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Old 04-09-2025, 09:36 AM   #1
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Are Reds and Red Stockings same team per chemistry

I was playing around with the idea of putting together a Reds theme team, to see how much chemistry helps. I notice that some years the Reds are listed as the Red Stockings (1889, 1956, 1959) rather than the Reds. Are these equivalent for Chemistry calculations?
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Old 04-09-2025, 11:05 AM   #2
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They weren't in previous versions. Maybe they are in PT26. Check Team Chemistry and see if "Same Team" is listed as a chemistry bonus between the two, although this means you'll have to own a Red Stockings card to find out.
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Old 04-09-2025, 12:57 PM   #3
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you can look in the card list export and check the "franchise" field to see what counts for that
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Old 04-09-2025, 02:09 PM   #4
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Unlikely

The 1880's Red Stockings were the Cincinnati version who relocated to Boston where they would have more opponents within a reasonable travel radius and eventually became the Boston Red Stockings. Per MLB.com:

"The 1870 team was nearly as good, but payroll escalated and a bit of the luster wore off, so the club ended the professional experiment after two seasons. With the Cincinnati team dissolved, stars Harry and George Wright, Cal McVey and Charlie Gould headed to Boston to play for the new Boston Red Stockings in 1871. That ball club became the longest continuing team in American sports – not the Boston Red Sox, but the Boston Braves, now playing in Atlanta.

Cincinnati fielded another Red Stockings team in 1875. The following year they were inaugural members of the National League. In 1880, the league adopted stricter rules that prohibited playing games on Sundays and selling beer – two things the Red Stockings needed to appeal to the city’s many German fans. The team refused to abide by the new rules and were expelled from the National League at the end of the season.

A new Cincinnati Red Stockings team won the league’s first championship title in 1882 with a .688 winning percentage, still the highest in club history. The Red Stockings rejoined the National League in 1890 (the American Association folded the next year), accompanied by a name change to the Cincinnati Reds."

Most baseball sites consider the current Reds franchise a continuation of the organization founded in 1882. I hope this helps. The article on the mlb web site is when-did-cincinnati-reds-start-teams-complicated-history and was posted 3/29/23.
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Old 04-09-2025, 06:39 PM   #5
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The 1889 one being different didn't bother me as much as the 1950s players showing up as Redlegs instead of Reds.
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Old 04-10-2025, 08:54 AM   #6
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That was

because of Senator Joe McCarthy. Nobody wanted to be seen as a Red back then.
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