Detailed dimensions MiLB parks

clamel · 11-09-2023, 01:18 PM

This might be too much to ask, BUT
checking up on many great 3d models made I now and then find some dimensions and wall heights to be a little wrong, when one checking up on available info on those ballparks.

So my question is if someone know a very special website with crazy details info on those numbers.
Often one find Left,Center,Right, but not Left center/Right center, which are in this game.

The more details the happier I will be. There got to be a super detailed website somewhere out there.

One example is Sacrmaneot River Cats, Sutter Health Park
In game it's 430 feet to center field,
but on all info I can find it's actually only 403 feet.
Changing that number and one need to figure out LCF and RCF which must be shorter than sat by OOTP.
The park is created by the great eriqjaffe, but clearly he did not alter the dimensions that came with the game.

Then not sure how much these dimension play in at all when playing. Perhaps it's all the ballpark factors that decide the outcome of long balls into the outfield.

micropterus58 · 11-09-2023, 01:54 PM

Wikipedia may have some info. Websites for the teams may be a good source. I have never seem a site with MiLB park info like there are for MLB parks. Here's Sacramento. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutter_Health_Park
https://www.milb.com/

Charlie Hough · 11-09-2023, 06:43 PM

I suspect that the 430 feet for center field was a transposition typo in the data, since the real dimension is supposedly 403.

More recent ballparks are a matter of continual updates, and I think the OOTP community has played a big part in trying to help make sure that all ballparks and updated and maintained correctly. But human errors or issues with data sources are always a possibility.

Historical ballpark data in OOTP has been pretty extensively researched and was based on available sources at the time. It's always possible that some information was incomplete and some educated guesses were made. Some data at the time might not have been 100% accurate.

LansdowneSt · 11-09-2023, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clamel

Then not sure how much these dimension play in at all when playing. Perhaps it's all the ballpark factors that decide the outcome of long balls into the outfield.

For gameplay, it's all ballpark factors but it is nice having the cosmetic stuff correct too.

eriqjaffe · 11-13-2023, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clamel

So my question is if someone know a very special website with crazy details info on those numbers.

No, such a thing does not exist unfortunately.

itsmb8 · 11-14-2023, 02:50 AM

Im actually working on updating all MiLB park dimensions and park factors for my save using PSUColonel's base. Wall heights are mainly using whats set by eriqjaffe with some estimated adjustments based on pictures, while dimensions are completely based on measurements using Google Earth.

clamel · 11-17-2023, 04:37 PM

Thanks for all this info.
Yes I checked Wiki of course, but all I find is those strict LF,CF.RF but we do have some measurement between those numbers.

Understand the factors are the numbers used when playing, the visual thing is just cosmetic.
So it should be of no importance whatever numbers show up in ballpark dimensions then. I'm good with that.

So PSUColonel setup in OOTp24 got the best factors then ?
I'm sure all MLB numbers over the years are correct, but it's the MiLB ballparks that might be checked.

Having minor league teams in some of those leagues can really be tough on upcoming youngsters. Some leagues are hitter friendly, some are for the pitchers. Those things play in I think when you play.

The basic thing is when you bring up a player that looked very good in the present level and then he looks to crash when coming up to next level. It might not be him at all but that league is a killer on pitchers or hitters.

11-09-2023, 01:18 PM	#1
clamel All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Across the Pond Posts: 1,042	Detailed dimensions MiLB parks This might be too much to ask, BUT checking up on many great 3d models made I now and then find some dimensions and wall heights to be a little wrong, when one checking up on available info on those ballparks. So my question is if someone know a very special website with crazy details info on those numbers. Often one find Left,Center,Right, but not Left center/Right center, which are in this game. The more details the happier I will be. There got to be a super detailed website somewhere out there. One example is Sacrmaneot River Cats, Sutter Health Park In game it's 430 feet to center field, but on all info I can find it's actually only 403 feet. Changing that number and one need to figure out LCF and RCF which must be shorter than sat by OOTP. The park is created by the great eriqjaffe, but clearly he did not alter the dimensions that came with the game. Then not sure how much these dimension play in at all when playing. Perhaps it's all the ballpark factors that decide the outcome of long balls into the outfield.

11-14-2023, 02:50 AM	#6
itsmb8 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,341	Im actually working on updating all MiLB park dimensions and park factors for my save using PSUColonel's base. Wall heights are mainly using whats set by eriqjaffe with some estimated adjustments based on pictures, while dimensions are completely based on measurements using Google Earth. __________________ Check out my Graphic Mods! Full MLB/MiLB Uniform Project (2021+) Thread \| Dropbox MLB Ballpark Ads My uniform templates!

11-09-2023, 01:54 PM	#2
micropterus58 All Star Starter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,243	Wikipedia may have some info. Websites for the teams may be a good source. I have never seem a site with MiLB park info like there are for MLB parks. Here's Sacramento. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutter_Health_Park https://www.milb.com/

11-09-2023, 06:43 PM	#3
Charlie Hough Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,644	I suspect that the 430 feet for center field was a transposition typo in the data, since the real dimension is supposedly 403. More recent ballparks are a matter of continual updates, and I think the OOTP community has played a big part in trying to help make sure that all ballparks and updated and maintained correctly. But human errors or issues with data sources are always a possibility. Historical ballpark data in OOTP has been pretty extensively researched and was based on available sources at the time. It's always possible that some information was incomplete and some educated guesses were made. Some data at the time might not have been 100% accurate.

11-17-2023, 04:37 PM	#7
clamel All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Across the Pond Posts: 1,042	Thanks for all this info. Yes I checked Wiki of course, but all I find is those strict LF,CF.RF but we do have some measurement between those numbers. Understand the factors are the numbers used when playing, the visual thing is just cosmetic. So it should be of no importance whatever numbers show up in ballpark dimensions then. I'm good with that. So PSUColonel setup in OOTp24 got the best factors then ? I'm sure all MLB numbers over the years are correct, but it's the MiLB ballparks that might be checked. Having minor league teams in some of those leagues can really be tough on upcoming youngsters. Some leagues are hitter friendly, some are for the pitchers. Those things play in I think when you play. The basic thing is when you bring up a player that looked very good in the present level and then he looks to crash when coming up to next level. It might not be him at all but that league is a killer on pitchers or hitters.