multiple 60+ homerun players - Page 3

SirMichaelJordan · 05-27-2022, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mschroe

36 now, 20 round, 30 rounds worth produced. Int'l Amateur FA, Int' Development Complex, and Int'l FAs all turned off (side note: I change my draft origins to mirror current MLB roster country origins instead of using scouting discovery systems.)

fictional players are created with low power therefore the players that actually do get a high power rated rack up most of the HR's

mschroe · 05-27-2022, 06:28 PM

Right, I get that. The distribution of power is skewed too wide, which is reflected in enormous totals year-in, year-out for top HR hitters. The issue has been a problem with avoid K for years, leading to too many 170+ avoid K ratings and to some .400 seasons and flirtations with .400 near every season at default player modifiers. I've been reducing the avoid K for years, but not as much as your PCMs.

This set of a few outliers on HRs is just more extreme and I wasn't able to keep the nearly all fictional players leagues in check (whereas your PCMs worked wonders in 2020s and early 2030s to avoid multiple players smashing 50+ HRs and some seasons of 60 for 10 - 15 years despite the league totals being in line).

locuspc · 05-27-2022, 08:04 PM

I wonder if power for fictional players is broken like stuff was and it's just harder to notice with power.

SirMichaelJordan · 05-27-2022, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by locuspc

I wonder if power for fictional players is broken like stuff was and it's just harder to notice with power.

I wouldn’t say broken. The player creation modifiers never really got the upgrade it desperately needs to match the real world roster set. In order words, the more years you go into the save, the less talented players will become compared to the default roster set. Although, you’ll run into freakishly fast baseball players in the future as running speed is too high on default PCMs.

locuspc · 05-28-2022, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SirMichaelJordan

I wouldn’t say broken. The player creation modifiers never really got the upgrade it desperately needs to match the real world roster set. In order words, the more years you go into the save, the less talented players will become compared to the default roster set. Although, you’ll run into freakishly fast baseball players in the future as running speed is too high on default PCMs.

Yeah, but I'm wondering if that's just bad settings or if there's a bug. The level of bugginess of this version overall doesn't make me trust it to be working as intended. There definitely seem to be more players generated with effectively 0 power, which is leading to the league HR totals being concentrated in the ones that aren't, and it doesn't seem like they would deliberately set it up that way. So that's why I think there might be a bug involved, especially since we saw a similar bug with pitchers.

oomm · 05-28-2022, 08:49 AM

The game is unplayable in career mode without running autocalc on opening day of each season. Even then, I have had to occasionally provide some doctoring after autocalcing suspicious numbers. I think other variables effect performances (eg HR totals could be effected by rotation sizes, and/or pitcher stamina etc)?

Mat · 05-28-2022, 09:52 AM

You should definitely run auto calc each opening day.

Having said that, I do agree there is something off here with offence.

Syd Thrift · 05-29-2022, 02:50 PM

Yeah, the game even does autocalc for you if you check that box. I can’t imagine playing without doing that, especially if you’re doing historical seasons.

Bobbyraz49 · 05-31-2022, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

Yeah, the game even does autocalc for you if you check that box. I can’t imagine playing without doing that, especially if you’re doing historical seasons.

Hey Sid.
By default is autocalc on ? If not can you show me where to find it?
ALWAYS appreciate your assistance !

Syd Thrift · 05-31-2022, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobbyraz49

Hey Sid.
By default is autocalc on ? If not can you show me where to find it?
ALWAYS appreciate your assistance !

Here:

Bobbyraz49 · 06-01-2022, 08:43 AM

Thanks Syd.

dodgerblue88 · 10-18-2022, 01:17 PM

So my fictional league is now at the point where I'm seeing the same issue, crazy unbalanced distribution of power/hr leaders.

What is the net effect of increasing the power PCM if I have autocalc running each year to a modern day MLB environment? I understand my total hr's won't change, but does that mean I'll see more 80 grade HR guys and less variation among the power rating? Or does it effectively just raise the floor of the power rating for newly created players? Or both?

I guess what I don't wanna end up with is a bunch of 80 rated power guys who all hit 40hr a year, because that would essentially dilute the importance of the power rating.

oldfatbaldguy · 10-18-2022, 01:24 PM

What are your ballparks like? I let the wizard create my fictional leagues, including the ballparks, and it doesn't necessarily create a ratio of Coors to Petco that matches real-life MLB. I had a guy hit 80 home runs once and it was realistic, imo, given the fictional park factors in my fictional league.

dodgerblue88 · 10-18-2022, 01:36 PM

I run a fictional/historical league currently in the 2016 season, so the parks and factors are all real MLB.

10-18-2022, 01:17 PM	#52
dodgerblue88 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Whittier, CA Posts: 196	So my fictional league is now at the point where I'm seeing the same issue, crazy unbalanced distribution of power/hr leaders. What is the net effect of increasing the power PCM if I have autocalc running each year to a modern day MLB environment? I understand my total hr's won't change, but does that mean I'll see more 80 grade HR guys and less variation among the power rating? Or does it effectively just raise the floor of the power rating for newly created players? Or both? I guess what I don't wanna end up with is a bunch of 80 rated power guys who all hit 40hr a year, because that would essentially dilute the importance of the power rating. Last edited by dodgerblue88; 10-18-2022 at 01:18 PM.

05-27-2022, 06:28 PM	#42
mschroe Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Nov 2021 Posts: 25	Right, I get that. The distribution of power is skewed too wide, which is reflected in enormous totals year-in, year-out for top HR hitters. The issue has been a problem with avoid K for years, leading to too many 170+ avoid K ratings and to some .400 seasons and flirtations with .400 near every season at default player modifiers. I've been reducing the avoid K for years, but not as much as your PCMs. This set of a few outliers on HRs is just more extreme and I wasn't able to keep the nearly all fictional players leagues in check (whereas your PCMs worked wonders in 2020s and early 2030s to avoid multiple players smashing 50+ HRs and some seasons of 60 for 10 - 15 years despite the league totals being in line).

05-27-2022, 08:04 PM	#43
locuspc Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2022 Posts: 298	I wonder if power for fictional players is broken like stuff was and it's just harder to notice with power.

05-28-2022, 08:49 AM	#46
oomm Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 191	The game is unplayable in career mode without running autocalc on opening day of each season. Even then, I have had to occasionally provide some doctoring after autocalcing suspicious numbers. I think other variables effect performances (eg HR totals could be effected by rotation sizes, and/or pitcher stamina etc)?

05-28-2022, 09:52 AM	#47
Mat All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 652	You should definitely run auto calc each opening day. Having said that, I do agree there is something off here with offence.

06-01-2022, 08:43 AM	#51
Bobbyraz49 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 891	Thanks Syd.

10-18-2022, 01:24 PM	#53
oldfatbaldguy Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 352	What are your ballparks like? I let the wizard create my fictional leagues, including the ballparks, and it doesn't necessarily create a ratio of Coors to Petco that matches real-life MLB. I had a guy hit 80 home runs once and it was realistic, imo, given the fictional park factors in my fictional league.

10-18-2022, 01:36 PM	#54
dodgerblue88 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Whittier, CA Posts: 196	I run a fictional/historical league currently in the 2016 season, so the parks and factors are all real MLB.