AHL/ECHL Affiliation Not Present in Opening Day Rosters

Iceman90 · 10-26-2024, 09:49 PM

Using the Opening Day quickstart, I notice that AHL teams aren't set to have the appropriate ECHL teams as their farm teams. The NHL teams are set correctly.

This makes it so AHL contracted players can't be sent to the ECHL. Is this a bug/oversight, or is there a reason for this?

Iceman90 · 10-26-2024, 11:17 PM

Sorry, this should probably be moved to the bug forum.

Adam B · 10-26-2024, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman90

Using the Opening Day quickstart, I notice that AHL teams aren't set to have the appropriate ECHL teams as their farm teams. The NHL teams are set correctly.

This makes it so AHL contracted players can't be sent to the ECHL. Is this a bug/oversight, or is there a reason for this?

I would have to check, but I don't think it's a bug. I believe it was done because people playing the ECHL were getting too many players stolen/dumped from/on their rosters.

You can still send someone to a reserve list though, can you not?

Savoie45 · 10-27-2024, 12:31 AM

Yeah, the ECHL affiliates are listed under the NHL team, but with the AHL. I'm fine with this as long as the NHL teams are still affiliated with them.

JeffR · 10-27-2024, 10:03 AM

It's a workaround - AHL teams tend to sign more players than they do in real life (aside from independent teams), which can make the experience of managing an ECHL team really unpleasant when they send them all down because their parent has filled their roster with their own players. Having the SemiPro team or reserve list as the AHL affiliate lets them keep those guys as a "taxi squad" rather than overwhelming the ECHL with them.

Iceman90 · 10-27-2024, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffR

It's a workaround - AHL teams tend to sign more players than they do in real life (aside from independent teams), which can make the experience of managing an ECHL team really unpleasant when they send them all down because their parent has filled their roster with their own players. Having the SemiPro team or reserve list as the AHL affiliate lets them keep those guys as a "taxi squad" rather than overwhelming the ECHL with them.

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Originally Posted by Adam B

I would have to check, but I don't think it's a bug. I believe it was done because people playing the ECHL were getting too many players stolen/dumped from/on their rosters.

You can still send someone to a reserve list though, can you not?

The workaround makes sense when explained. Do guys on these semi pro squads/taxi squads still have the chance to develop at the same rate? The AHL is a developmental league after all.

Would it make more sense for the ECHL team to be the one with a taxi squad, so that they can use that to put players they've signed if the AHL players sent are better?

One mechanic I've always liked in EHM was the ability to loan out players, so if you don't want to dump them all on one ECHL team, you can loan guys out to multiple different teams.

Torgonius · 10-29-2024, 02:02 PM

OK. Since this is 'working as intended', is there a way for me as a player to permanently fix it so I don't have to do the affiliations every single save?

Iceman90 · 10-29-2024, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Torgonius

OK. Since this is 'working as intended', is there a way for me as a player to permanently fix it so I don't have to do the affiliations every single save?

Load a save, fix the affiliations, save it as a Quick Start game.

Adam B · 10-29-2024, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman90

The workaround makes sense when explained. Do guys on these semi pro squads/taxi squads still have the chance to develop at the same rate? The AHL is a developmental league after all.

Would it make more sense for the ECHL team to be the one with a taxi squad, so that they can use that to put players they've signed if the AHL players sent are better?

One mechanic I've always liked in EHM was the ability to loan out players, so if you don't want to dump them all on one ECHL team, you can loan guys out to multiple different teams.

Taxi Squad/Reserve List players still develop like they are playing games, they just don't generate stats for you to look at.

While it's not a perfect solution, it does work. If you wanted to "loan" someone - so long as you're not in Challenge Mode, you could edit someone to a team.

Colorado · 10-30-2024, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman90

Would it make more sense for the ECHL team to be the one with a taxi squad, so that they can use that to put players they've signed if the AHL players sent are better?

This does sound more logical. Could this be considered Jeff?

Iceman90 · 10-30-2024, 07:30 PM

While not realistic, I've setup a new game so all 5 North American pro/semi pro leagues are affiliated.

NHL>AHL>ECHL>SPHL>FHL>Reserve list

The SPHL and FHL don't have as many teams as the ECHL, so the affiliations are split. This gives the talented players more levels to play, and the reserve list is for the guys who really aren't good enough for any of those leagues.

I am curious how this shakes out talent wise.

Telemachus · 04-05-2025, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman90

While not realistic, I've setup a new game so all 5 North American pro/semi pro leagues are affiliated.

NHL>AHL>ECHL>SPHL>FHL>Reserve list

The SPHL and FHL don't have as many teams as the ECHL, so the affiliations are split. This gives the talented players more levels to play, and the reserve list is for the guys who really aren't good enough for any of those leagues.

I am curious how this shakes out talent wise.

Have you tried that out? I've thought about doing that myself. Does it work?

10-26-2024, 09:49 PM	#1
Iceman90 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 175	AHL/ECHL Affiliation Not Present in Opening Day Rosters Using the Opening Day quickstart, I notice that AHL teams aren't set to have the appropriate ECHL teams as their farm teams. The NHL teams are set correctly. This makes it so AHL contracted players can't be sent to the ECHL. Is this a bug/oversight, or is there a reason for this?

10-29-2024, 02:02 PM	#7
Torgonius All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 830	OK. Since this is 'working as intended', is there a way for me as a player to permanently fix it so I don't have to do the affiliations every single save? __________________ When you let your 10 year old name the team

10-26-2024, 11:17 PM	#2
Iceman90 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 175	Sorry, this should probably be moved to the bug forum.

10-27-2024, 12:31 AM	#4
Savoie45 All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Oregon Posts: 675	Yeah, the ECHL affiliates are listed under the NHL team, but with the AHL. I'm fine with this as long as the NHL teams are still affiliated with them.

10-27-2024, 10:03 AM	#5
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,227	It's a workaround - AHL teams tend to sign more players than they do in real life (aside from independent teams), which can make the experience of managing an ECHL team really unpleasant when they send them all down because their parent has filled their roster with their own players. Having the SemiPro team or reserve list as the AHL affiliate lets them keep those guys as a "taxi squad" rather than overwhelming the ECHL with them.

10-30-2024, 07:30 PM	#11
Iceman90 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 175	While not realistic, I've setup a new game so all 5 North American pro/semi pro leagues are affiliated. NHL>AHL>ECHL>SPHL>FHL>Reserve list The SPHL and FHL don't have as many teams as the ECHL, so the affiliations are split. This gives the talented players more levels to play, and the reserve list is for the guys who really aren't good enough for any of those leagues. I am curious how this shakes out talent wise.