OOTP 26 Announcement - Page 3

jhcardinals · 02-12-2025, 01:46 PM

Will buy the game of course as usual, but adding more to a mechanic of the game that barely worked as intended in the first place as the main feature is pretty disappointing. The draft combine is a farce in real life and is just out of place. Somewhat excited about the pipeline, but concerned it’s just going to be a repackaged mock draft page. I suppose a roster update is better than a non-release like FM. No online league improvements, but I suppose I should just be happy it’s likely still supported. Apple improvements thirded. After Com2Us and the destructive *league from the country east of China* update, sim community isn’t really getting a better game from 5 years ago.

NYMike44 · 02-12-2025, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NYMike44

Not really sure if this belongs in this thread, but will there ever be more accuracy in historical in terms of a real coaching staff instead of just the real manager and fictional staff? And real owners as well? I know the data availability might be tough to get 100% accuracy, but on the FHM side of things that’s how it is

It’s just interesting to me that Franchise Hockey has more complete coaching staffs in historical along with the correct owners, while OOTPB does not have at least historical owners.

bbvern · 02-12-2025, 01:51 PM

I'm awaiting the Steam version for this year. It looks good.

OzzieFan · 02-12-2025, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NYMike44

It’s just interesting to me that Franchise Hockey has more complete coaching staffs in historical along with the correct owners, while OOTPB does not have at least historical owners.

Just give me coach histories at least.

Rain King · 02-12-2025, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NYMike44

It’s just interesting to me that Franchise Hockey has more complete coaching staffs in historical along with the correct owners, while OOTPB does not have at least historical owners.

Is there good/complete data somewhere on historical non-managerial coaches? How would you go about rating them? Would those ratings then need to have offsetting changes to player historical ratings for balance?

RevanFan · 02-12-2025, 02:17 PM

March 14th is my birthday, funny enough. And 10 days before it, the Chinese DLC for Age of Mythology releases and Daredevil: Born Again comes out. Gonna be a good couple weeks around my birthday haha. Excited for OOTP 26. Though there's still quite a few things I think the game is missing for it to be perfect in my mind, I'm looking forward to an expansion of player development.

Wish the ratings in the new ratings engine were not capped at 550, though. That was a disappointment for me from 25.

textilemonster · 02-12-2025, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain King

Is there good/complete data somewhere on historical non-managerial coaches? How would you go about rating them? Would those ratings then need to have offsetting changes to player historical ratings for balance?

I'd be fine with ratings being random, because then at least it means they're THERE and can be modded, etc.

vxm · 02-12-2025, 02:34 PM

Has anything been done to improve left/right splits?

r0nster · 02-12-2025, 03:21 PM

as usual i do the pre-order woohoo has every version since the 2nd season Ticket version on CD bought from Best Buy.

NYMike44 · 02-12-2025, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain King

Is there good/complete data somewhere on historical non-managerial coaches? How would you go about rating them? Would those ratings then need to have offsetting changes to player historical ratings for balance?

The ratings system isn’t necessarily that good for historical managers anyways. It’s all one rating across the board minus one extremely bad rating.

erik.ootp · 02-12-2025, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by zeroxjf

Is the macOS version finally going to be properly optimized for Apple Silicon (first released in 2020)? At this point, there’s no excuse for not offering native support. OOTP 25, for example, consumes up to 6 GB of RAM and drains significant battery life just idling, all because it’s still Intel-based and running under emulation. Thanks

We're building the Mac version for MacOS 10.15 standard architectures. That is Intel and Apple Silicon. I don't think we intended it to be emulated, if that's the case.

Lukas Berger · 02-12-2025, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NYMike44

Not really sure if this belongs in this thread, but will there ever be more accuracy in historical in terms of a real coaching staff instead of just the real manager and fictional staff? And real owners as well? I know the data availability might be tough to get 100% accuracy, but on the FHM side of things that’s how it is

Some of this is on our radar as potential improvements for the future but it's likely not something for this year.

Rain King · 02-12-2025, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by textilemonster

I'd be fine with ratings being random, because then at least it means they're THERE and can be modded, etc.

Random ratings for who? What is the source that these coaches would come from?

Lukas Berger · 02-12-2025, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RevanFan

Wish the ratings in the new ratings engine were not capped at 550, though. That was a disappointment for me from 25.

They go to 600 this year

twins_34 · 02-12-2025, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Irrelevant Dude

It's probably just me, but the draft changes worry me a bit. I enjoy the draft process, but I don't want it to turn into recruiting where I have to micromanage player relationships to get players to sign.

Like everything new (aka development lab), options will probably be able to be disabled.

jjw · 02-12-2025, 04:39 PM

The improvements for OOTP26 all sound great, the Drive for the Pennant being extended to historic seasons is very welcome, but the game still lacks authenticity wrt past seasons, particularly from the deadball era (let alone the 19th century). The problems here are obvious, and it is mainly all about the play by play narrative/commentary.
For one, there were no radio broadcasts of games until the 1930s, so how can you simulate pbp description that does not try to emulate a ‘radio style’ pbp?
Moreover, even if you are willing to grant the fiction of pre-1930s radio and that pbp style, the language used to describe baseball games, the events and players, has changed significantly over time. Yet OOTP’s pbp description is the same regardless of the season, and that detracts a lot from the ‘look and feel’ for users when playing past seasons. The basic solution is also plain enough: have era-based pbp, perhaps varying it by decade. And definitely use historic newspaper accounts of games for the language in pre-radio years pbp.
But there is yet another ‘realistic baseball history’ challenge: the kinds of in-game events that are common today, like the so-called ‘checked swing’ appeal plays (by home plate ump to base ump) on called balls, simply did not occur prior to the 1960s, and were not at all common until the 1970s-80s (I dare you to watch or listen to a World Series game from even the 1960s and find a single appeal! (MLB did not even add the checked swing appeal option as a ‘comment’ to rule 8.02c until the mud-1950s I think.)
Related to this, the number of umpires officiating a regular season mlb game has changed over time, from one to two (by 1912) to three (common by 1933) and finally the four we find today. Consequently, the game events and of course their description in the pbp need to take this into account (e.g., would love to see the two-umpires situation in the deadball era be captured by the pbp!).
The ability to play past seasons with historically realistic statistical results is one of OOTP’s special virtues, but until the game has historically realistic pbp the year experience of past season play is seriously compromised.

Will Beh · 02-12-2025, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by twins_34

Like everything new (aka development lab), options will probably be able to be disabled.

Yep, we like to keep the game as customizable as possible, so there is indeed a setting to completely disable the draft combine if desired

rjl518 · 02-12-2025, 06:54 PM

Even though i don't play OOTP as much as I used to, i can still guarantee this every single year:

PRE-ORDERED!!!

eMLBCommish · 02-12-2025, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

Not at the moment, no. For now we are mapping the main (and potentially secondary) scoreboard of parks. For each there's a selection of data that we could display that updates as you play.

Would the scoreboard in the Green Monster be working in this situation?

Curve Ball Dave · 02-12-2025, 07:01 PM

Of course I've pre-ordered. I'm an OOTP addict and proud of it.

02-12-2025, 01:46 PM	#41
jhcardinals Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 41	Will buy the game of course as usual, but adding more to a mechanic of the game that barely worked as intended in the first place as the main feature is pretty disappointing. The draft combine is a farce in real life and is just out of place. Somewhat excited about the pipeline, but concerned it’s just going to be a repackaged mock draft page. I suppose a roster update is better than a non-release like FM. No online league improvements, but I suppose I should just be happy it’s likely still supported. Apple improvements thirded. After Com2Us and the destructive league from the country east of China update, sim community isn’t really getting a better game from 5 years ago. Last edited by jhcardinals; 02-12-2025 at 02:35 PM. Reason: Fixed censored league, between *

02-12-2025, 02:17 PM	#46
RevanFan Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 33	March 14th is my birthday, funny enough. And 10 days before it, the Chinese DLC for Age of Mythology releases and Daredevil: Born Again comes out. Gonna be a good couple weeks around my birthday haha. Excited for OOTP 26. Though there's still quite a few things I think the game is missing for it to be perfect in my mind, I'm looking forward to an expansion of player development. Wish the ratings in the new ratings engine were not capped at 550, though. That was a disappointment for me from 25. Last edited by RevanFan; 02-12-2025 at 02:19 PM.

02-12-2025, 02:34 PM	#48
vxm Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 40	Splits Has anything been done to improve left/right splits?

02-12-2025, 06:54 PM	#58
rjl518 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Born in Shea Stadium, lives in LoanDepot Park. Posts: 6,242	Even though i don't play OOTP as much as I used to, i can still guarantee this every single year: PRE-ORDERED!!! __________________ My Threads: MLB Project 32 by SFGiants58 "Colon looking for his 1st hit of the year and he DRIVES ONE! Deep left field! Back goes Upton! Back near the wall! ITS OUTTA HERE!!! Bartolo has done it!!! THE IMPOSSIBLE HAS HAPPENED!!! This is one of the great moments in the history of baseball! Bartolo Colon has gone deep!" ---Gary Cohen. (May 7, 2016) (Petco Park) NYM 6 @ SD 3

02-12-2025, 07:01 PM	#60
Curve Ball Dave Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,329	Of course I've pre-ordered. I'm an OOTP addict and proud of it. __________________ "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.

02-12-2025, 01:51 PM	#43
bbvern Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 18	I'm awaiting the Steam version for this year. It looks good.

02-12-2025, 03:21 PM	#49
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,037	as usual i do the pre-order woohoo has every version since the 2nd season Ticket version on CD bought from Best Buy.

02-12-2025, 04:39 PM	#56
jjw Bat Boy Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 15	The improvements for OOTP26 all sound great, the Drive for the Pennant being extended to historic seasons is very welcome, but the game still lacks authenticity wrt past seasons, particularly from the deadball era (let alone the 19th century). The problems here are obvious, and it is mainly all about the play by play narrative/commentary. For one, there were no radio broadcasts of games until the 1930s, so how can you simulate pbp description that does not try to emulate a ‘radio style’ pbp? Moreover, even if you are willing to grant the fiction of pre-1930s radio and that pbp style, the language used to describe baseball games, the events and players, has changed significantly over time. Yet OOTP’s pbp description is the same regardless of the season, and that detracts a lot from the ‘look and feel’ for users when playing past seasons. The basic solution is also plain enough: have era-based pbp, perhaps varying it by decade. And definitely use historic newspaper accounts of games for the language in pre-radio years pbp. But there is yet another ‘realistic baseball history’ challenge: the kinds of in-game events that are common today, like the so-called ‘checked swing’ appeal plays (by home plate ump to base ump) on called balls, simply did not occur prior to the 1960s, and were not at all common until the 1970s-80s (I dare you to watch or listen to a World Series game from even the 1960s and find a single appeal! (MLB did not even add the checked swing appeal option as a ‘comment’ to rule 8.02c until the mud-1950s I think.) Related to this, the number of umpires officiating a regular season mlb game has changed over time, from one to two (by 1912) to three (common by 1933) and finally the four we find today. Consequently, the game events and of course their description in the pbp need to take this into account (e.g., would love to see the two-umpires situation in the deadball era be captured by the pbp!). The ability to play past seasons with historically realistic statistical results is one of OOTP’s special virtues, but until the game has historically realistic pbp the year experience of past season play is seriously compromised.