25.

(has never been to a ballpark)

The big relief for me is that A) we're spared six months of "well, if they negotiate again after the season...", and B) the way I am feeding myself, I won't have to worry about seeing 38-year-old Lindor looking like a 38-year-old shortstop at shortstop in 20-something.......

BBGiovanni · 04-01-2021, 12:41 PM

Mets win! Mets win! Oh, wait, they just win 3 more days off :/

I don't know why they are punished because the Nats are dumb.

swoboda · 04-01-2021, 12:56 PM

Opening Day for the Amazins postponed due to positive Covid test

Ugghhhh. And so it begins.

Westheim · 04-01-2021, 01:03 PM

**** them Gnats.

03-19-2021, 12:03 PM	#741
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03-19-2021, 01:16 PM	#742
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 10,952	Bright side: It's a leg, not an arm, injury. Above all, it's not TJ surgery. __________________ - Bru

03-23-2021, 03:01 PM	#744
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 12,931	McNeil pummeled again in this game, but I just want to drop in and request Conforto gets a shave. He looks weird with the beard. And the Metsies beat the Fish, 5-3! __________________ Portland Raccoons, 89 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

03-24-2021, 02:54 PM	#745
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 12,931	Metsies in mid-season form, score no runs in bleak 3-0 loss to Redbirds! __________________ Portland Raccoons, 89 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

03-28-2021, 12:29 PM	#747
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 10,952	Westheim, your wishing Jay Bruce on the Yankees has come true! (See the Yankees thread.) __________________ - Bru

03-30-2021, 01:48 AM	#748
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 12,931	Mets, Lindor reportedly far apart in contract talks 12 years, $385M? Well, then bugger off. Paying a shortstop dozens of dollars until he's inches from 40 years old apparently sounds too stupid even for the Metsies (who are said to have offered 10 years, $325M). Oops, technically Old Fart Cano is still no the payroll somewhere... __________________ Portland Raccoons, 89 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

03-30-2021, 04:54 PM	#750
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03-30-2021, 11:42 PM	#751
pgjocki All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Maryland - just outside DC Posts: 1,576 Blog Entries: 1	I'm in favor of capping contracts at 5 years but also letting guys hit free agency a year early. I don't care about the owners except that when they make bad decisions it eventually hurts the fans. The only flip side is that the owners have the money to pay a SS $385 million and just choose not to in most cases. If the players don't get the money the owner just keeps it and buys their wife another yacht or small village somewhere. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk __________________ - - - World Series championships: 1926, 1931, 1934, 1942, 1944, 1946, 1964, 1967, 1982, 2006, 2011

03-31-2021, 03:05 AM	#752
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 12,931	Uncle Steve says: "I hope he decides to sign." Well, if that doesn't instill confidence... Now excuse me, the Raccoons have to sign Alberto Ramos to a 7-year, $39M extension (which would be the highest annual salary in the league for a 35-year-old spherical former shortstop with no defensive position to put him). __________________ Portland Raccoons, 89 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

04-01-2021, 01:26 AM	#757
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 12,931	So that's why a hot dog at the ballpark now costs $25. (has never been to a ballpark) The big relief for me is that A) we're spared six months of "well, if they negotiate again after the season...", and B) the way I am feeding myself, I won't have to worry about seeing 38-year-old Lindor looking like a 38-year-old shortstop at shortstop in 20-something....... Attached Images __________________ Portland Raccoons, 89 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

04-01-2021, 12:41 PM	#758
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04-01-2021, 12:56 PM	#759
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04-01-2021, 01:03 PM	#760
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