Complaint Thread - I Could Be Wrong

[The Game]

Why does it seem like 24 is too reliant on trading too much cash or playing the full salary of a player? Perhaps i am not up to date on cash consideration deal in MLB and granted i have 4 active leagues in this universe so it's amplified but how does a team that lost 101 games, Dodgers, and has a new owner give up $22 m?

[Pelican]

I can’t fathom this. It reminds me of the Depression years, when Connie Mack and owners of other struggling franchises were selling off good players to pay the bills and keep the team alive (albeit losing). When the Commissioner voided straight cash transactions, they would add Joey Bagadonuts to the deal in addition to the dough. But Gonzalez is no Bagadonuts.

I don’t know exactly what financial universe you are in, but the salary for Gonzalez suggests it is not a dystopian future of $100,000 cups of coffee (the real kind; not the brief MLB tenure) where $22,590,000 would buy a Detroit sedan.

I’m intrigued by the $590,000. That suggests that the AI did some calculation. Was this a deal to pay some % of salary? I don’t see how a AAA player would have a deal like that.

I think this qualifies as a bug.

[jpeters1734]

I've seen minimal cash in trades in my leagues. I wonder if you're seeing large numbers because maybe your teams have a lot of cash built up

[Sweed]

Something with your settings and league finances? Max cash so high in your league teams want to, or at least are free to spend it somewhere?

Never seen anything like it in my game. Teams will pay all, or retain a large proportion of salary. Trades that include cash, at all, are quite rare and I normally see 25-28 of the teams in my league running in the green.

If it were my league I'd be looking over the finances and if I couldn't find something there that I thought was the cause I'd post in the bugs forum and send in a save file. I'd think they'd have to see the league in it's entirety to be able to see what happened and why.

[The Game]

Originally Posted by jpeters1734

I've seen minimal cash in trades in my leagues. I wonder if you're seeing large numbers because maybe your teams have a lot of cash built up

Perhaps its large cash on hand but i should clarify that it's teams paying the majority, often 100% of the traded players contract. Look at my last several pages in my EBL vs MLB league and you'll see over 20 players whee their entire contract, usually just 1 yr but in 3 cases 2 seasons salary is paid in full.
https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...l+mlb&page=587


here are a few examples. Caine has just 1 yr remaining.


Connor has 2 years remaining and the IBL financials are set for 1977 with 1-2% inflation.



This guy has 6 yrs left on his contract but i guess 10% of 96 M isn't that big of a deal.



1 yr remaining, paying around $11 m





1 yr remaining

[The Game]

Originally Posted by Sweed

Something with your settings and league finances? Max cash so high in your league teams want to, or at least are free to spend it somewhere?

Never seen anything like it in my game. Teams will pay all, or retain a large proportion of salary. Trades that include cash, at all, are quite rare and I normally see 25-28 of the teams in my league running in the green.

If it were my league I'd be looking over the finances and if I couldn't find something there that I thought was the cause I'd post in the bugs forum and send in a save file. I'd think they'd have to see the league in it's entirety to be able to see what happened and why.

I am not seeing anything out of the norm. MLB is modern with 1-3% inflation. EBL is 2008 with 1-2, UBL is modern with 1-3, IBL is 1977 with 1-2.

EDIT: i don't remember turning off revenue sharing, turning that back on.

[jpeters1734]

There it is. one of your leagues has an average profit of 68 million and the other 149 million. If I were a GM making 150 million in profit, I'd retain 100% salary too if it meant I could get a better return

[The Game]

Originally Posted by jpeters1734

There it is. one of your leagues has an average profit of 68 million and the other 149 million. If I were a GM making 150 million in profit, I'd retain 100% salary too if it meant I could get a better return

Oddly it's the 2 leagues with normal profits that are retaining the salaries, not MLB or UBL. Thanx for the catch.

How do i fix this? Refresh seems to do nothing and i'd prefer not to reset them back to modern 2023 when i have had 3-4 seasons of inflation.

[The_Niddler]

I am here to ask for help with the financials in OOTP24.
They completely changed the way the financials work and I am not understanding the new way.

I understand they took away the Cash on Hand field.

But things are not adding up for me, at least in my mind.


My team has been in the green for 5 full seasons.
Some of them, way in the green, financially.
Last season, I lost 5M total for the season.

This season, I have 1.2M available for extensions.
I understand it is because when you look at the beginning and ending balances from season to season, the difference between my 2 seasons is 1.2M dollars.
However, it is not truly that.

I have a couple 28 year old "veterans" on my team.
Their contract is up at the end of this season. They do not have arb years or anything going forward.
If I look at the salary screen, it is just blank going forward, as it should be, because their current contract ends at the end of this current season.

But when I go to offer them an extension, the game shows their next years arb estimate. It is some arbitrary number that the game feels they are worth next year.
If I sign a player under the estimated arb estimate, my $ available for extensions goes up by 448k.
Because I am signing the guy to a 2 year contract for $224k less per year then the arb estimate.
So my $ available for extensions actually goes up by $448k.

Even though the guy does not show any arb years for me going forward, as he should not.

So the financials are completely messed up.
Even though the game says my team has $1.2M available for extensions, I have more than that available.
I technically have my current player expenses available.

My team has $65M total money available, but because the financials were re-worked to show the difference from the current season to the next projected as the money available for extensions, it shows me as only having 1.2M available for extensions but it is not taking into account my current player expenses.

And I still argue that a big change like this should have been openly communicated to everyone prior to the game coming out.
Those of us that run online leagues were completely shocked after we upgrade to the new version of OOTP24 and all of a sudden a team that had tons of money available, went to having nothing available because financials were completely redone and reconfigured.

But the problem is, it is still not reporting things the right way.
My team doesn't really only have 1.2M available for extensions. If that were true, then I would not be able to sign a guy to a 2 year contract worth 2.8M per season.

I am trying to understand this as a commish of an online league, so I can help the rest of my league understand this.
I should not need a degree in finance to understand money coming in and money going out and the difference between them. lol

[jpeters1734]

Originally Posted by The_Niddler

I am here to ask for help with the financials in OOTP24.
They completely changed the way the financials work and I am not understanding the new way.

I understand they took away the Cash on Hand field.

But things are not adding up for me, at least in my mind.


My team has been in the green for 5 full seasons.
Some of them, way in the green, financially.
Last season, I lost 5M total for the season.

This season, I have 1.2M available for extensions.
I understand it is because when you look at the beginning and ending balances from season to season, the difference between my 2 seasons is 1.2M dollars.
However, it is not truly that.

I have a couple 28 year old "veterans" on my team.
Their contract is up at the end of this season. They do not have arb years or anything going forward.
If I look at the salary screen, it is just blank going forward, as it should be, because their current contract ends at the end of this current season.

But when I go to offer them an extension, the game shows their next years arb estimate. It is some arbitrary number that the game feels they are worth next year.
If I sign a player under the estimated arb estimate, my $ available for extensions goes up by 448k.
Because I am signing the guy to a 2 year contract for $224k less per year then the arb estimate.
So my $ available for extensions actually goes up by $448k.

Even though the guy does not show any arb years for me going forward, as he should not.

So the financials are completely messed up.
Even though the game says my team has $1.2M available for extensions, I have more than that available.
I technically have my current player expenses available.

My team has $65M total money available, but because the financials were re-worked to show the difference from the current season to the next projected as the money available for extensions, it shows me as only having 1.2M available for extensions but it is not taking into account my current player expenses.

And I still argue that a big change like this should have been openly communicated to everyone prior to the game coming out.
Those of us that run online leagues were completely shocked after we upgrade to the new version of OOTP24 and all of a sudden a team that had tons of money available, went to having nothing available because financials were completely redone and reconfigured.

But the problem is, it is still not reporting things the right way.
My team doesn't really only have 1.2M available for extensions. If that were true, then I would not be able to sign a guy to a 2 year contract worth 2.8M per season.

I am trying to understand this as a commish of an online league, so I can help the rest of my league understand this.
I should not need a degree in finance to understand money coming in and money going out and the difference between them. lol

I can't even begin to help without seeing some screenshots

[snepp]

Originally Posted by jpeters1734

I can't even begin to help without seeing some screenshots

Concur. Pics or it didn't happen.