Am I the only one who hates 101+ cards?

[CardSharx]

When this year's version of the game first came out, I noticed that "good" level 100 cards were being released a lot earlier in the year than in previous years. The recent release of cards at level 101 and now 102 shed a little more light into the situation, but it seems intuitively wrong. Having cards above the 100 "ceiling" that we all have come to expect feels broken to me. Any one else?

[Kushiel]

I drew a Card that was #1 of 50 this morning so I am not griping this week.

[ubernoob]

Originally Posted by CardSharx

When this year's version of the game first came out, I noticed that "good" level 100 cards were being released a lot earlier in the year than in previous years. The recent release of cards at level 101 and now 102 shed a little more light into the situation, but it seems intuitively wrong. Having cards above the 100 "ceiling" that we all have come to expect feels broken to me. Any one else?

Yes. It's very stupid.


On a scale of 40-100 you release cards that are 102. Pretty soon we'll be drawing cards of 110 in OOTP 27 if anyone still plays it then.


How about actually just... using the scale you made to begin with?

[dishnet34]

What's wrong with a little bit of change? Perfect is now a level rather than a fixed amount this year. I personally think it shows a little bit of delineation between Perfect-level cards from earlier in the cycle to Perfect-level cards as we continue through the cycle. I don't know how high we're going to go, but I think it's a decent change.

[steamrollers]

Most people think it is a horrible idea. Of course you will get certain people toeing the company line because they have to try to spin things in the companies favor. The fact of the matter is OOTP jumps the shark at some point every year and this year was just way way earlier than normal. It's been a rough year for the team with several head scratching moves and further alienating the little guy. That isn't even debatable. The good thing is the core game is still outstanding, it's just PT kind of took a dump this year. It's a learning experience and there will likely be some solid changes next year to try to salvage the debacle of 25.

[dishnet34]

It's further alienating the little guy to introduce new packable cards that are good? OK. We'll agree to disagree on that.

[PunishedF2P]

Originally Posted by Kushiel

I drew a Card that was #1 of 50 this morning so I am not griping this week.

I'm assuming you mean Honus Wagner? If so, you can't gripe the rest of the year, lol. That's a 1.5 million pp pull! Congrats on the great pack.

[ubernoob]

Originally Posted by dishnet34

What's wrong with a little bit of change? Perfect is now a level rather than a fixed amount this year. I personally think it shows a little bit of delineation between Perfect-level cards from earlier in the cycle to Perfect-level cards as we continue through the cycle. I don't know how high we're going to go, but I think it's a decent change.

It looks like cards can't be weighted out properly from the start.


We all know cards get better as the year goes on, now from the outside it looks like whale chasing starts early and doesn't stop. Cards from the early batches of drops match later year drops in the previous years. Add in the bonus whale chasing of combinators added to the game in the same year and it all seems a bit amateur mobile game-y chasing dollars in lieu of any semblance of balance.

[daves]

In order to keep the game from going stale new ideas need to surface. By the end of the PT25 cycle we could see 111 cards or higher. I am on the fence on whether I like 101 cards, but I believe it is an attempt to add more excitement.

New tournament format look fun. Combinators and team chemistry I hope are one and done.


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[HRBaker]

PT25 = "move the goalposts"

I've mentioned it for years... talent is released too fast. This year anything under 95 (with few exceptions) became meaningless by the All Star break, so there's no place to go but "up". It would be so simple (and make so much more sense) if Diamonds and Perfects were scarce until the All Star game - THEN start releasing the best cards. Gold and Silver level cards would demand a premium the first half of the season keeping lower rated cards relevant for a longer period of time.

But alas, it's easier to move the goalposts.

[Hwilensky]

Originally Posted by ubernoob

Yes. It's very stupid.


On a scale of 40-100 you release cards that are 102. Pretty soon we'll be drawing cards of 110 in OOTP 27 if anyone still plays it then.


How about actually just... using the scale you made to begin with?

100% agree!! Instead of releasing a Perfect Corey Kluber early in the cycle, maybe make it a diamond 95, and you work your way up to a perfect Cy Young. This is 101,102 rated cards are just nonsense.

[Kushiel]

Originally Posted by PunishedF2P

I'm assuming you mean Honus Wagner? If so, you can't gripe the rest of the year, lol. That's a 1.5 million pp pull! Congrats on the great pack.

That's the one!

[bailey]

Originally Posted by Kushiel

That's the one!

Except last year's Honus Wagner sold for 6 million...
Congratulations on the pull, nevertheless.

I polished off most of the missions yesterday and got 4 perfect packs.
3 lives, and 1 duplicate Scherzer that I'll be lucky to sell for half what I paid for it.

Back on topic: A few novelty 101's might have been OK, but now the bar is moved to 101. At the end of the season, you could enjoy the illusion that you had a "perfect team" with all 100's, but not anymore. This is the financialization of the perfect card and not just "a little bit of change".

What's next? A Super Perfect Historical pack with a guaranteed 101?

[Kushiel]

Originally Posted by bailey

Except last year's Honus Wagner sold for 6 million...
Congratulations on the pull, nevertheless.

I polished off most of the missions yesterday and got 4 perfect packs.
3 lives, and 1 duplicate Scherzer that I'll be lucky to sell for half what I paid for it.

Back on topic: A few novelty 101's might have been OK, but now the bar is moved to 101. At the end of the season, you could enjoy the illusion that you had a "perfect team" with all 100's, but not anymore. This is the financialization of the perfect card and not just "a little bit of change".

What's next? A Super Perfect Historical pack with a guaranteed 101?

No matter the sale value, He is my SS at this time.

I agree on the financialization 100% and no need for 101/102s except to line pockets. But I am not griping this week. I can't stop the trend so I am enjoying some brief luck with what they put in front of us.

[bailey]

Originally Posted by Kushiel

But I am not griping this week.

They gave the Pawsox guy a week off, so you deserve a week off, too.
And you get to keep your prize, too! Synchronicity!

[stan-theman]

Great pull i probably would have had the Big One if i got that card...Enjoy

[PunishedF2P]

Originally Posted by bailey

I polished off most of the missions yesterday and got 4 perfect packs.
3 lives, and 1 duplicate Scherzer that I'll be lucky to sell for half what I paid for it.

Back on topic: A few novelty 101's might have been OK, but now the bar is moved to 101.

I think we both just finished up those same missions, as I got 4 perfect packs as well over the last couple days. I was a bit luckier: 3 live pulls, but then a Blake Treinen (which I just bought to complete the mission set!) that I sold for 180K.

And I agree with this: I don't mind the 101s at all really, as a separator for the elite perfect cards. However, I do not care for extending it more to 102+

[Ripper44]

Agreed. The game is losing its' luster and has become a cash grab. Card combinator and PT Live which were nice ideas are broken.

[Fabtron7]

Perfect is no longer a number it's a tier... Just like all the other tiers.

It'll be 100 to 109 ranger before the year is over, put it on the board. And it was a loooooong time coming. Last year Luke Appling would be the same rating as Honus Wagner and that quite frankly is just bonkers.

[HRBaker]

Originally Posted by Fabtron7

Perfect is no longer a number it's a tier... Just like all the other tiers.

It'll be 100 to 109 ranger before the year is over, put it on the board. And it was a loooooong time coming. Last year Luke Appling would be the same rating as Honus Wagner and that quite frankly is just bonkers.

Look, I know we don't agree on a lot of stuff, but how can we say on one hand the OVRs don't mean anything because some Diamonds are better than Perfects and some Golds are better than Diamonds.... and then micro-slice Perfects into 10 new values? Are 109s "always" better than 100s, or does that old rule not apply here.

The reality is they released talent too fast. No one can deny that. So, here we are in August (5 months in) and no place to go other than to move the goal posts.

What really happening here is we now have SEVEN levels. Iron, Bronze, Silver, Gold, Diamond, Perfect, and "Supermen" because there was no room to add anything better than they had already done in 5 months.

It's one thing to move the Goal Posts between versions; but moving them within a version is just wrong.