How Much do you Account for the Green Arrows?

[Skevich]

I have two players (20 and 21 years old) that are crushing it in Single A, but the green arrows want me to keep promoting them from single A all the way to AAA - totally skipping high A and AA! should the arrows be ignored, or paid attention to?

[MathBandit]

I don't even look at them at all. I make all promotion decisions (for the relatively small number of prospects that I even handle myself) from their profile page, where there obviously are no arrows. I'd say my criteria is about 35% Relative Ratings, 35% performance, 20% depth charts, and 10% ML Potential.

[Larryk007]

I try to follow the AI suggestions but the skipping of league levels I do not. Some of the OOTP videos suggest following the green arrows, leaving me to think there is some player game-enhancement to following their suggestion. This may be truer for ignoring the down red arrows.

[Pelican]

I only use them as hints to look more closely at a player and weigh whether promotion would be a good thing. But I base that decision on merits, not the arrows. If there is still a significant gap between Potential and Current ratings, I would never jump a minor league level, no matter how well the player is performing. And I hesitate to promote during the season, unless I'm convinced I made the wrong call coming out of Spring Training. I suspect that the code is written such that "patience is a virtue" with young players. I have a young Lou Gehrig as the #1 prospect in 1922; but he is going up one level to AAA and not MLB, despite solid hitting (but little power yet) at AA. Maybe a late-season promotion, if he performs well and shows some slugging ability. I have experienced the dreaded pattern of a promotion too soon, lousy MLB stats, back to AAA, not performing as well there either, i.e. confidence shot. It happens IRL and in OOTP too.

[Cod]

Originally Posted by Pelican

I only use them as hints to look more closely at a player and weigh whether promotion would be a good thing. But I base that decision on merits, not the arrows.

This is how I approach them as well. I have the prospects I care about and follow shortlisted across various shortlists. If I see a green arrow next to a player not on a list, I immediately take a deeper look into their ratings, numbers, etc. The player then ends up on a list or ignored.

[Skevich]

Originally Posted by MathBandit

I don't even look at them at all. I make all promotion decisions (for the relatively small number of prospects that I even handle myself) from their profile page, where there obviously are no arrows. I'd say my criteria is about 35% Relative Ratings, 35% performance, 20% depth charts, and 10% ML Potential.

Thank you for your feedback everyone. but what are "Relative Ratings" and how do I find/use them?

[MathBandit]

Originally Posted by Skevich

Thank you for your feedback everyone. but what are "Relative Ratings" and how do I find/use them?

Here's an example. This is a player I just drafted in a league I'm in, so I used the 'Ratings Relative to:' drop-down field near the top-right to check how my Scout thinks he'll fare relative to the various levels, to find one that will challenge him appropriately. In this case his batting ratings indicated he should be about average, maybe a tick above, in single-A so I started him there.

Note that this league doesn't use OVR/POT but if we did that would also be shown relative to this level.

(He also has a 200 wRC+ through 137 PAs in Single-A hitting .400/.467/.600 with 6 HRs so he might be due for a call up to my AA side in Hamilton. Though that's where the 20% depth chart comes in, since I already have a promising Catcher from *last* draft starting there, so this guy might stay in A-ball for now for playing time)

[Bobfather]

I hear James Gunn if giving them a TV show.

[koohead]

I will take a second look at the player and decide if he is on the fence to be promoted because of the green arrow. If I can remotely make the case, then yes I'll send him up. But like others have said I don't skip levels and I will keep a player at the next level for about a month before moving up again.

[eauhomme]

I have found them to be almost random at times. Seeing a guy hit .180 and have a green arrow up or .325 and a red one down makes me wonder.

I go to the Rosters and Transactions, look at the team in question, and set scouting relative to the next level. In other words, if I'm looking at my high-A team, I set scouting relative to AA. Then I look at the players who are current 4 and 5 stars and if they're performing well, I consider promoting them.