The Official 2021 MLB Postseason Thread - Page 3

Westheim · 10-11-2021, 02:03 PM

Astros-White Sox Game 4 postponed to Tuesday.

(rocks back and forth, hoping for day game)

Westheim · 10-12-2021, 04:39 PM

There's something about a Red Sox - White Sox series that tickles my tummy. It rolls off the tongue so elegantly.

That being said, it's currently not close to happening... White Sox down 2-1 after three... games and innings in Game 4.

Déjà Bru · 10-12-2021, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Westheim

There's something about a Red Sox - White Sox series that tickles my tummy. It rolls off the tongue so elegantly.

It is a natural reaction for me: When my team ultimately fails, I hang my head for a while. With eyes lowered, I momentarily lose track of baseball comings and goings.

Imagine my surprise, then, to look up yesterday and learn that the Red Sox had beat the Rays in their ALDS.

The Tampa Bay Rays, feared monsters of the AL East all season long, unceremoniously bounced from the preliminary round of playoffs! I was like to choke on my Rice Chex!

Déjà Bru · 10-12-2021, 08:28 PM

A bit of a conundrum now, though. The moment that the Astr*s beat the Chisox to advance to the ALCS (again

), I became a deep and die-hard Bosox fan.

Yet, "The Red Sox ... are led by Manager Alex Cora, who was the Astros’ bench coach during the infamous 2017 season and was later suspended for the 2020 season for his role in Houston’s illegal sign-stealing scheme."

Well, my dislike of the Astr*s trumps that of Alex Cora — my animosity will continue until everyone from the 2017 team roster is gone — so, go Red Sox!

pilight · 10-12-2021, 10:52 PM

With all due respect to Kapler, Brian Snitker should be NL manager of the year

Izz · 10-12-2021, 11:22 PM

So, are the OOTP team way off with their predictions this season or what?

ThatSeventiesGuy · 10-13-2021, 01:08 AM

God, all the worst possible teams are winning. Lovely. At least the Braves won, but I don't really hate Milwaukee either, so that one's neutral for me. Unless the Giants can pull it out, though, it's Braves vs. Evil Guys.

Westheim · 10-13-2021, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

A bit of a conundrum now, though. The moment that the Astr*s beat the Chisox to advance to the ALCS (again

), I became a deep and die-hard Bosox fan.

Yet, "The Red Sox ... are led by Manager Alex Cora, who was the Astros’ bench coach during the infamous 2017 season and was later suspended for the 2020 season for his role in Houston’s illegal sign-stealing scheme."

Well, my dislike of the Astr*s trumps that of Alex Cora — my animosity will continue until everyone from the 2017 team roster is gone — so, go Red Sox!

Are you okay? Do you need a paper bag to breathe into? Or worse?

I *really* hoped the Giants would end the Blue Doom tonight. Nah. If the Dodgers advance, I will have to root for "Team AL", no matter who it is.

thehef · 10-13-2021, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

A bit of a conundrum now, though. The moment that the Astr*s beat the Chisox to advance to the ALCS (again

), I became a deep and die-hard Bosox fan.

Yet, "The Red Sox ... are led by Manager Alex Cora, who was the Astros’ bench coach during the infamous 2017 season and was later suspended for the 2020 season for his role in Houston’s illegal sign-stealing scheme."

Well, my dislike of the Astr*s trumps that of Alex Cora — my animosity will continue until everyone from the 2017 team roster is gone — so, go Red Sox!

Well put! Suffice to say: Same

thehef · 10-13-2021, 06:06 AM

Why all the hate for the Dodgers? They do things the right way, including building their team the most-respectable way possible, with a top-notch farm system, smart trades, and crafty pickups of those thought to be lost causes... (Pretty sure during this 9-year run, Mookie Betts is the only marquee free agent they've signed.)

One of the few great, classic stadiums left... The team of legendary broadcaster and good-guy Vin Scully... Very classy players, for the most part. Who cannot like guys like Kershaw, Urias, Buehler, Mookie (who is among the classiest superstars ever, in any sport), Bellinger, both Turners. Good dudes.

Sure, the Bauer signing was a black mark & a mistake. But that's a one-off, and it's not like other teams - the Yankees and BlackStros come to mind - don't have their versions of signing a very questionable character. Thankfully, in LA's case and unlike other teams, they rid themselves of the bad guy as soon as it became abundantly clear who he really was.

I mean, as a Dodger fan, I fan-hate the Giants. But I respect them as an organization. They, too, do things the right way, and have high-character good guys on their team.

cephasjames · 10-13-2021, 07:08 AM

If the Pittsburgh Pirates went on a 9 year run like LA has, people would be sick of the Pirates too. For me, at least, it's about being tired of seeing the same-ish teams year in and year out. Add to that that those same teams are the ones that routinely and greatly (with a few exceptions) outspend the other teams (no matter how they aquire their talent) and it gets annoying real fast.

Déjà Bru · 10-13-2021, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by thehef

Why all the hate for the Dodgers?

It's a natural reaction to success: jealousy. It's what the Yankees and their fans had to endure until recent years. It is nice to see other ballclubs being on the receiving end of it for a change.

Just yesterday, I read this indicative headline:

The Rich Got Considerably Richer

The Dodgers needed a starting pitcher, and they got a great one in Max Scherzer. That they added Trea Turner, a superstar infielder, in the same trade hardly seems fair.

It makes your blood boil if you are not a Dodgers fan, doesn't it?

Déjà Bru · 10-13-2021, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Just yesterday, I read this indicative headline ... It makes your blood boil ...

Here's another one that fits the bill for me!

Like It or Not, the Houston Astros Are Back in the A.L.C.S.

Suspicion follows them, but Houston’s buzz saw of an offense cut straight through the Chicago White Sox. Next up: Boston.

andyhdz · 10-13-2021, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

A bit of a conundrum now, though. The moment that the Astr*s beat the Chisox to advance to the ALCS (again

), I became a deep and die-hard Bosox fan.

Yet, "The Red Sox ... are led by Manager Alex Cora, who was the Astros’ bench coach during the infamous 2017 season and was later suspended for the 2020 season for his role in Houston’s illegal sign-stealing scheme."

Well, my dislike of the Astr*s trumps that of Alex Cora — my animosity will continue until everyone from the 2017 team roster is gone — so, go Red Sox!

You know Cora was not just as participant but one of the main guys who ran the whole thing right? Kinda shows your disdain for the Astros is more because they beat the Yankees and less about the cheating.

cephasjames · 10-13-2021, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

It's a natural reaction to success: jealousy. It's what the Yankees and their fans had to endure until recent years. It is nice to see other ballclubs being on the receiving end of it for a change.

Just yesterday, I read this indicative headline:

The Rich Got Considerably Richer

The Dodgers needed a starting pitcher, and they got a great one in Max Scherzer. That they added Trea Turner, a superstar infielder, in the same trade hardly seems fair.

It makes your blood boil if you are not a Dodgers fan, doesn't it?

Sure, jealousy can be a part of it (as a Detroit Red Wings fan, I have felt that jealousy before - not now obviously

). But having the same 8-10 teams, plus the occasional surprise team, compete almost every year while the remaining 20 struggle doesn't make for a good overall product.

I mean, at this point, as unsuccessful as the Yankees have been in the post-season for the last 20 years they're just kind of uselessly buying up players that could help other teams who are on the cusp do better. New York obviously doesn't know how to win with them, but because they have the money to throw around the players play for them.

pilight · 10-13-2021, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cephasjames

If the Pittsburgh Pirates went on a 9 year run like LA has, people would be sick of the Pirates too.

I wouldn't reach the same level as it does when it's a team in a big coastal city where they say "flyover country" unironically

thehef · 10-13-2021, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cephasjames

If the Pittsburgh Pirates went on a 9 year run like LA has, people would be sick of the Pirates too. For me, at least, it's about being tired of seeing the same-ish teams year in and year out.

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

It's a natural reaction to success: jealousy. It's what the Yankees and their fans had to endure until recent years. It is nice to see other ballclubs being on the receiving end of it for a change.

Ok, sure. I get that.

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Just yesterday, I read this indicative headline:

The Rich Got Considerably Richer

The Dodgers needed a starting pitcher, and they got a great one in Max Scherzer. That they added Trea Turner, a superstar infielder, in the same trade hardly seems fair.

It makes your blood boil if you are not a Dodgers fan, doesn't it?

The rich got richer, sure - at least the for the moment. But it's not like the Dodgers fleeced the Nats. They gave up two blue-chippers (Ruiz was LA's #1 prospect and Gray was their #2) and another decent prospect (Carrillo, their #17)... Add to that the fact that Scherzer is a FA after this season and Trea Turner becomes one after 2022, and this trade could possibly look somewhat lopsided in the other direction if the Dodgers don't win the Big Trophy.

But I get it. Not every team had the resources to make that kind of trade. LA can both lose those prospects and then see Scherzer walk and not really feel it. Which I guess brings us to the whole salary cap & market conditions discussion, and that leads us to the question of - under current rules - is LA supposed to act upon their advantages (which they didn't in the many years before current ownership), or operate as if they were in a Cleveland-like market?

Granted, none of that changes the jealousy/sick of them winning angles, but still...

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Here's another one that fits the bill for me!

Like It or Not, the Houston Astros Are Back in the A.L.C.S.

Suspicion follows them, but Houston’s buzz saw of an offense cut straight through the Chicago White Sox. Next up: Boston.

Not that you were necessarily linking the two, but there ought to be much more disdain & fan-hate for the BlackStros than the Dodgers. If there is the antithesis of the Dodgers doing things the right way, it's the BlackStros.

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You know Cora was not just as participant but one of the main guys who ran the whole thing right? Kinda shows your disdain for the Astros is more because they beat the Yankees and less about the cheating.

Or, it could show that in a choice between two evils, one chooses the lesser of the two evils, and sides with the one who actually accepted some responsibility & punishment for the scheme... as opposed to the BlackStro players, who basically flipped the middle digit to anyone questioning their character or suggesting that they actually benefited from their cheating scheme.

Revisiting...

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Originally Posted by cephasjames

If the Pittsburgh Pirates went on a 9 year run like LA has, people would be sick of the Pirates too.

Perhaps. But as sure as taxes and death, we'll never know...

Déjà Bru · 10-13-2021, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by andyhdz

You know Cora was not just as participant but one of the main guys who ran the whole thing right? Kinda shows your disdain for the Astros is more because they beat the Yankees and less about the cheating.

Definitely. I did not mind the Yankees losing to the Astr*s in the 2017 ALCS — they did appear to be the superior team — until I learned about the cheating the AstrI*s had done.

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Originally Posted by thehef

Not that you were necessarily linking the two, but there ought to be much more disdain & fan-hate for the BlackStros than the Dodgers. If there is the antithesis of the Dodgers doing things the right way, it's the BlackStros.

That is certainly the case with me.

cephasjames · 10-13-2021, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thehef

Perhaps. But as sure as taxes and death, we'll never know...

This is exactly what I was feeling as I wrote that too.

cephasjames · 10-13-2021, 05:14 PM

Anyway. Tomorrow, SF takes down LA.

ALCS: Houston over Boston
NLCS: Atlanta over SF

WS: Atlanta over Houston

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thehef Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,345	Why all the hate for the Dodgers? They do things the right way, including building their team the most-respectable way possible, with a top-notch farm system, smart trades, and crafty pickups of those thought to be lost causes... (Pretty sure during this 9-year run, Mookie Betts is the only marquee free agent they've signed.) One of the few great, classic stadiums left... The team of legendary broadcaster and good-guy Vin Scully... Very classy players, for the most part. Who cannot like guys like Kershaw, Urias, Buehler, Mookie (who is among the classiest superstars ever, in any sport), Bellinger, both Turners. Good dudes. Sure, the Bauer signing was a black mark & a mistake. But that's a one-off, and it's not like other teams - the Yankees and BlackStros come to mind - don't have their versions of signing a very questionable character. Thankfully, in LA's case and unlike other teams, they rid themselves of the bad guy as soon as it became abundantly clear who he really was. I mean, as a Dodger fan, I fan-hate the Giants. But I respect them as an organization. They, too, do things the right way, and have high-character good guys on their team.

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