Historical Simulation (Pitchers Development)

[Daniel_09]

Good morning, Lukas, a few days ago I think I read you about a bug that affects the historical simulations with development on in the Pitcher ratings (it seems to make them go down every year).

Are you still working on this and is there any tentative date for the new beta patch?

[Lukas Berger]

No current date for the patch.

The historical pitchers, can you link me to that? This shouldn't be any different than in regular play if you have development turned on.

[Daniel_09]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

No current date for the patch.

The historical pitchers, can you link me to that? This shouldn't be any different than in regular play if you have development turned on.

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=354047

I think I explained myself wrong, that in some modes of historical simulations (with development on, as I play it) there are historical pitchers that their potential ratings are imported very low.

Which makes pitchers in historical drafts undervalued.

[Daniel_09]

and taking advantage of your valuable minutes, if some changes are made in this aspect, it is necessary to create a new game, I mean the import of ratings of other players in new drafts, as previously imported players should have this problem before the fix.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by Daniel_09

I think I explained myself wrong, that in some modes of historical simulations (with development on, as I play it) there are historical pitchers that their potential ratings are imported very low.

Which makes pitchers in historical drafts undervalued.

Yes, we're looking at this.

[Daniel_09]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Yes, we're looking at this.

Thanks Lukas

[sprague]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Yes, we're looking at this.

Lukas that may have been fixed in the last patch. I am noticing that the pitcher potential values look much like they should now.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by sprague

Lukas that may have been fixed in the last patch. I am noticing that the pitcher potential values look much like they should now.

Ok, good to hear. It may indeed have been. Sometimes stuff doesn't get into the release notes, and it can be easy to lose track.

[Daniel_09]

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Ok, good to hear. It may indeed have been. Sometimes stuff doesn't get into the release notes, and it can be easy to lose track.

Ok if so, good thing it was fixed in the patch, I have not gotten to see these values because I have not advanced enough, just revealed the draft pool (the players do not appear) and I cannot see the players since I changed the date of the draft different from the default.

[webrian]

Historical pitchers MUST be addressed.

Now, admittedly, I play a lot of Historical Exhibition. Teams from different years and even different eras play each other. But something is definitely not right with the pitching.

Example: In a recent 5-game replay between the 1992 Blue Jays and the 1986 Astros, the Blue Jays' rotation struck out only 6 (*six*) Astros batters, while walking 26. I should add that the Astros LOST the series, despite their amazing walk-to-strikeout ratio. The Blue Jays drew 15 walks, and struck out 26 times.

Astros RHP Mike Scott had a dazzling 1986 Cy Young season. Yet his ratings were barely above average: Stuff 11, Movement 14, Control 12 -- while playing in 1992 settings! 1992 was arguably an even bigger "pitcher's year" than 1986. He had an 8.18 ERA in 11 innings pitched against the 1992 Blue Jays. No, it's not impossible — pitchers can have slumps against good teams — but this is a trend, not an outlier.

In a 5-game series between the 1997 Mariners and the 1992 Blue Jays — again, played in 1992 settings — the Mariners struck out only 18 times, and walked 24 times.

In another series, St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Bob Gibson (1967), had ratings of: Stuff 7, Movement 14, Control 14 while pitching in 1976 settings against the 1976 Reds. Phillies LHP Steve Carlton, from 1977, had similar ratings (7-14-14) pitching against the 1965 Twins in a 1965 setting. We're talking about Hall of Fame pitchers in their prime! Why are their ratings so .... middling? Indeed, they pitched down to those ratings every time.

It just does not feel right, okay? I've played tons of OOTP since 2012, and these pitcher ratings and performances feel WAY off base.

I am not an engineer or a programmer. But it does not take one to know that these ratings are wildly inaccurate.

[pstrickert]

Replied to your other post.