Gambo and T_Wil1 Photopack

[Chickazoola]

Cinemaodyssey and I did some research on it a while back and the roster matches with the 1884 team. Lots of notes on the club that year. The photo appeared in a 1912 paper and author had details wrong.

Yes, agree name listing is confusing. Clare is front row at least and might be able to use Johnny Bass to orient the rest of players. We have a photo of him I believe.

[cinemaodyssey]

Originally Posted by tnfoto

I've gone 'round and 'round with myself about Crowley over the years. I've kept him off the list because, while the Buchner cards are *generally* generic, their depictions actually bear a passing resemblance to the players listed on the card. Dan Brouthers looks passably like Dan Brouthers, Ned (or Ed, if you prefer) Willamson bears some resemblance to the player. The cartoon of Jennings, on the other hand, I don't believe bears any resemblance to the actual person (of course, we don't have a photo or studio wood cut, so that's just a guess).

Perhaps I should add some nuance to the list and re-add players like Crowley with a "need better" notation. There are a few others who similarly have no image I would consider a true likeness, either due to poor image quality (Alonzo Breitenstein or Walter Prince), low resolution (George Fletcher or Flip Lafferty), or poor likeness (until recently, Marty Honan--thanks, Cinemaodyssey!). Then there are others, like Denny Clare or Ed Halbriter, for whom we only have photos from a time long past their playing days.

I'm happy to make whatever adjustments may be most helpful as we try to locate the remaining missing players.

We have two reasonably good depictions of Walter Prince, one from the 1885 Haverhill team photo that I posted awhile back and the other from an 1888 London, ON newspaper which I have attached.
I've also found a playing-era image of Ed Halbriter (though not a great one) which shows him as a member of the 1883 Terre Haute team.

[UKBaseballfan]

Additional alternate images for each of these players are depicted below.

Prince on the left. significantly extracted from an 1884 Detroit team image and Ed Halbriter on the right.

[Patsy Tebeau]

deleted as i did not see that someone posted the clare pic earlier and the halbriter pic was posted at the same time that i did it

[Patsy Tebeau]

oop, he posted the Halbriter pic literally at the same time as me haha

[cinemaodyssey]

Unfortunately we are not certain that the player in that team photo is Halbriter. I've gone through that team photo numerous times with other photographic experts and can't come to a satisfactory conclusion as to what team this even is.

[Patsy Tebeau]

Here's a picture of him as an older man from the 11-Aug-1936 LA Times for comparison. He is said to have been on the minor league Indianapolis Blues. The player's shirt clearly says 'Blues' in that picture so I'm fairly certain that's where it came from and it's probably him. I couldn't swear to it but it seems highly likely. I must say the ear looks a bit different in the back and it's hard to do a comparison of the nose because its from the side in that pic but the head shape looks similar.

[Patsy Tebeau]

Another photo dump of a random player because why not. Every image I found of him.

[Patsy Tebeau]

One more

[Dto7]

More Sparks

[UKBaseballfan]

More Sparks including an upgrade on his 1902 Boston Americans image.

Sparks with Richmond in 1898, with Milwaukee in 1901, Boston 1902, Philadelphia in 1904 and 1908.

Will access to 1902 New York newspapers reveal an image from 1902 showing his stint with the Giants?

[Patsy Tebeau]

curious as to where the image on his br bullpen page comes from, I can't find it online.

[UKBaseballfan]

Originally Posted by Patsy Tebeau

curious as to where the image on his br bullpen page comes from, I can't find it online.

The image is extracted from the attached 1896 Providence team photo. Hodson is located on the bottom row, second from left.

[Patsy Tebeau]

Originally Posted by UKBaseballfan

The image is extracted from the attached 1896 Providence team photo. Hodson is located on the bottom row, second from left.

i meant this image which is on his br bullpen page. I was debating whether or not to replace it with the other one which is on his main BR page since I couldn't find a source for it.

[Cusick]

Originally Posted by Patsy Tebeau

i meant this image which is on his br bullpen page. I was debating whether or not to replace it with the other one which is on his main BR page since I couldn't find a source for it.

Looks to me like the image comes from an 1895 composite of the Boston NL team, which is strange because Hodson was with the team in 1894 rather than 1895. My source is David Nemec's book, The Great Encyclopedia of 19th Century Baseball, on page 563. The caption to the composite clearly identifies George Hodson as the player in exactly the same pose as the image you posted.

From newspaper research, it's evident that Hodson signed again with the Boston NL team in January, 1895. By May, 1895, he was a free agent. I don't know exactly when he was released. I suppose it's possible he could have appeared in an 1895 Boston team composite prior to his release.

[UKBaseballfan]

Can anyone shed any light on this apparent conundrum?

Two separate images have been colorized for a player by the name of Joe Connolly with the 1924 Red Sox. Although they have the same name they do appear to be different individuals.

The first player has been identified as Joe H. Connolly. A third image of Joe Connolly with Cleveland appears to match the second image of Joe Connolly. In the third, Cleveland, image the player is identified as Joe G. Connolly.

Neither of these 2 players appear to be Joe F. Connolly who played a few years earlier with the Boston Braves.

[rrb77]

1929-32 Red Sox

[UKBaseballfan]

Originally Posted by rrb77

1929-32 Red Sox

Thank you.

[infieldfly]

Originally Posted by UKBaseballfan

The image is extracted from the attached 1896 Providence team photo. Hodson is located on the bottom row, second from left.

Tweaked & upsized via Topaz

[UKBaseballfan]

Originally Posted by infieldfly

Tweaked & upsized via Topaz

Wow, that enhanced team photo opens up a whole new world in terms of enhancing vintage team photos from the 19th century!.