Making an inaugural draft with greatest players ever???

JRock77420 · 01-11-2022, 08:15 PM

Okay so I have been trying and looking for weeks now to do this. Ive seen posts that I thought were telling me and videos that I thought were telling me but not so much. So this is what I want to do, plain and simple......start a custom league with all 30 teams but no one on the rosters. I want to set up an inaugural draft for all 30 teams to fill rosters but I want the draft pool of players to be the all time best players ever. I'm talking from Ruth to Griffey, Ted Williams to Mike Trout and from Cy Young to Greg Maddox. All players in their prime of course. So it would just be a 30 team and 26 picks per team draft. That's only 780 players and I know their is historical player files with way more than that but I could have 100-150 more not drafted in free agent pool afterwards. Anyways, I KNOW it's possible to do this. Anything is possible on this game but I am either not understanding or just missing something because everything I try to do doesn't work. I've tried making a custom league and just changing every team's roster to the best roster they ever had but I don't want to do that. I want a complete fresh start. Anyone can go to any team. That's why I want my draft pool to be the all time best players in the prime their careers. So can someone, anyone help me to make this happen? Someone said I can join a custom online league but again, I just want my own league, with the players available for inaugural draft to be the best ever. How can I do this? I would obviously need a draft pool file to import with those players, correct? I also want all the other Gameface files and mods for managers, umpires, uniforms, ect. So I would need my database folder to have....what in it? And where do I go from that point? Forgive me, I just started playing ootp this year so maybe it's super easy to do. Can someone PLEASE be my hero and offer a novice a little much needed help? I would appreciate anything anyone can do so much. Thanks guys

LansdowneSt · 01-11-2022, 11:20 PM

Welcome to OOTP

Yes, this can be done. Here are the steps:

1. Create your league and all the teams. Sounds like you did this.
2. Delete all the players in the league
3. Make a list of all the players you want and the respective year you want to reflect them in. So, for Ted Willaims do you want 1941 or 1946? For Pedro Martinez, 1999 or 2000?
4. Import those players from the Free Agent Screen (far right drop down, Actions>Import Historical Players). You are going to use the Baseball-Reference code at the end of the player's bRef page as the import code (Teddy Williams is willite01 for example). Then put the year you want to conjure them up from.
5. To get them in an Inaugural Draft, import them all and then when all your desired players are free agents, go to league settings and hit the schedule fantasy draft button, this will empty all of the free agents into the inaugural draft pool.

The facegen pack is here: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=313740

I have many uniforms and logos from over the years so I've lost track of where the best one-stop currently is for those but others can chime in - both for that and if I missed a step in the above instructions. Reach out again with any questions on any step.

Lots of folks on here can help and again, welcome again to OOTP-land

luckymann · 01-12-2022, 03:21 AM

LSt has given you most of what you need.

I'd go for the silvam historical uniforms mod

and the parks he did with adion

or, if you wanted to steer clear from MLB teams then txranger is your guy. This thread will get you started and go to his google drive accessible via his signature.

What you are trying to do is very much possible, but laborious as well. I suggest you plan it all out in advance and take your time putting it into effect. Look at my signature - I know all about it

My PBL is built along similar lines.

Offer up some more specific questions and you'll get more specific answers.

Or, if it all seems too hard, go to the Quickstarts mod forum and peruse, there may be one already set up that suits your needs to a certain degree as long as you're willing to make some compromises.

Good luck!

G

JRock77420 · 01-12-2022, 07:03 PM

Thank you SO much guys. I wish I could say everything went perfectly but not so much. I don't understand stand what I'm doing or not doing but Everytime I think I'm almost a really done preparing to actually start my league, something screws it up. Maybe if you could make a video doing exactly what I did they I can parrot it. Then I'll make a video back doing the same and we caan know what is wrong or it's is fixed. Idk, just the only thing I can. Think of left to try. Abs I appreciate the welcome to the group. Ill be having alot more fun once I'm actually going. Lol

luckymann · 01-12-2022, 07:25 PM

What in particular is going wrong bud?

LansdowneSt · 01-12-2022, 08:38 PM

Here it is in seven pdf steps. The graphics in the screen shots made the files large and one can only post things lower than 500k, hence the 7 pdfs... but as they all say Part 1-7 at the end, I trust ya to go in the correct order

LansdowneSt · 01-12-2022, 08:38 PM

Here's the rest...

LansdowneSt · 01-12-2022, 08:41 PM

Come back on if you have trouble with the other add-ons like the facegens or where to put the jerseys and ballcaps and logos, etc. but for now, the 30 teams will use all their 2021 garb as we kept the teams and just dumped the current players...

luckymann · 01-12-2022, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Come back on if you have trouble with the other add-ons like the facegens or where to put the jerseys and ballcaps and logos, etc. but for now, the 30 teams will use all their 2021 garb as we kept the teams and just dumped the current players...

Just a true legend of these boards, LSt. A real mench.

JRock77420 · 01-13-2022, 08:27 AM

Think I actually got it now. Lol. One question though. Is there a faster way to import the players you want? A word program or tool that will get the players ID faster than me having to do each player myself and copy and paste?

luckymann · 01-13-2022, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRock77420

Think I actually got it now. Lol. One question though. Is there a faster way to import the players you want? A word program or tool that will get the players ID faster than me having to do each player myself and copy and paste?

How would it know which players to grab?

Curve Ball Dave · 01-13-2022, 09:48 AM

I considered doing something like this once. Then I thought about it. If everyone is "great", then no one is great. Creating a league of only the best of all time simply shifts the ratings of an average player a little higher.

But that's just me.

luckymann · 01-13-2022, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curve Ball Dave

I considered doing something like this once. Then I thought about it. If everyone is "great", then no one is great. Creating a league of only the best of all time simply shifts the ratings of an average player a little higher.

But that's just me.

Each to their own, but there are many degrees of greatness. The fun in this sort of league is to see who rises to the top.

Curve Ball Dave · 01-13-2022, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luckymann

Each to their own, but there are many degrees of greatness. The fun in this sort of league is to see who rises to the top.

Indeed. I'm not saying don't do it. It might be a fun experiment to see who comes out as the best of the best.

Brad K · 01-13-2022, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curve Ball Dave

I considered doing something like this once. Then I thought about it. If everyone is "great", then no one is great. Creating a league of only the best of all time simply shifts the ratings of an average player a little higher.

But that's just me.

Not just you. I'm with you on this.

But as long as people understand many of their players won't perform like real life... Problem is those who don't understand that and are surprised by the results.

Brad K · 01-13-2022, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luckymann

Each to their own, but there are many degrees of greatness. The fun in this sort of league is to see who rises to the top.

The people who rise to the top are likely the same people who rise to the top against a normal talent distribution. Of course, with all things OOTP, there is randomness to the outcomes, and, it seems, more extreme than real life.

LansdowneSt · 01-13-2022, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRock77420

Think I actually got it now. Lol. One question though. Is there a faster way to import the players you want? A word program or tool that will get the players ID faster than me having to do each player myself and copy and paste?

Alas, the Notepad (not Word) way is the best way. The alternative is to do one player at a time. By doing the Notepad, though, you have the advantage of messing up something in the set-up of the game, starting over, fixing the Game Setting you want to tweak... and then with a single import click, bringing all the greats back ... as opposed to hundreds and hundreds of individual imports to get back to square one after realizing you missed a macro world setting you want to tweak.

luckymann · 01-13-2022, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Alas, the Notepad (not Word) way is the best way. The alternative is to do one player at a time. By doing the Notepad, though, you have the advantage of messing up something in the set-up of the game, starting over, fixing the Game Setting you want to tweak... and then with a single import click, bringing all the greats back ... as opposed to hundreds and hundreds of individual imports to get back to square one after realizing you missed a macro world setting you want to tweak.

Excel is another option. You can use an xlsx then save it as a csv then change the suffix of that file from csv to txt and import using that.

luckymann · 01-13-2022, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad K

Not just you. I'm with you on this.

But as long as people understand many of their players won't perform like real life... Problem is those who don't understand that and are surprised by the results.

As usual with you Bradley my friend, there is much truth in this statement.

Referring it back to the OP, what you will almost certainly see in a league of this type is a varying degree of flattening out of stats. Because of how the game's ratings work with the finite amount of hits, HR etc to be distributed among the players, you are far more likely to see 20 guys hitting 30-40 HR than one guy hitting 60 or 70. You might get the occasional "outlier" with a big season, but generally the group will be more tightly packed around the mean in most categories.

Brad K · 01-14-2022, 12:10 AM

Two things going on. One is the league totals function controls overall output and players are facing tougher competition. The effect on players, both hitters and pitchers, not performing as well as in real life occurs in games that don't have a league totals function as OOTP does.

This is a situation where it would be nice if OOTP didn't have league totals because with that we really don't have a simulation of what the best would do against each other.

01-11-2022, 08:15 PM	#1
JRock77420 Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: Mansfield, TX Posts: 4	Making an inaugural draft with greatest players ever??? Okay so I have been trying and looking for weeks now to do this. Ive seen posts that I thought were telling me and videos that I thought were telling me but not so much. So this is what I want to do, plain and simple......start a custom league with all 30 teams but no one on the rosters. I want to set up an inaugural draft for all 30 teams to fill rosters but I want the draft pool of players to be the all time best players ever. I'm talking from Ruth to Griffey, Ted Williams to Mike Trout and from Cy Young to Greg Maddox. All players in their prime of course. So it would just be a 30 team and 26 picks per team draft. That's only 780 players and I know their is historical player files with way more than that but I could have 100-150 more not drafted in free agent pool afterwards. Anyways, I KNOW it's possible to do this. Anything is possible on this game but I am either not understanding or just missing something because everything I try to do doesn't work. I've tried making a custom league and just changing every team's roster to the best roster they ever had but I don't want to do that. I want a complete fresh start. Anyone can go to any team. That's why I want my draft pool to be the all time best players in the prime their careers. So can someone, anyone help me to make this happen? Someone said I can join a custom online league but again, I just want my own league, with the players available for inaugural draft to be the best ever. How can I do this? I would obviously need a draft pool file to import with those players, correct? I also want all the other Gameface files and mods for managers, umpires, uniforms, ect. So I would need my database folder to have....what in it? And where do I go from that point? Forgive me, I just started playing ootp this year so maybe it's super easy to do. Can someone PLEASE be my hero and offer a novice a little much needed help? I would appreciate anything anyone can do so much. Thanks guys

01-11-2022, 11:20 PM	#2
LansdowneSt Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: From Duxbury, Mass residing Baltimore Posts: 7,394	Welcome to OOTP Yes, this can be done. Here are the steps: 1. Create your league and all the teams. Sounds like you did this. 2. Delete all the players in the league 3. Make a list of all the players you want and the respective year you want to reflect them in. So, for Ted Willaims do you want 1941 or 1946? For Pedro Martinez, 1999 or 2000? 4. Import those players from the Free Agent Screen (far right drop down, Actions>Import Historical Players). You are going to use the Baseball-Reference code at the end of the player's bRef page as the import code (Teddy Williams is willite01 for example). Then put the year you want to conjure them up from. 5. To get them in an Inaugural Draft, import them all and then when all your desired players are free agents, go to league settings and hit the schedule fantasy draft button, this will empty all of the free agents into the inaugural draft pool. The facegen pack is here: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=313740 I have many uniforms and logos from over the years so I've lost track of where the best one-stop currently is for those but others can chime in - both for that and if I missed a step in the above instructions. Reach out again with any questions on any step. Lots of folks on here can help and again, welcome again to OOTP-land Last edited by LansdowneSt; 01-11-2022 at 11:54 PM.

01-12-2022, 03:21 AM	#3
luckymann Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 13,378	LSt has given you most of what you need. I'd go for the silvam historical uniforms mod and the parks he did with adion or, if you wanted to steer clear from MLB teams then txranger is your guy. This thread will get you started and go to his google drive accessible via his signature. What you are trying to do is very much possible, but laborious as well. I suggest you plan it all out in advance and take your time putting it into effect. Look at my signature - I know all about it My PBL is built along similar lines. Offer up some more specific questions and you'll get more specific answers. Or, if it all seems too hard, go to the Quickstarts mod forum and peruse, there may be one already set up that suits your needs to a certain degree as long as you're willing to make some compromises. Good luck! G __________________ HISTORICAL DO-OVERS A'S RED SOX DODGERS CUSTOM SAVES ECLIPSE LEAGUE MOON SHOT LEAGUE EVERYMAN LEAGUE GULF LEAGUE USBA Last edited by luckymann; 01-12-2022 at 03:24 AM.

01-12-2022, 07:25 PM	#5
luckymann Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 13,378	What in particular is going wrong bud? __________________ HISTORICAL DO-OVERS A'S RED SOX DODGERS CUSTOM SAVES ECLIPSE LEAGUE MOON SHOT LEAGUE EVERYMAN LEAGUE GULF LEAGUE USBA

01-13-2022, 09:48 AM	#12
Curve Ball Dave Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,357	I considered doing something like this once. Then I thought about it. If everyone is "great", then no one is great. Creating a league of only the best of all time simply shifts the ratings of an average player a little higher. But that's just me. __________________ "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.

01-12-2022, 07:03 PM	#4
JRock77420 Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: Mansfield, TX Posts: 4	Thank you SO much guys. I wish I could say everything went perfectly but not so much. I don't understand stand what I'm doing or not doing but Everytime I think I'm almost a really done preparing to actually start my league, something screws it up. Maybe if you could make a video doing exactly what I did they I can parrot it. Then I'll make a video back doing the same and we caan know what is wrong or it's is fixed. Idk, just the only thing I can. Think of left to try. Abs I appreciate the welcome to the group. Ill be having alot more fun once I'm actually going. Lol

01-12-2022, 08:41 PM	#8
LansdowneSt Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: From Duxbury, Mass residing Baltimore Posts: 7,394	Come back on if you have trouble with the other add-ons like the facegens or where to put the jerseys and ballcaps and logos, etc. but for now, the 30 teams will use all their 2021 garb as we kept the teams and just dumped the current players...

01-13-2022, 08:27 AM	#10
JRock77420 Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: Mansfield, TX Posts: 4	Think I actually got it now. Lol. One question though. Is there a faster way to import the players you want? A word program or tool that will get the players ID faster than me having to do each player myself and copy and paste?

01-14-2022, 12:10 AM	#20
Brad K Banned Join Date: May 2016 Location: St Petersburg Florida USA Posts: 6,693 Infractions: 0/2 (4)	Two things going on. One is the league totals function controls overall output and players are facing tougher competition. The effect on players, both hitters and pitchers, not performing as well as in real life occurs in games that don't have a league totals function as OOTP does. This is a situation where it would be nice if OOTP didn't have league totals because with that we really don't have a simulation of what the best would do against each other.