Historical Game can't start

Dixon215 · 10-28-2024, 08:26 AM

I tried to start an historical season, with new rosters, starting in 1965, as the Chicago Blackhawks. After I set the league up, I can't get to the initial draft because a message comes up saying that the AHL has an invalid playoff format. I am unable, or not sure how, to make any changes to the AHL format. I would appreciate any help. Thanks

JeffR · 10-28-2024, 08:36 AM

I'm not sure why that message is coming up, it normally occurs if there's a compatibility problem between the league's divisional setup and the playoff system, but there shouldn't be one for the way the AHL is set up in 1965, and I don't get it when I try a 1965 start with the default options. What are the exact settings you're starting with?

The playoff format can only be changed on July 1 in commissioner mode, if t'll let you choose a different playoff system n July 1, so you would need to start the with the July 1 start option (on the Set Up Your Manager screen in the initial setup) and then go to the AHL's Edit screen, Rules section, to change the playoff system to something else.

Dixon215 · 10-28-2024, 11:03 AM

I was able to get to the AHL playoff editing section in commissioner mode on July 1, and tried all of the possible playoff options, but each time I hit Continue, it won't advance the date and still says that the AHL has an invalid playoff format. I notice that each time I return to the AHL edit screen, the playoff format line is blank, and doesn't reflect what I had just chosen.

Dixon215 · 10-28-2024, 12:53 PM

Click New Historical Game
start year 1965
following boxes are checked:
Historical Expansion Drafts
Draft Rookies/Generate Rookies at age 16
Set initial rosters by draft
Random Debut
Iron Curtain rule on
also: player development=FHM development and retirement engine
Name = Chicago 1965
On Manager Page: start employed GM & Head Coach Chicago Blackhawks
check Start on July 1
no change on manager setup page
under manager options, check commissioner mode

All other settings are default

Dixon215 · 10-28-2024, 02:08 PM

I also tried the same settings for the starting year 1969 and got the same result.

Dixon215 · 10-28-2024, 02:32 PM

I tried the same setup in FHM 10. It worked in FHM 10, but not FHM 11.

Ahmat · 10-30-2024, 01:01 AM

Play with Quebec and got same message with 1983 start 1.7.1984.

JeffR · 10-30-2024, 08:39 PM

We're investigating the AHL playoff problem. For now, you can get around it by turning the AHL playoffs entirely (the option to do that in their playoff selection saves properly, when for some reason the others may not.)

mattza · 10-31-2024, 10:37 AM

I know you guys are investigating this now, just chiming in to say I'm also seeing this in Historical Challenge(the Bobby Orr one, I haven't tried any others), in case that needs a separate look

I got through the first year okay, but I can't progress past July 1st, 1967

Ahmat · 11-03-2024, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffR

We're investigating the AHL playoff problem. For now, you can get around it by turning the AHL playoffs entirely (the option to do that in their playoff selection saves properly, when for some reason the others may not.)

I was able to continue, but the same problem came up next year 1.7.1985
Also AHL season 1984-85 ended after regular season, no playoffs were generated.

beatle · 11-04-2024, 08:01 PM

Just finished the 1967 season. Tried to move from 7/1 and I get The AHL has an invalid playoff format message. Can't move past that. I did a whole draft and do not want to start all over again! I don't see a place where you can turn the AHL Playoffs off. There are the NHL playoffs, but I don't see the AHL playoff format under rules or info. So how do you turn AHL playoffs off?

JeffR · 11-05-2024, 07:22 AM

They can be turned off by editing the league rules. But the AHL playoffs problem will be fixed in the next update, which is coming very soon.

beatle · 11-05-2024, 09:12 PM

Jeff, you keep saying that :"They can be turned off by editing the league rules". However, There are only NHL playoff rule changes that I see under rule changes. There are no AHL buttons or anything else that you can turn off.
See attached file.

JeffR · 11-07-2024, 06:37 AM

That says "Stanley Cup Playoffs", so you appear to be on the NHL edit screen. Switch to the AHL, then click on "Type" and it'll give you other options. But the problem should be fixed after the update, so you'll no longer need to do that.

10-28-2024, 08:26 AM	#1
Dixon215 Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2024 Posts: 6	Historical Game can't start I tried to start an historical season, with new rosters, starting in 1965, as the Chicago Blackhawks. After I set the league up, I can't get to the initial draft because a message comes up saying that the AHL has an invalid playoff format. I am unable, or not sure how, to make any changes to the AHL format. I would appreciate any help. Thanks

10-28-2024, 11:03 AM	#3
Dixon215 Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2024 Posts: 6	Still can't get it to work I was able to get to the AHL playoff editing section in commissioner mode on July 1, and tried all of the possible playoff options, but each time I hit Continue, it won't advance the date and still says that the AHL has an invalid playoff format. I notice that each time I return to the AHL edit screen, the playoff format line is blank, and doesn't reflect what I had just chosen.

10-28-2024, 12:53 PM	#4
Dixon215 Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2024 Posts: 6	settings used for historical game Click New Historical Game start year 1965 following boxes are checked: Historical Expansion Drafts Draft Rookies/Generate Rookies at age 16 Set initial rosters by draft Random Debut Iron Curtain rule on also: player development=FHM development and retirement engine Name = Chicago 1965 On Manager Page: start employed GM & Head Coach Chicago Blackhawks check Start on July 1 no change on manager setup page under manager options, check commissioner mode All other settings are default

11-04-2024, 08:01 PM	#11
beatle All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 607	Just finished the 1967 season. Tried to move from 7/1 and I get The AHL has an invalid playoff format message. Can't move past that. I did a whole draft and do not want to start all over again! I don't see a place where you can turn the AHL Playoffs off. There are the NHL playoffs, but I don't see the AHL playoff format under rules or info. So how do you turn AHL playoffs off? __________________ If you hang with the buzzards, you eat the dead mule! Beatle

11-05-2024, 09:12 PM	#13
beatle All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 607	Jeff, you keep saying that :"They can be turned off by editing the league rules". However, There are only NHL playoff rule changes that I see under rule changes. There are no AHL buttons or anything else that you can turn off. See attached file. Attached Images __________________ If you hang with the buzzards, you eat the dead mule! Beatle

10-28-2024, 08:36 AM	#2
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,243	I'm not sure why that message is coming up, it normally occurs if there's a compatibility problem between the league's divisional setup and the playoff system, but there shouldn't be one for the way the AHL is set up in 1965, and I don't get it when I try a 1965 start with the default options. What are the exact settings you're starting with? The playoff format can only be changed on July 1 in commissioner mode, if t'll let you choose a different playoff system n July 1, so you would need to start the with the July 1 start option (on the Set Up Your Manager screen in the initial setup) and then go to the AHL's Edit screen, Rules section, to change the playoff system to something else.

10-28-2024, 02:08 PM	#5
Dixon215 Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2024 Posts: 6	I also tried the same settings for the starting year 1969 and got the same result.

10-28-2024, 02:32 PM	#6
Dixon215 Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2024 Posts: 6	I tried the same setup in FHM 10. It worked in FHM 10, but not FHM 11.

10-30-2024, 01:01 AM	#7
Ahmat Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2024 Posts: 23	Play with Quebec and got same message with 1983 start 1.7.1984.

10-30-2024, 08:39 PM	#8
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,243	We're investigating the AHL playoff problem. For now, you can get around it by turning the AHL playoffs entirely (the option to do that in their playoff selection saves properly, when for some reason the others may not.)

10-31-2024, 10:37 AM	#9
mattza Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2024 Posts: 2	I know you guys are investigating this now, just chiming in to say I'm also seeing this in Historical Challenge(the Bobby Orr one, I haven't tried any others), in case that needs a separate look I got through the first year okay, but I can't progress past July 1st, 1967

11-05-2024, 07:22 AM	#12
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,243	They can be turned off by editing the league rules. But the AHL playoffs problem will be fixed in the next update, which is coming very soon.

11-07-2024, 06:37 AM	#14
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,243	That says "Stanley Cup Playoffs", so you appear to be on the NHL edit screen. Switch to the AHL, then click on "Type" and it'll give you other options. But the problem should be fixed after the update, so you'll no longer need to do that.