What determines GIDPs?

Humboldt KA · 05-09-2024, 06:13 AM

I have a (fictional) player who hit .392, .356, and .412 his first 3 years, .340 this year (ain't the 1920s great?). Average or less GIDPs till now, but this year 9% of ABs, higher than I have seen for anyone before (the next 3 worst this year--who were the worst offenders in the past--are at 3%-4%).

I don't think it can be changes in opponent pitching or defense b/c GIDPs by the rest of the team have not increased; I think they are down a little.

His GIDPs are practically all to 2B, while his other GOs are mostly to SS or P (RH with Normal GB distribution).

BB type GB, gap power above average, HR power average, speed 33. None of these have changed.

The guy who most often hits ahead of him has 44 speed; that too has been true before much or maybe most of the time.

What am I missing?

Leo_The_Lip · 05-10-2024, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Humboldt KA

I have a (fictional) player who hit .392, .356, and .412 his first 3 years, .340 this year (ain't the 1920s great?). Average or less GIDPs till now, but this year 9% of ABs, higher than I have seen for anyone before (the next 3 worst this year--who were the worst offenders in the past--are at 3%-4%).

I don't think it can be changes in opponent pitching or defense b/c GIDPs by the rest of the team have not increased; I think they are down a little.

His GIDPs are practically all to 2B, while his other GOs are mostly to SS or P (RH with Normal GB distribution).

BB type GB, gap power above average, HR power average, speed 33. None of these have changed.

The guy who most often hits ahead of him has 44 speed; that too has been true before much or maybe most of the time.

What am I missing?

What is his SPEED rating? Did that drop recently?

Per the Manual, SPEED controls the chance of grounding into a DP. So check that.

Humboldt KA · 05-10-2024, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo_The_Lip

What is his SPEED rating? Did that drop recently?

Per the Manual, SPEED controls the chance of grounding into a DP. So check that.

Speed 33, unchanged from middle of last year or from this winter (I routinely order reports on all my players every 1/1 and 7/1).

The three players who are roughly tied for next worst have speed 82, 44, and 8. "Randy Stone" and the guy with 44 usually hit #s 2 and 3, not always in the same order, so the guys Stone is most often forcing are that guy and, especially, the leadoff hitter, speed 113. So speed probably doesn't matter to getting forced.

There has to be another factor besides speed. The question is: what?

Brad K · 05-11-2024, 08:48 PM

You talk percentages but have you completed the season? What are the raw numbers?

Brad K · 05-14-2024, 03:08 PM

The greatest contributor to hitting into a double play is coming to bat with a runner on first base.

OutS|der · 05-20-2024, 03:49 PM

Just having a really bad year or this is the games way of telling you TCR is going to hit him hard at the end of the year.

League total modifier might also be the cause, could just be a bad year for it and your player is the poster child for it

05-09-2024, 06:13 AM	#1
Humboldt KA Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2024 Posts: 71	What determines GIDPs? I have a (fictional) player who hit .392, .356, and .412 his first 3 years, .340 this year (ain't the 1920s great?). Average or less GIDPs till now, but this year 9% of ABs, higher than I have seen for anyone before (the next 3 worst this year--who were the worst offenders in the past--are at 3%-4%). I don't think it can be changes in opponent pitching or defense b/c GIDPs by the rest of the team have not increased; I think they are down a little. His GIDPs are practically all to 2B, while his other GOs are mostly to SS or P (RH with Normal GB distribution). BB type GB, gap power above average, HR power average, speed 33. None of these have changed. The guy who most often hits ahead of him has 44 speed; that too has been true before much or maybe most of the time. What am I missing?

05-11-2024, 08:48 PM	#4
Brad K Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2016 Location: St Petersburg Florida USA Posts: 6,312	You talk percentages but have you completed the season? What are the raw numbers? __________________ Pirates Play Moneyball 1951 to 2008 46,000 views and counting!... Wow, up to 47,000, thank you. Wow, I hadn't checked for weeks. Oct 9 2024 its 79,561. Why do people use different players, different lineups, different strategy, development, talent change randomness, and the development lab, but judge the game on whether it produces historical statistics?

05-14-2024, 03:08 PM	#5
Brad K Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2016 Location: St Petersburg Florida USA Posts: 6,312	The greatest contributor to hitting into a double play is coming to bat with a runner on first base. __________________ Pirates Play Moneyball 1951 to 2008 46,000 views and counting!... Wow, up to 47,000, thank you. Wow, I hadn't checked for weeks. Oct 9 2024 its 79,561. Why do people use different players, different lineups, different strategy, development, talent change randomness, and the development lab, but judge the game on whether it produces historical statistics?

05-20-2024, 03:49 PM	#6
OutS\|der Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: In A Van Down By The River Posts: 2,575 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Just having a really bad year or this is the games way of telling you TCR is going to hit him hard at the end of the year. League total modifier might also be the cause, could just be a bad year for it and your player is the poster child for it